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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 25, 2019 14:23:24 GMT
I think DAI might have been an attempt at it... If that is what Bioware thinks they were or did ...
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Post by masterwarderz on Jun 25, 2019 14:40:23 GMT
Could they still make stuff like the old days? There's been quite a while and they are living pretty much on past successes now. Honestly, I don't know. I think DAI might have been an attempt at it... I don't even want to imagine what modern BioWare would attempt to market as "KOTOR III" for example.
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Post by Iakus on Jun 25, 2019 15:04:26 GMT
Honestly, I don't know. I think DAI might have been an attempt at it... I don't even want to imagine what modern BioWare would attempt to market as "KOTOR III" for example.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jun 25, 2019 15:11:29 GMT
I don't even want to imagine what modern BioWare would attempt to market as "KOTOR III" for example. Yeah they have already said that is Kotor 3.
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Post by masterwarderz on Jun 25, 2019 16:52:27 GMT
I don't even want to imagine what modern BioWare would attempt to market as "KOTOR III" for example. That was what they were hoping would be KOTOR III I suppose.
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Post by tatann on Jun 25, 2019 17:02:53 GMT
That was what they were hoping would be KOTOR III I suppose. It is MMKOTOR (Massively Multiple Knights Of The Old Republic)
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Post by masterwarderz on Jun 25, 2019 17:57:57 GMT
That was what they were hoping would be KOTOR III I suppose. It is MMKOTOR (Massively Multiple Knights Of The Old Republic) I don't find the jest particularly amusing, apologies, I was hoping for another KOTOR for a long time but now I don't even trust the studio with it to be honest.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 25, 2019 17:59:07 GMT
It is MMKOTOR (Massively Multiple Knights Of The Old Republic) I don't find the jest particularly amusing, apologies, I was hoping for another KOTOR for a long time but now I don't even trust the studio with it to be honest. Let Larian do it
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Post by masterwarderz on Jun 25, 2019 18:00:12 GMT
I don't find the jest particularly amusing, apologies, I was hoping for another KOTOR for a long time but now I don't even trust the studio with it to be honest. Let Larian do it If they don't ruin BG anymore then it already has been with the remake...we will see. I will be watching them, you can bet on that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 25, 2019 18:02:23 GMT
Let Larian do it If they don't ruin BG anymore then it already has been with the remake...we will see. I will be watching them, you can bet on that. Not particularly fond of Larian's writing, but I've seen Bioware do worse. I've seen Bioware do better, but I've seen them do worse, as well.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 25, 2019 18:10:12 GMT
The style of DOS2 is VERY different from Bioware's style (only Larian game I've played besides the 3D predecessor Divinity II that I don't recall well but liked well enough). I don't consider Larian to have worse writers. It's just something completely different than Mass Effect and Dragon Age. DOS2 i not serious at all. It's just great goofy fun where killing everyone is hilarious and you don't even feel bad about any of it.
All I know is that DOS2 is everything that MEA and Anthem are not. A polished high quality game.
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Post by goishen on Jun 25, 2019 19:52:52 GMT
Well, it's kind'a difficult to write a D&D game without the IP. Or you can, get ass sued off and have it taken down by either the FBI, the ATF, or a combo of those. But you can do it.
I am truthfully hating the acronym DMCA right now, because it's like a message from god, to most people. And god spoketh, and he said, "DMCA, ye shall taketh that shit down..."
What I would do, if I worked at WotC is make something like they did with DOS2, the creation tool. Make a logic engine that would observe all of the rules of D&D, put it out there free to play. Then start selling tiles (or pieces of the ground, buildings, etc) at microtransaction level.
Fuck, I don't even play D&D anymore, and I'm here giving them ideas. Either that, or that's what they hope to start doing with BG3 and Larian Studios.
*shrug*
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 25, 2019 19:58:29 GMT
I don't even want to imagine what modern BioWare would attempt to market as "KOTOR III" for example. She talks about SW:TOR since the 5th minute and the rest is obviously about EA's deception in general
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 25, 2019 20:34:04 GMT
EA is the least of Bioware problems, if the real issue with the game was the micro-transactions and loot boxes then yes, but it's far from that.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 25, 2019 22:24:04 GMT
Anthem didn't flop. It was met with surprise disinterest.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jun 26, 2019 5:15:22 GMT
Ikr?
Sometimes I don't want to make the same general rant every several pages and focus on 1 aspect.
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Post by tatann on Jun 26, 2019 5:32:55 GMT
Anthem didn't flop. It was met with surprise disinterest. Surprise mechanics seem to be the goal for EA, so... achievement ?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 26, 2019 12:40:47 GMT
Anthem didn't flop. It was met with surprise disinterest. And the people that left the game didn't drop it, it was surprise disengagement.
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Post by Superhik on Jun 26, 2019 17:03:00 GMT
Andrew Wilson also talked about how “Bioware has to evolve” because of the growing audience of gamers who see Bioware games diferently than before. Some only know Bioware from a game like Anthem while others know them for a completly different kind of game. “The teams at Bioware will continue to come to work every day and listen to their players old and new and seek to deliver on the promises they’ve made to those players. That’s what you’re seeing with Anthem today.”
Didn't they already had that with ME3? Classic story driven SP, then follow up with Multiplayer that a lot of players will jump in ( because of emotional investment into conflict/setting). And from what I hear, they made a ton of money from it. Bioware chasing other trends instead of improving what they were succesfull at it. And there is little competition in "AAA" who do anything similar.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 26, 2019 18:01:46 GMT
And from what I hear, they made a ton of money from it. But it didn't make them ALL of the money. It didn't bring in a billion dollars, like FIFA and MADDEN do. So they need to find new ways to bring in that amount of money, in order to maintain margins and growth.
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Post by PillarBiter on Jun 27, 2019 7:01:02 GMT
Uip. Read tht too. Major nerf (unless you have 400% boost... really?). I expect backlash. Also, i just read that nba2k19 has loading acreens with ads that you can’t skip even when done loading. Is this really the sad future we’re moving towards? I half expect to fly around with an obligated dunkin’ donuts decal on my colossus within this and 6 months.
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Post by Sartoz on Jun 27, 2019 10:53:58 GMT
Uip. Read tht too. Major nerf (unless you have 400% boost... really?). I expect backlash. Also, i just read that nba2k19 has loading acreens with ads that you can’t skip even when done loading. Is this really the sad future we’re moving towards? I half expect to fly around with an obligated dunkin’ donuts decal on my colossus within this and 6 months.
If true, I'm immediately not interested in any game that shows me ads. I can see loading screens becoming de rigueur to show them. I think Sony recently patented a system to minimize loading screens when transferring from one area to another. Sony is going about it the right way.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 27, 2019 12:02:53 GMT
Uip. Read tht too. Major nerf (unless you have 400% boost... really?). I expect backlash. Also, i just read that nba2k19 has loading acreens with ads that you can’t skip even when done loading. Is this really the sad future we’re moving towards? I half expect to fly around with an obligated dunkin’ donuts decal on my colossus within this and 6 months. So that is the real reason for the loading screens in Anthem...
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Post by tatann on Jun 27, 2019 12:38:32 GMT
Uip. Read tht too. Major nerf (unless you have 400% boost... really?). I expect backlash. Also, i just read that nba2k19 has loading acreens with ads that you can’t skip even when done loading. Is this really the sad future we’re moving towards? I half expect to fly around with an obligated dunkin’ donuts decal on my colossus within this and 6 months. So that is the real reason for the loading screens in Anthem... No, incompetence is not the same as greed
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