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Post by shinobiwan on Sept 3, 2019 19:32:43 GMT
Eh....even with these numbers...i'm going to ask the question. Isn't Anthem actually better now? No, not really. There’s slightly more of the bad content that was previously there, and the loot is ever-so-slightly improved in terms of drop rates, but the drops are still pretty bad and the core system is still totally broken. I tried the Cataclysm and provided my write up a few pages back in this thread. Copied below in case you don’t want to dig. I reinstalled and popped in briefly to try it out because why not, I’m basically just waiting for Borderlands 3. My experience: - Disconnected when trying to load from the title menu. Off to a good start. - Inexplicably, they put the story NPC behind a separate load screen in fort tarsis. Guess they haven’t learned their lesson. Two loads per attempt to talk to this guy (one for fort tarsis itself, another for the prison area). Unbelievable. Load times are still very long. - Tried to matchmake for the first story mission. It put me in the Cataclysm instead. Session was not full on Ps4, east coast prime time. - Spawned into a hazard zone in a timed mission, and it immediately throws a wall of text at you with a button prompt to remove it. Obviously, I did not read it. Couldn’t you have put these instructions in the two minute loading screen instead? I guess they needed that space for lore blurbs filled with typos. - GM2 cataclysm. Enemies are easier than ever, but have no idea what the fuck to do. Neither do my teammates. We spend 20 minutes wandering around aimlessly and dying in the blue shit, end with a handful of crystals. - Did the story missions. Fewer egregiously bad moments (“get glitched,” big bad dying by being hit by a car), but still generally bad story full of undefined and unexplained Proper Nouns (I still don’t know what the fuck a Cenotaph is, and they’ve been talking about it all game). No real improvement over the base campaign, don’t expect a BioWare Story (TM) here. - Did a few more Cataclysm runs. Drops are marginally better but still not good, and the inscription system is still garbage. Once I figured out what to do, Catacylsm is the same old shit just on a timer. Got repetitive and boring fast. - Bought some war chests, got items predominantly for javelins I don’t play. - Uninstalled. Tl;dr - Catacylsm is more of the same. Don’t let the rigor mortis spasm fool you - this game is still dead. Doubt I’ll even bother reinstalling for the next update, if any.
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Post by Lazarillo on Sept 3, 2019 19:48:44 GMT
Funny, this was exactly the sentiment of the BF2 community when they heard the announcement I mean, it was also the sentiment of SWTOR players when Ben Irving got put on the project.
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Post by saandrig on Sept 4, 2019 7:04:40 GMT
Funny, this was exactly the sentiment of the BF2 community when they heard the announcement I mean, it was also the sentiment of SWTOR players when Ben Irving got put on the project. Tiny difference though. In the Ben Irving case the sympathies were toward the Anthem fanbase. In the current case, the sympathies are for the poor schmuck who gets the manager job. According to the BF2 community - the Anthem fanbase are brutal lunatics who will jump on the poor communication guy like hungry sharks on a baby seal.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 4, 2019 12:33:45 GMT
Funny, this was exactly the sentiment of the BF2 community when they heard the announcement Hardened veterans would shy away from that prospect, let alone an apprentice. I guess it was a mandatory "promotion". According to the BF2 community - the Anthem fanbase are brutal lunatics who will jump on the poor communication guy like hungry sharks on a baby seal. If Bioware had communicated with its fanbase better than it did, they wouldn't be like hungry sharks right now. And while that's not the apprentice's fault, it is, now, his job to manage it. It is doable? Possibly. Is it easy? No. Will it change anything in regards to Anthem? Highly unlikely. Actual content and activities didn't, so I doubt he will be enough alone. And visiting the anthem subreddit, it seems most of the dissenters have abandoned Anthem and its community for greener pastures, leaving behind ... 85 people? Nah, it's 1.2k people online on the subreddit right now. I don't know if they're all there for the same reason, though.
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Post by tatann on Sept 6, 2019 11:06:05 GMT
So still no numbers (player base, number of devs working full time on the game, just "big team"), talk about transparency I've read the same BS from Frontier on Elite Dangerous, which was also supposed to be a 10 year plan game
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 6, 2019 12:01:45 GMT
So still no numbers (player base, number of devs working full time on the game, just "big team"), talk about transparency I've read the same BS from Frontier on Elite Dangerous, which was also supposed to be a 10 year plan game ED has a pretty stable userbase. Despite the shitty engineer crap.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 12:06:59 GMT
Anthem
"We have plans for those fundamental improvements"
That's great, Casey. It only took you six months to come up with a plan to fix what shouldn't have been broken on release. A plan. As in "we've yet to start materializing anything".
"I believe in Anthem and would love to see its world grow, evolve and thrive for years to come"
Sure, Casey. You'd love to see it. Which means you are just as likely not to see it.
SW:ToR
"Onslaught is coming this fall"
We already are in fall, Casey. Fall ends in 2 months. You can't commit to a release date 2 months before your self imposed deadline? That update should be going up on a PTS right now.
Other Stuff
"Indeed the Dread Wolf Rises"
In 2 years from now at the earliest. At least 7 years after DA:I. This is a very bad business plan. And you've already lost two producers from that project. Furthermore, here's screenrant to push the company line, like clockwork. Casey, we've seen this play before. It ends in youtube meme videos.
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Post by tatann on Sept 6, 2019 12:21:06 GMT
So still no numbers (player base, number of devs working full time on the game, just "big team"), talk about transparency I've read the same BS from Frontier on Elite Dangerous, which was also supposed to be a 10 year plan game ED has a pretty stable userbase. Despite the shitty engineer crap. I was talking about the big team supposed to work on ED (in fact working on theme park game) while the game had about the content of Star Citizen alpha (at the time), just randomly copy-pasted But RNGineers was the end of it for me, indeed
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 6, 2019 12:24:47 GMT
Around here, fall starts September 21 and ends December 21. Other than that, carry on.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 6, 2019 12:50:36 GMT
ED has a pretty stable userbase. Despite the shitty engineer crap. I was talking about the big team supposed to work on ED (in fact working on theme park game) while the game had about the content of Star Citizen alpha (at the time), just randomly copy-pasted But RNGineers was the end of it for me, indeed ah, that one. I think PR likes to mention peak personnel at some point and make it look like a massive staff is at it continuously.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 13:11:01 GMT
Around here, fall starts September 21 and ends December 21. Other than that, carry on. Imagine them releasing the update on December 21st then.
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Post by PillarBiter on Sept 6, 2019 13:19:32 GMT
Around here, fall starts September 21 and ends December 21. Other than that, carry on. Imagine them releasing the update on December 21st then. Technically still correct. And let's face it. That's still the best kind of correct.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 6, 2019 13:27:30 GMT
Around here, fall starts September 21 and ends December 21. Other than that, carry on. Imagine them releasing the update on December 21st then. Actually Onslaught has a release date of October 22 I think. And it’s on pts. Been there for a while. I’m not to thrilled with some of the changes though.
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Post by saandrig on Sept 6, 2019 13:37:07 GMT
Imagine them releasing the update on December 21st then. Actually Onslaught has a release date of October 22 I think. And it’s on pts. Been there for a while. I’m not to thrilled with some of the changes though. They at least try... Although for an expansion that we waited 3 years for, one would expect it's at least 3 times bigger than what they will give. This is barely Makeb type and Makeb needed what? Six months?
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 6, 2019 13:49:54 GMT
Actually Onslaught has a release date of October 22 I think. And it’s on pts. Been there for a while. I’m not to thrilled with some of the changes though. They at least try... Although for an expansion that we waited 3 years for, one would expect it's at least 3 times bigger than what they will give. This is barely Makeb type and Makeb needed what? Six months? I haven’t seen any of the new content. It’s that small? Doesn’t surprise me I guess. I’ve been reading up on the crafting and gear changes.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 13:51:37 GMT
Technically still correct. And let's face it. That's still the best kind of correct. I get the Futurama reference, PillarBiter, but that's also kind of a (non) delay. The same way Anthem's rescheduled release was a (non) delay. And from what I gather, the ToR people have been waiting on that for quite a while now. Maybe, since it coincides with X-Mas/Hanuka/Kwanzaz its a good time to release it, but this non committal stance from Bioware, just like with Anthem, does not inspire confidence on the delivery. And, like I've said many times before, fuck me, I'm a nobody. But what about your playerbase? You've left them waiting for an update, either for ToR, or for Anthem, you remain vague one thing, when you should be specific by now and on the other, where you should at least be vague, you say something ambiguous. You're one step behind of what you should normally be, Bioware. Which is changing from a pattern to a tradition, at this point. No, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 13:54:43 GMT
Actually Onslaught has a release date of October 22 I think. And it’s on pts. Been there for a while. I’m not to thrilled with some of the changes though. Well, see that is some information that is too valuable to be omitted. This is important. Why not put that up there, Casey? This is info that helps promote the development team's work and and emphasizes their punctuality. Why leave it out?
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Post by shinobiwan on Sept 6, 2019 14:03:28 GMT
Actually Onslaught has a release date of October 22 I think. And it’s on pts. Been there for a while. I’m not to thrilled with some of the changes though. Well, see that is some information that is too valuable to be omitted. This is important. Why not put that up there, Casey? This is info that helps promote the development team's work and and emphasizes their punctuality. Why leave it out? Honestly, there is nothing they can say that would make be give a shit at this point. They’ve proven incapable of making decent games. Until they actually deliver something good, they can write all the vague or even detailed blog posts they want, I don’t care.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 6, 2019 14:06:04 GMT
Well, see that is some information that is too valuable to be omitted. This is important. Why not put that up there, Casey? This is info that helps promote the development team's work and and emphasizes their punctuality. Why leave it out? Honestly, there is nothing they can say that would make be give a shit at this point. They’ve proven incapable of making decent games. Until they actually deliver something good, they can write all the vague or even detailed blog posts they want, I don’t care. I agree, I have no interest in Anthem, and I only came back to swtor a few months ago so the existing content was new to me.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 14:18:57 GMT
Honestly, there is nothing they can say that would make be give a shit at this point. They’ve proven incapable of making decent games. Until they actually deliver something good, they can write all the vague or even detailed blog posts they want, I don’t care. I agree, I have no interest in Anthem, and I only came back to swtor a few months ago so the existing content was new to me. I get it, I really do. They've proven their incompetence, their failures are plain for everyone to see. In spite of some people here saying it's only true for Anthem, Bioware's problems started way before any of that. But if Casey is committed to turning things around, if he wants people to actually see Bioware in a positive light, if he wants the public eye to ditch the scrutiny with which it is currently viewing the company he is trying to run right now, he needs to go big. He needs to erase doubts and all shadows of them. Yet he displays further insecurity and perpetuation of past practices that led to Andromeda, that led to Anthem. And now, he also forgets to mention the release date of an expansion to a game that, according to Space Cowboy, its community has been waiting for, for 3 years now. Why leave it out? What are you afraid of? I don't know. I guess I'm just unreasonable, but this is not how I would have handled this situation.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Sept 6, 2019 15:50:29 GMT
Honestly, there is nothing they can say that would make be give a shit at this point. They’ve proven incapable of making decent games. Until they actually deliver something good, they can write all the vague or even detailed blog posts they want, I don’t care. I agree, I have no interest in Anthem, and I only came back to swtor a few months ago so the existing content was new to me. I get it, I really do. They've proven their incompetence, their failures are plain for everyone to see. In spite of some people here saying it's only true for Anthem, Bioware's problems started way before any of that. But if Casey is committed to turning things around, if he wants people to actually see Bioware in a positive light, if he wants the public eye to ditch the scrutiny with which it is currently viewing the company he is trying to run right now, he needs to go big. He needs to erase doubts and all shadows of them. Yet he displays further insecurity and perpetuation of past practices that led to Andromeda, that led to Anthem. And now, he also forgets to mention the release date of an expansion to a game that, according to Space Cowboy, its community has been waiting for, for 3 years now. Why leave it out? What are you afraid of? I don't know. I guess I'm just unreasonable, but this is not how I would have handled this situation. I agree with your points. He might be vague on the release date because it already slid once, and might slide again.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Sept 6, 2019 15:55:14 GMT
He might be vague on the release date because it already slid once, and might slide again That would be bad. It will be bad and it will look worse. If this is the reason for Casey being vague ... oof. Oof!
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Post by linksocarina on Sept 7, 2019 1:03:09 GMT
He might be vague on the release date because it already slid once, and might slide again That would be bad. It will be bad and it will look worse. If this is the reason for Casey being vague ... oof. Oof! Honestly, I don't think it will matter whatever they do at this point, going big or keeping quiet and stealthing a release, because folks are going to be perturbed anyway. They are going to do what they think is best for them it seems, and folks are going to be polarized regardless of what actions are taken unless they invent the greatest thing since sliced bread - so the fans of sliced bread can bitch at them for what they did. Frankly id respect BioWare a lot more if they just said "its finished when we say so" or something to that effect, but that won't happen in this case mostly because of the PR with EA.
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Post by Spectr61 on Sept 8, 2019 6:45:29 GMT
Honestly, there is nothing they can say that would make be give a shit at this point. They’ve proven incapable of making decent games. Until they actually deliver something good, they can write all the vague or even detailed blog posts they want, I don’t care. I agree, I have no interest in Anthem, and I only came back to swtor a few months ago so the existing content was new to me. I get it, I really do. They've proven their incompetence, their failures are plain for everyone to see. In spite of some people here saying it's only true for Anthem, Bioware's problems started way before any of that. But if Casey is committed to turning things around, if he wants people to actually see Bioware in a positive light, if he wants the public eye to ditch the scrutiny with which it is currently viewing the company he is trying to run right now, he needs to go big. He needs to erase doubts and all shadows of them. Yet he displays further insecurity and perpetuation of past practices that led to Andromeda, that led to Anthem. And now, he also forgets to mention the release date of an expansion to a game that, according to Space Cowboy , its community has been waiting for, for 3 years now. Why leave it out? What are you afraid of? I don't know. I guess I'm just unreasonable, but this is not how I would have handled this situation. Some people don't seem to get that Casey is the problem. The whole Biower mess reached its crescendo with the ME3 endings fiasco. Casey in the lead. Help from super Mac. (Mac still at Blower, lead on Andromeda, know how that turned out) Casey Had to leave Blower, went to Microsoft, got his head "right", came back to Blower. Expecting different from those who are responsible for the mess in the first place is madness. Also, think Casey and Mac could have an interesting conversation about dashed expectations with the showrunners Beniott and Weiss from Game of Thrones? "C&M, We had it all going so good, then screwed the pooch at the very end. B&W, Dammit, us too. C&M, We had to issue an apology and redo some of our ending after the firestorm, we called it an extended cut. B&W, We couldn't do that after the finale, we just hid. C, yeah, Me too. BTW, who are your therapists?"
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