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Post by colfoley on Jul 25, 2018 23:16:31 GMT
So I have been discussing this issue with a few members on the forum and have been a little hesitant to bring it up, after all I think before the Old BSN closed this was quite the hot button issue. But, I am kind of curious.
So: Should the Inquisitor return? If they should then how would you include them in the game? If not then under what other circumstances can they make a 'cameo'?
Please, remember to be civil.
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As for myself I do want the Inquisitor to return. I am rather attached to my character. Either as a protagonist or just as a secondary character but either way I will be fine with it considering how Tresspasser ended.
However if they were to return my only proviso is BioWare has to come up with some way to let us import our old face into the new game rather then give us just a character creator (like they did with Hawke) or God forbid give us a brand new face. If they can't figure out how to do it I'd rather have them NOT include the Inquisitor in the game or just make her a 'letter cameo' like the Warden. It would almost be worse then not including her because it just wouldn't be her.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 25, 2018 23:39:42 GMT
You missed "dual protagonist" with a new person + some scenes where you control your Inquisitor. While I would prefer to have my Inquisitor back, I think that option has the highest chance to please the most people. You have a new protagonist who gets a new story, new experiences, etc, while also avoiding the issues with the former PC being a full NPC, as we had with Hawke.
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Post by shechinah on Jul 25, 2018 23:40:38 GMT
Interestingly, I was actually quite alright with the idea of the Inquisitor not appearing in Dragon Age 4... until Trespasser, that is. Prior to it, the Inquisitor and their associates had no knowledge of Solas' true identity nor his motives so although I would have liked to see their relationship come into play, I could see a plausible excuse for why they wouldn't be involved. Trespasser, however, not only made the Inquisitor aware of Solas' real agenda but also played up their relationship angle and set up a new dynamic to it.
While I still prefer a new protagonist because it allows for the conflict and Tevinter to be viewed through a new pair of eyes, I do want the Inquisitor to feature in some playable capacity hence why I've been a big supporter of the dual protagonist idea. I admit that might not be financially feasible and so I'm also in favor of the Inquisitor appearing as a playable character for some part of the finale where they are able to have their moment with Solas and see it through to the idea. They might not necessarily be the one to ultimately decide his fate and (and I think it would interesting if they aren't) but the very least, they should have a conversational moment with him. Once again, I cannot stress the importance of the playable angle. If it's not possible for the Inquisitor to be playable then I don't want them to appear because it's liable to turn what could be an awesome and emotional moment into… something that is neither.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jul 25, 2018 23:41:31 GMT
As a protagonist or one half of a dual-protagonist? Hard pass.
See them again? Sure. In fact, I think it might be a little weird if we don't see them again. Unless DA4 completely sidesteps the Solas story and focuses on internal Tevinter stuff or Tevinter v the Qun.
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Post by Reznore on Jul 25, 2018 23:41:35 GMT
When it comes to Solas...I feel like my Inqui should return. Played an elven male, who believed in his gods. Still do. Solas told my Inqui he will destroy the world ,Dalish included. Remember the Dalish think (like Andastrian)when they bring back their gods, they will be saved. I can't imagine my Dalish, who's been tricked by his own trickster god, will just say "ok I have better things to do now, twas no big deal". Arm or no harm. The threat is so big, the stake so personal ...it's like Cassandra not giving a damn about the Herald of Andraste business.
I went the "Save Solas" route with my Inqui, and I hate Solas. But my character wants to prove the Dalish are worth saving and the Dalish Gods are also worth saving.
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Now do I want to play a whole new game of The Inquisitor ? Nope. My pc disbanded the Inquisition so he's not the Inquisitor anymore. But some people kept their Inquisitor "Inquisitor". In a wonderful world, we could get a game where some Inquisitor rebuild a new identity for themselves, and others build up on their Inqui title...but let's get real, it'd be a massive waste of ressources. So a new character might be better. Besides , my Inqui wasn't a super fun guy, and with Trespasser things took a dramatic personal turn. I kind of want to have fun in Tevinter.
Still fun or no fun, if I'm robbed of my "true" ending with Solas, I'll be pissed.
Now how will Bioware will deal with that , well it's their can of worms.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 25, 2018 23:42:59 GMT
Interestingly, I was actually quite alright with the idea of the Inquisitor not appearing in Dragon Age 4... until Trespasser, that is. Prior to it, the Inquisitor and their associates had no knowledge of Solas' true identity nor his motives so although I would have liked to see their relationship come into play, I could see a plausible excuse for why they wouldn't be involved. Trespasser, however, not only made the Inquisitor aware of Solas' real agenda but also played up their relationship angle and set up a new dynamic to it. Very well stated.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 25, 2018 23:50:12 GMT
I like for him/her to return. But that's mostly because of AWR's voice. Anyways. The game can feature the Inquisitor getting a new arm and learning how to use it. Throughout the game investigate leads from whoever to find Solas. When in Trevinter, Dorian helps out. He could even join the Inquisitor on a few quests.
If the Inquisitor isn't the main character, he/she could be the one that hires the main character to find Solas. Throughout the game, the main character meets with the Inquisitor to give updates and receive any new information.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jul 25, 2018 23:50:32 GMT
My preferences in order:
1. Dual protagonist game where we mostly play as a new character but there are some sections where we control the Inquisitor again.
2. New protagonist.
3. The return of the Inquisitor.
For various reasons I really don't want the Inquisitor back as sole protagonist, and I think the tradition of having a new character for each DA game has been a good thing. However, I would be delighted to control them for a few missions where they get to confront Solas and somehow resolve things with him.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jul 25, 2018 23:50:56 GMT
I'm not opposed to seeing my Inquisitor return, but I don't think they should be the protagonist again.
I like the current system of a new hero each game.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 0:34:00 GMT
You missed "dual protagonist" with a new person + some scenes where you control your Inquisitor. While I would prefer to have my Inquisitor back, I think that option has the highest chance to please the most people. You have a new protagonist who gets a new story, new experiences, etc, while also avoiding the issues with the former PC being a full NPC, as we had with Hawke. I didn't mind how they handled Hawke in DAI. Only problem was the stupid character creation stuff. And I meant to imply that the Inquisitor can come back as either the dual or sole protagonists. Though it might be hinky trying to play both sides at once in a cutscene.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 0:54:39 GMT
I've made my opinion on this known before, but I will not buy Dragon Age 4 unless the Inquisitor returns as the protagonist. There is no good reason why they shouldn't. Whether that is as the sole protagonist or even a dual protagonist is fine, as long as they are a protagonist. Absolutely not a NPC though. Bioware has ruined every protagonist of mine they have brought back as a NPC and I will not see my favorite Bioware protagonist suffer that as well. I'd rather they not show up at all, as in no cameo, no references, nothing, compared to that. Like shechinah said, with the vanilla ending I would have been fine with them not returning, but Trespasser changed all of that where the Inquisitor needs to be involved. If they don't, then Trespasser has managed to do something remarkable: ruin not one but two games at once.
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Post by phoray on Jul 26, 2018 1:00:39 GMT
dual Protag wasn't listed as an option, so I can't really pick any of the above. Hawke is done. They were not marked by magic or the taint, and all my Hawkes are "fuck you" retired, thank you very much. If shit is blowing up, they'll happily run damage control in their immediate location; something they're used to after having done it for 7 years in Kirkwall
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 1:03:14 GMT
dual Protag wasn't listed as an option, so I can't really pick any of the above. Hawke is done. They were not marked by magic or the taint, and all my Hawkes are "fuck you" retired, thank you very much. If shit is blowing up, they'll happily run damage control in their immediate location; something they're used to after having done it for 7 years in Kirkwall As I said my intention was to have the 'yes' options cover the dual protagonist option to. a dual protagonist is still a protagonist.
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Post by melbella on Jul 26, 2018 1:10:16 GMT
dual Protag wasn't listed as an option, so I can't really pick any of the above. Hawke is done. They were not marked by magic or the taint, and all my Hawkes are "fuck you" retired, thank you very much. If shit is blowing up, they'll happily run damage control in their immediate location; something they're used to after having done it for 7 years in Kirkwall As I said my intention was to have the 'yes' options cover the dual protagonist option to. a dual protagonist is still a protagonist.
The poll question says "the" not "a" so that's probably why people think dual option is missing.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 1:11:24 GMT
As I said my intention was to have the 'yes' options cover the dual protagonist option to. a dual protagonist is still a protagonist.
The poll question says "the" not "a" so that's probably why people think dual option is missing.
thanks for the suggestion I'll fix it now. edit: How the heck do you edit polls again?
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Post by simit on Jul 26, 2018 1:36:38 GMT
The option i'd pick aint there an thats "Im not bothered"
Most of the cast from DA:I, companion wise, probably wouldn't be there anyhow so my argument for new companions would be mute, but themn that would probably bring in alot of "What about my LI", some could be dead, divine, no recruited etc but you got also the chance there all alive maybe married etc.
You know i got a headache i'll just go new pc an new cast thnxz
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 26, 2018 1:43:27 GMT
I voted for the Inquisitor to come back as some form of protagonist.
Solas has become extremely powerful (and therefore potentially dangerous), and my Inky would not allow anyone else to put themselves at such a risk while she was still able to do something about him. She still believes she has the best chance at getting him to stand down.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 26, 2018 2:36:36 GMT
I vote no, because
1) I'm not remotely convinced that Solas will even be the main antagonist of the game. Based on previous patterns I think it's more likely to be something entirely unrelated. My money is on something Titan-related.
2) I don't see any reason why the Inquisitor HAS to be the one to confront Solas. His actions threaten the entire world. Everyone and anyone could and should have a stake in the outcome of that conflict.
3) It's just my personal preference that I want as few people returning from Inquisition as possible. I'd rather have a new protagonist and a majority (if not entirely) new squad. I don't want to be the leader of a big organisation, just generally speaking.
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Post by Frost on Jul 26, 2018 2:48:14 GMT
Yes, I would like the Inquisitor to be the protagonist or a dual protagonist in D4. The Inquisitor should be the one to go up against Solas. I definitely do not want the Inquisitor to be an npc.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 3:49:35 GMT
I think it would behove bioware that IF the Inquisitor is just an NPC that they keep the dialogue as vague as possible and just stick to the facts. Say "Solas has a plan to rip open the veil" not "Solas was my friend" unless of course they reflect the choices no matter what.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jul 26, 2018 3:52:24 GMT
I'll still play the game even if the Inquisitor is not the protagonist but it's definitely my preference if he/she is, they can even pull a duel role like they did with Ciri/Geralt in witcher 3 and I'll be fine with that. With the addition of Trespasser, it made it so there just won't be the same emotional pull for me if they have a new PC take care of Solas, romanced or not. However, I do not want them to bring the inquisitor back if they're just an NPC and if they're only going to be used as a sacrifice for a new PC.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Jul 26, 2018 9:16:43 GMT
I voted no, for several reasons:
1: Recreating the face, without face codes or something of the like, it'll be murder to recreate the face & that's even assuming BW use the same CC.
2: The mandate for DA has always been a new protag in each game & if the goal of DA4 is to find people that Solas doesn't know, well having Inky walking around would be like sending up a giant flare, so they'd need to be out of the way for that reason.
3: Wasn't really a big fan of Inky, a few people have mentioned this in the past, but being forced to be a goody-two-shoes is boring & to me gave off the vibe of a kids hero, can only do 'the right thing' & so wouldn't lament losing that.
4: A chance to just be somebody new, to RP a different character & interact with a different cast & even members of the previous cast a different way.
5: To be different class if I so desire, choosing Inky again would limit me to being whatever class one I imported was & what if I want to play something different this time?
Personally I think Trespasser would have had more impact if Inky died, their final act to decide the fate of the Inquisition & what direction it takes for Solas & then gone.
But that's all just my opinion, we'll see what gets announced in the future.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jul 26, 2018 10:03:06 GMT
I would love her to have a major role in DA4, but not the protagonist. Perhaps an advisor role? I'll play the game regardless.
I can't see the inquisitor not bringing the fight to Solas, so if he's in the game she has to be, but there was a good point made at the end of trespasser which I won't post here cause I can't do the spoiler thing on my phone. And if Solas isn't in the game there no reason to have her.
DA games are good at fleshing out characters across a single game, where ME tends to do it across multiple, and one of the things I love most about DA is sculpting a new PC, I don't want my experience of a new DA game to be tied down to a previous PC and the choices I made in DAI.
I loved what they did with Hawke and I'd enjoy a similar thing with the Inquisitor too if a smaller role is the only option.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 26, 2018 11:02:01 GMT
I think the Inquisitor will be back, but like Hawke last time.
Has to be a character creator if DAI wasn't coded for export.
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Post by naughtynomad on Jul 26, 2018 11:36:43 GMT
In some ways, I liked the Inquisitor less than Hawke. Hawke would have been great, except he was pigeon-holed into be human. So yeah, if they can't even bring the damn Warden back for a cameo, then no to the Inquisitor being playable again.
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