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Post by Sartoz on May 10, 2018 19:47:05 GMT
Never thought it could happen.
Of course, I'm still trying to understand how solo play will evolve.... especially when he says we will have control over our own story.
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Post by Heimdall on May 10, 2018 20:14:55 GMT
Most likely, it will be just as Bioware did it in SWTOR. Each player has their own story.
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Post by themikefest on May 10, 2018 20:33:42 GMT
I wonder if I could get the platinum trophy without having to play any multiplayer or co-op?
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Post by Hrungr on May 10, 2018 20:33:57 GMT
I wonder whether you'll be able to play all the content solo, or if there's solo-specific content, and will there be missions that can only be played MP?
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Post by KaiserShep on May 10, 2018 20:47:39 GMT
Now it's just a matter of whether or not any missions have mandatory cooperation mechanics, aside from simply forcing a matchmaking session before starting. I want to be able to lone-wolf everything, and it's a bonus if I can avoid seeing other players entirely, sort of like I do in Elite Dangerous' solo play mode.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 10, 2018 20:56:13 GMT
We’ve known this since last E3 why is anyone surprised
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Post by biggydx on May 10, 2018 21:53:39 GMT
We’ve known this since last E3 why is anyone surprised Jonathan Warner was even up on stage during the E3 reveal and said you can play it alone or with friends.
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Post by Sartoz on May 10, 2018 23:00:49 GMT
There is one thing that's been running around my mind.
How has Bio managed to solve the problem of a solo story, which essentially is a Single Player Campaign, in a multiplayer game? And, from the GM, we, the solo player, can control our own story.
My experience with Bio games and their marketing speak is that the studio inevitably falls short of the generated marketing expectations.... you know, the famous "choice matters" in ME3..
Still, I'm now looking forward to more reveals in E3 Play.
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Post by Pearl on May 10, 2018 23:22:53 GMT
We’ve known this since last E3 why is anyone surprised Jonathan Warner was even up on stage during the E3 reveal and said you can play it alone or with friends. The outrage machine has no time to listen to developers talk.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on May 11, 2018 0:30:37 GMT
We’ve known this since last E3 why is anyone surprised FUD >>>>>>> Facts?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on May 11, 2018 0:31:52 GMT
I’m still sticking with my prediction that solo is just degenerate MP. Basically you play as a coop squad of 1.
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Post by Pearl on May 11, 2018 1:39:44 GMT
We’ve known this since last E3 why is anyone surprised FUD >>>>>>> Facts? Always. FUD is emotional while facts are not. Same here. It seems like the most logical solution given that we know co-op is going to be drop-in/drop-out, meaning that cooperative players are free to join or leave whenever they want (within the limitations of your session's privacy settings, that is).
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 1:54:07 GMT
Jonathan Warner was even up on stage during the E3 reveal and said you can play it alone or with friends. The outrage machine has no time to listen to developers talk. Agreed. Way too many people in the outrage machine (a nice way to put it.) In my case, I'm not able to hear or rmember every BW comment ever made by anyone associated with a particular game, so I appreciate Sartoz making the effort to 're-'announce this in a thread, and so that more widespread awareness allows many more to input their concerns in one place. It's difficult for me to keep up with all revealed knowledge that trickles out, or goes right through my ears.
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Post by xassantex on May 11, 2018 1:55:14 GMT
I’m still sticking with my prediction that solo is just degenerate MP. Basically you play as a coop squad of 1. yeah, there will probably be more content than just an ME3 Gold solo , some sort of theme , mission whatever , but will there be an evolution to a story? how could that be if you play with pugs .
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Post by mmoblitz on May 11, 2018 1:55:52 GMT
Even with SP confirmed I'm still skeptical, but will be following it closely since Hudson remarked that DA4 will use the same systems. If it turns out that they suck here then you know what's in store for DA4.
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Post by Sanunes on May 11, 2018 2:38:36 GMT
Jonathan Warner was even up on stage during the E3 reveal and said you can play it alone or with friends. The outrage machine has no time to listen to developers talk. Pretty much, if you aren't bashing EA or its plans BioWare developers just aren't worth listening to. if they say something to confirm what you are asking about, its then not enough specifics to confirm it. To me its why they pretty much ignore us now because no matter what they tried to do they were being ignored. Its the same thing when it comes to Frostbite, BioWare and other EA developers have stated that its their choice to pick Frostbite, but the internet keeps making the assertion that EA is forcing it on them and they are only saying its their choice because their masters demand that.
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Post by Hrungr on May 11, 2018 4:01:54 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike You can choose to play the story of Anthem on your own.
- "the story of Anthem" is an interesting point.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2018 5:04:57 GMT
Well I'm more interested than I have been but still the proof is in the pudding as they say.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on May 11, 2018 5:45:42 GMT
Online Solo =/= Offline SP Campaign. If a lot of content will be locked behind co-op play or microtransactions then it's pointless.
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Post by Felya87 on May 11, 2018 8:05:24 GMT
Thing is, playng solo doesn't mean single player game.
Can I put the game on pause? Scale down the difficulty? Create more save files of the same character in different places? Reload a previous save if I choose a dialogue option I didn't want (because the dialogue weel is the most annoyng thing ever)? Not having people around the map wanting to be social when just seeing them in my game is frustrating? Can I play without internet connection?
That's what I'd like to know. Playng solo for me is not enought.
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Post by coldsteelblue on May 11, 2018 8:19:46 GMT
The blog is an interesting read, I'm curious as to what it is that's 'very Dragon Age' as that could be anything, still not long to go now until we get more information.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 11, 2018 8:26:25 GMT
Maybe it's going to be some kind of mix of Farcry 5 and ME3MP.
You play a very loose story that is more like a string of sideqests to an overall "looking for X" goal. Combat is designed around co-op, so is the overall mission. You're a team setting out to find/liberate/rescue whatever. But you CAN play by yourself which might be harder but doable.
The story bits could be handled like FC5 where each player gets the same cutscenes but hopefully so that each player gets the same mission progress. Since it's supposed to be shared world I assume this to be the case.
How much actual story there will be and if any sort of choice is possible with such a framework is the big question.
Any story bits will have to be self-contained if the game is drop in/drop out. Basically: You run around exploring either by yourself or together and points of interests are like open MP maps where you engage in scripted combat scenarios. An outpost of sorts for example. Maybe the game asks you if you want to engage the target now or invite more people from your hypothetical squad. Maybe you can toggle this option for solo play.
If the game is supposed to have a 10 year lifespan, I suppose each mission will respawn so you can do it again with different groups like a ME3MP lobby only in a fluid open world environment.
If there is supposed to be an actual story with an endgame I suppose those might not respawn, only the side missions.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 11, 2018 9:21:28 GMT
There is one thing that's been running around my mind.
How has Bio managed to solve the problem of a solo story, which essentially is a Single Player Campaign, in a multiplayer game? And, from the GM, we, the solo player, can control our own story.
My experience with Bio games and their marketing speak is that the studio inevitably falls short of the generated marketing expectations.... you know, the famous "choice matters" in ME3..
Still, I'm now looking forward to more reveals in E3 Play.
You get a storyline for your character. The story will not affect the world story that much. You may see some of your actions impact the "world" but it will never be that drastic that two players would "live" in entirely different world states. That's how I imagine it'll be.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 11, 2018 10:02:30 GMT
If the game is supposed to have a 10 year lifespan, I suppose each mission will respawn so you can do it again with different groups like a ME3MP lobby only in a fluid open world environment. This maybe a stupid question but was there any connection to the main game in ME3MP like in MEAMP has? I mean I just played it 23 hours only and it was end of last year so I wasnt there in the beginning. For me this is okay if they do it in the Anthem like in MEAMP, so the MP has a real connection to the world, but I guess they want to expand on that and it has a real connection/change in YOUR SP game.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 11, 2018 11:15:35 GMT
Thing is, playng solo doesn't mean single player game. Can I put the game on pause? Scale down the difficulty? Create more save files of the same character in different places? Reload a previous save if I choose a dialogue option I didn't want (because the dialogue weel is the most annoyng thing ever)? Not having people around the map wanting to be social when just seeing them in my game is frustrating? Can I play without internet connection? That's what I'd like to know. Playng solo for me is not enought. This has never been presented as a 'single player game' even if you can play solo. I expect people will be able to create save points, but probably not in the middle of specific quest activities. I'd also expect the difficulties to be adjustable, just as you could play Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum in ME3MJP. As for a live internet connection, I think that's likely to be essential, but we'll see soon enough.
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