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Post by Iakus on Aug 29, 2019 4:09:08 GMT
Maybe the show is about Falcon making good use of the shield and Cap's legacy, but ultimately finding it appropriate to pass it to Bucky, who takes it on himself to become Captain America with more gusto. I don't think either should be Captain America. They have their own identities and histories and styles. They shouldn't feel obligated to become someone else. Not even Steve Rogers.
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Post by Sifr on Aug 29, 2019 4:47:47 GMT
Bucky becoming the next Captain America would be more appropriate.
He could take up the mantle to atone for the decades of crimes he committed as the Winter Soldier while under Hydra control. More importantly, the Shield would serve as the perfect "hair-shirt" to remind him of what he needs to make up for, as he killed the man who made it.
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Post by Iakus on Aug 29, 2019 16:11:39 GMT
Bucky becoming the next Captain America would be more appropriate. He could take up the mantle to atone for the decades of crimes he committed as the Winter Soldier while under Hydra control. More importantly, the Shield would serve as the perfect "hair-shirt" to remind him of what he needs to make up for, as he killed the man who made it. Taking up the shield is one thing. The name is something else.
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Post by Lavochkin on Sept 1, 2019 1:56:05 GMT
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 3, 2019 14:33:37 GMT
Yay! She-Hulk! (don't know why they didn't do a She-Hulk movie instead of a movie about Captain Bitchface, sorry, I mean Captain Marvel). Ms Marvel I don't know about. And Moon Knight is going to be hard to do a family friendly movie for. Kinda like doing a family friendly movie for Blade... First off, it's technically inaccurate to assume Marvel is "family-friendly." Every movie released is PG-13, often for the usage of strong language and some surprisingly gruesome deaths at many points. Even Marvel in TV (not counting the now cancelled Netflix shows) are aimed more towards older audiences. I get what you mean though, that Moon Knight and Blade seem like ideas that deserve a more R-rated approach, but I do think it's theoretically possible to do both Blade and Moon Knight in a PG-13/TV-14 rating. I mean, Disney+'s Star Wars Mandalorian series looks like it's going to be BRUTAL! Anyway, out of these three, Ms. Marvel's the one I'm most excited for. She's my second favorite Marvel hero, next to Spider-Man. I guess it's mainly because I'm more interested in younger heroes with more small-scale stakes and an embracement of the weird, but I understand if that's not your cup of tea. Besides, with Spidey unfortunately out of the MCU, Ms. Marvel should hopefully be a worthy substitute.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 3, 2019 18:28:15 GMT
I don't see why Disney wouldn't make Moon Knight or Blade R-rated, after they promised they'll keep that rating for Deadpool. I get it, it could be an empty promise, but for now, one can hope they'll keep it.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 3, 2019 19:23:11 GMT
I don't see why Disney wouldn't make Moon Knight or Blade R-rated, after they promised they'll keep that rating for Deadpool. I get it, it could be an empty promise, but for now, one can hope they'll keep it. And we all know Disney does justice to the characters they acquire and takes real good care of them
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 3, 2019 19:55:44 GMT
I don't see why Disney wouldn't make Moon Knight or Blade R-rated, after they promised they'll keep that rating for Deadpool. I get it, it could be an empty promise, but for now, one can hope they'll keep it. And we all know Disney does justice to the characters they acquire and takes real good care of them Shhhh, let me stay in denial
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Post by DomeWing333 on Sept 3, 2019 20:36:29 GMT
It's not about character integrity; it's about money.
Disney is aiming to directly compete with Netflix with its Disney+ service. And they've seen how well grittier, more violent shows like Daredevil and Jessica Jones have done with the Netflix audience. That's why they went after an oddball character like Moon Knight in the first place: because that's what fans of shows like Daredevil and Jessica Jones were clamoring for. They want to attract that audience. And they know that if they don't provide a comparable level of brutality that those fans were used to with Netflix, people aren't going to jump ship and Netflix will be able to keep that corner of the market all to itself.
Disney's not one to leave money on the table.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 3, 2019 21:57:58 GMT
I don't see why Disney wouldn't make Moon Knight or Blade R-rated, after they promised they'll keep that rating for Deadpool. I get it, it could be an empty promise, but for now, one can hope they'll keep it. They did re release Deadpool 2 as a 12A film.
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 8, 2019 11:11:43 GMT
Original vs disturbing edit at 12:38.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 15, 2019 2:22:36 GMT
Same, but Denzel would do better as Blue Marvel.
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Post by House Targaryen on Sept 15, 2019 4:46:54 GMT
Don't recall any black Jews in concentration camps during WW2.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 15, 2019 17:04:08 GMT
Don't recall any black Jews in concentration camps during WW2. Who says there weren't? Also considering Hitler's views of a "perfect" race did not include any black people, I can assume there were either extermination camps or just outright slaughter of Black Europeans.
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 16, 2019 4:14:12 GMT
Screencap this. There'll be a reboot of Roots where Kunta Kinte is an indigenous tribesman because they were enslaved too.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2019 11:45:12 GMT
Same, but Denzel would do better as Blue Marvel. Now I cannot unsee it. He'd be perfect Blue Marvel.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 16, 2019 19:17:30 GMT
So here's an interesting question that I think deserves discussion:
When and how do you guys think the Marvel Cinematic Universe will end?
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Post by aglomeracja on Sept 16, 2019 21:07:14 GMT
Don't recall any black Jews in concentration camps during WW2. Who says there weren't? Also considering Hitler's views of a "perfect" race did not include any black people, I can assume there were either extermination camps or just outright slaughter of Black Europeans. Who says there weren't "black Jews" in concentration camps during WW2? Black and Jewish and in Europe in 1940's? I dare say there might not have been a single one person like that.
As for the "regular" black people, there were still very few of them in Germany and Europe in general at the time and they had it relatively easy under Nazi regime.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 16, 2019 23:23:54 GMT
Who says there weren't? Also considering Hitler's views of a "perfect" race did not include any black people, I can assume there were either extermination camps or just outright slaughter of Black Europeans. Who says there weren't "black Jews" in concentration camps during WW2? Black and Jewish and in Europe in 1940's? I dare say there might not have been a single one person like that.
As for the "regular" black people, there were still very few of them in Germany and Europe in general at the time and they had it relatively easy under Nazi regime.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blacks-during-the-holocaust-era
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Post by Hier0phant on Sept 17, 2019 3:32:36 GMT
Who says there weren't "black Jews" in concentration camps during WW2? Black and Jewish and in Europe in 1940's? I dare say there might not have been a single one person like that.
As for the "regular" black people, there were still very few of them in Germany and Europe in general at the time and they had it relatively easy under Nazi regime.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blacks-during-the-holocaust-eraAuschwitz the concentration camp in question, is integral to Magneto's mythos and making him a black German in the MCU would require rewriting because the prisoners of the camp were primarily Slavs, Romani and Jews. Having a super powered being imprisoned at the camp is already pushing it but racebending the character will court unneeded controversy, and will be used by anti semites to obfuscate and detract from the persecution European Jews had suffered at the hands of the Nazi party. If Disney makes him black they're better off in making the character an American.
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Post by aglomeracja on Sept 17, 2019 8:13:53 GMT
Who says there weren't "black Jews" in concentration camps during WW2? Black and Jewish and in Europe in 1940's? I dare say there might not have been a single one person like that.
As for the "regular" black people, there were still very few of them in Germany and Europe in general at the time and they had it relatively easy under Nazi regime.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/blacks-during-the-holocaust-eraYeah, yeah, there were hardly any blacks in Europe, even fewer where thrown into concentration camps (somwhere else I've read about exactly 20 known cases, and they weren't in death camps, but in labour camps), exactly 0 of them in Aushwitz and there might not have been a single Jewish black person in Europe. Basically they didn't have it any worse that other "not-aryan" people under Nazi regime.
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