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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 3:05:48 GMT
Heck, I was still bothered by the fact that Tranquils and Dwarves can survive without dreaming. Dreams are necessary for our brains to truly rest. That's why sleeping pills are discouraged because of how they keep us from hitting the REM stage. Well trying to approach the issue from any sort of scientific perspective is going to cause headaches. We can't assume that ANY aspect of a given fantasy universe will align with our understanding of our own. If anything, we should assume the opposite: that nothing aligns, unless explicitly stated. I guess you're right. These are minor compared to the Mass Effect military flubs. Magic. It's the answer for everything.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 4, 2018 3:26:22 GMT
Yes. Waiting – at least... The fact, he's "dangerous" isn't a valid reason for a death sentence. And they didn't give a chance to him get used to his old-new emotions. We not even know, what is this danger? I don't think, he would call a demon to be possessed again. To be possessed shouldn't be a good feeling. And it rarely just happens... Rarely, but Pharamond was at severely elevated risk. Demons prey on emotions. He had them to spare and was really out of practice controlling them. And he's got his magic back too, right? And he's out of practice controlling that too, and under a lot of stress. This is a setting where accidental magic can happen, and all of this seems like a good recipe for it.Well, I don't think Justinia would have wanted him Tranquil'd again just to preserve peace. I think she probably did it partially because overly emotional mages are dangerous, and partially to preserve peace. As far as Lambert goes, we find out why he wanted to make Pharamond Tranquil again in Cassandra's companion quest. I think part of the reason he was so adamant was for the same reason I'd argue it should have been on the table (namely that overly emotional mages are a potential problem) but looking too deeply into Tranquility is scary to the Seekers because people might figure out how being a Seeker works. (Or at least that was the case before Cassandra got the top spot, since she wants to figure out how all of this works and see if she can use the knowledge to make things better. Can't say I don't like that goal.) I'm not sure I'm comfortable with Lambert's reasons, or that immediately demanding everything be shut down was the right answer, and I'm really not sure keeping his boss of out of the loop was the right call, but reasons he had. As for just watching Pharamond... well, I'd argue that they should have, but from all we've been led to believe about magic, that's a huge gamble. Pharamond might lose control of his powers and kill himself or his watchers... or he might get possessed, and then everyone within whatever building he's being held in is in danger. Not really the emotions are the problem. They seek for the weakness – despair, desire, yes, these are emotions, but I don't think, Uldred was more emotional than Adrian. And again: Pharamond already was possessed – and this isn't a good feeling. I don't think so, he wants to be again. (And yes, the fact, he wants or not – matters.) Pharamond, not an idiot. And at the moment, while he felt guilty – he was even happy. He got his life back. Why would risk it? This kind of paranoia is a poison. More dangerous than every mage. Just think about it: Justinia perhaps would able to let the mages be independent. The rebellion would win – with a minimal bloodshed. Lambert, if support her, would be able to maintain the order – and everyone happy. But what he did instead? Of course, enraged turned against everyone – and the whole order rebelled because of their wounded pride and because of their paranoia. (It would be nice, if the Templars rebel against the system with the mages together, but they rebelled to hunt for the mages... and they killed many people who supposed to be mage sympathizer... Because of the paranoia) So, NOT Pharamond was dangerous but Lambert and his Seekers/Templars. And the paranoia. You wrote what about if he loses the control and turns on himself ...? He wanted to die instead of being tranquil – and he KNEW what is the Tranquility. He experienced. If you worry about he's dangerous – why they just not kill him? Because this is so... cruel? Unacceptable? And the Tranquility just – nice? (They can walk, work, and smile!) Or if they kill him, they lose a free worker? Why it's a concern, he wants to die – and the Tranquility just okay? But NO. A POTENTIAL danger never a reason for a death sentence – and the Tranquility is a death sentence. A final solution.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 4, 2018 3:29:37 GMT
The issue with Tranquility is that it's not actually possible to give informed consent to be made Tranquil. There is literally no way to know what it would be like to truly lack enotion, so mages can't possibly understand what they're signing up for. Tranquil have preferences, though. There is one you can talk to -- perhaps the one in Ostagar? -- who says that he remembers what it was like before, to be ruled by chaotic emotions, and prefers his current state. They can make choices between something that is good and bad, such as Owain going back to the stock room because "it's familiar"; he very clearly felt comfort in doing that in that crazy situation. Clement in Redcliffe dislikes being treated like shit by other mages, wants to be useful, and is clearly grateful (yes, in his limited way) for the opportunity to work for the Inquisition. It's not necessarily a given that no one would prefer to be tranquil, or that no tranquil are satisfied with their condition. And I do think it's possible that a person, like Kelli in the DAO mage origin, would see someone like Owain and make a more-or-less informed decision about becoming tranquil. You can say that someone "can't possibly understand what they're signing up for" about many things, including pretty normal life changes like becoming a parent. You can get most of the picture from society, but it's different when you are finally the parent. However lacking in emotion and desire the tranquil are, they are not completely devoid blocks of wood. I write all this because I think it's important not to measure all the tranquil based on what we ourselves would want. (All of this is written with the understanding that tranquility wasn't forced on the person, which isn't always the case.)
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Post by davesin on Aug 4, 2018 5:51:05 GMT
(But not, Pharamond was not more dangerous than anyone else. The Seekers just evil – Just like the Divine, who approved it, and like the Rite of Tranquility.) Do you consider Justinia to be evil in general or just in this particular instance? Because last time I checked, she supported the mages' cause more than anyone in the Chantry.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 4, 2018 6:16:07 GMT
The issue with Tranquility is that it's not actually possible to give informed consent to be made Tranquil. There is literally no way to know what it would be like to truly lack enotion, so mages can't possibly understand what they're signing up for. Tranquil have preferences, though. There is one you can talk to -- perhaps the one in Ostagar? -- who says that he remembers what it was like before, to be ruled by chaotic emotions, and prefers his current state. They can make choices between something that is good and bad, such as Owain going back to the stock room because "it's familiar"; he very clearly felt comfort in doing that in that crazy situation. Clement in Redcliffe dislikes being treated like shit by other mages, wants to be useful, and is clearly grateful (yes, in his limited way) for the opportunity to work for the Inquisition. It's not necessarily a given that no one would prefer to be tranquil, or that no tranquil are satisfied with their condition. And I do think it's possible that a person, like Kelli in the DAO mage origin, would see someone like Owain and make a more-or-less informed decision about becoming tranquil. You can say that someone "can't possibly understand what they're signing up for" about many things, including pretty normal life changes like becoming a parent. You can get most of the picture from society, but it's different when you are finally the parent. However lacking in emotion and desire the tranquil are, they are not completely devoid blocks of wood. I write all this because I think it's important not to measure all the tranquil based on what we ourselves would want. (All of this is written with the understanding that tranquility wasn't forced on the person, which isn't always the case.) I'm not going to make any definitive claims that being Tranquil is ALWAYS bad, but as I say, it's impossible to know beforehand what Tranquility is actually like. We do not possess the capacity to accurately imagine such an experience. The only way to know for sure, I feel, is to reverse the process and see how the individual feels about the experience once their full faculties are restored. The sample size of cured Tranquil is admittedly small, but not encouraging. It works out for Seekers, somehow, but they also don't remember it ever happening. It makes me wonder if there's something about being Tranquil (or perhaps only a Tranquil mage?) that only they can see or experience, and are unable to communicate the full horror of, as they lack the emotions required to feel and express it.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Aug 4, 2018 6:45:33 GMT
The only way to know for sure, I feel, is to reverse the process and see how the individual feels about the experience once their full faculties are restored. It's never fully explained in the game, but it seems the whole process is different for mages and seekers. Pharamond was... unstable afterward and may have even been more vulnerable to possession. And of course Anders's special circumstances I assume brought Karl back in a more natural fashion [than Pharamond], so he was pretty much normal (or so it seemed from the brief scene). Curing them in the manner of Pharamond is just as cruel, IMO. The best thing is to not use it at all, of course.
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Post by duskwanderer on Aug 4, 2018 10:35:10 GMT
No one can -make- you feel anything. It's also not a sin. What makes you think he would never choose Tranquility? Clearly, Pharamond is an emotional wreck and knows he would be a magnet for demons. Even Justinia can see this. You should take care not to force your interpretations as fact. No? The brainwashing about it. I didn't speak about Pharamond – I spoke about this manPharamond didn't choose the Tranquility – he chose the life. But that Seeker found him so dangerous and even the Divine agreed, yes. This is torture, not some "necessary evil". He perhaps dangerous, but this not a valid reason to destroy his mind. And why not they just killed Pharamond, as he asked? No matter what he exactly wants I read the journal, I am not convinced it wasn't his choice, nor am I convinced it was a sin. That man was clearly in emotional distress. It was not torture, Pharamond was wildly unstable. Even without magic, he's a gibbering wreck, and such people harm others. He was not killed because his knowledge would be needed. Recall that the rite had only succeeded once for a mage. A free bit of advice: You don't destroy your sole knowledge of something until you know there is no knowledge left. It is VERY easy to forget to transcribe an important detail.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 11:01:26 GMT
Locking the Harrowing thread clearly didn't work, so here's a new thread for this discussion. However, please remember the rules still apply. No insults, no baiting, no bad faith posting.
This thread is dedicated to the magical people of Thedas. Mages, Circles, the Annulment, the Harrowing, Templars, Tevinter....anything at all pertaining to magic and the treatment of those who have it, complete with a new poll.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Aug 4, 2018 12:26:53 GMT
I would abolish the Templar order and the Circles and replace them with nothing.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 4, 2018 12:35:55 GMT
(But not, Pharamond was not more dangerous than anyone else. The Seekers just evil – Just like the Divine, who approved it, and like the Rite of Tranquility.) Do you consider Justinia to be evil in general or just in this particular instance? Because last time I checked, she supported the mages' cause more than anyone in the Chantry. Of course, it's an exaggeration. I wrote already, she probably just tried to reassure the mad Seeker, but I still can't accept this decision, despite that it seems 'acceptable" to most people. And this is the danger of the Tranquility – seems just a decent "solution" (a mercy! – according to the Chantry), while the death itself. I don't see any benevolence of the Tranquility. In Pharamond's case, it's a sin. So I want to think, she only accepted this because of the sake of peace... (I would rather execute that Seeker for the peace, but I know, it just me.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 12:55:44 GMT
Apologies, I needed to edit the poll but you can't do that, even as a mod. I remade it from scratch so you'll need to recast your vote.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 4, 2018 13:00:33 GMT
I would abolish the Templar order and the Circles and replace them with nothing. Some safe place for the education and the magical research is very important (not necessarily in the same pace!), just as some anti-magical force to handle the powerful rogue mages. But not with non-mages only, because the mages have many anti-magical spells – without lyrium-addiction. The non-mages would be important in this force, because of the trust, and because the mages are rare. For the peace and the safety. I'm with Anders in this case: "A world where every mage can learn to use their gifts and still return home at night. Where no mother ever needs to hide her child… or lose him to the fear of his neighbours. Where magic is recognized as a gift of the Maker, not the curse it has become."And this: Anders: Where did you learn your magic? I mean, you know my feelings on the Circle, but usually, it's the only decent training a mage can get. Bethany: My father taught me. He was in the Circle once, trained there. But he got away. Anders: You don't know how lucky you were, to have someone who loved you and could help you. Most mages would kill for that. Bethany: You remind me of him. He hated the Circle – but considers the training is important.
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Post by lilyonce on Aug 4, 2018 16:16:13 GMT
And you've the arrogance to think I meant you.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 16:35:41 GMT
Apologies, I needed to edit the poll but you can't do that, even as a mod. I remade it from scratch so you'll need to recast your vote. I'm a little conflicted on these options. I...think I get what you meant on each of these but the wording is hitting that almost but not quite feeling. I don't think we should be leaving mages alone with no place for them to learn how to handle their abilities and receive support for resisting demons. I'm not entirely on board of having all their fate left in the hand of their First Enchanters because of how much of a mixed bag these individuals are. One could be for the Colleges while another could be that irresponsibly negligent one who demoted a fellow mage for arguing for better lesson plans and installed more Templar oversight. As for the part about the Circles and leaving, I don't think that's enough. Some mages can't or will not be able to leave and but them having contact and visitation rights with their family should be an inviolable right along with protections in place from abuse of all sorts and help integrating back into society instead of just being tossed to the wind with no preparation. There's also the stigma associated with the name of the Circles vs calling it the College of Enchanters. I don't mean for you to change it again, just had to voice why I can't seem to pick an option.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 16:38:01 GMT
And you've the arrogance to think I meant you. You quoted dustyelf, so it's no surprise one would think you were being condescending to that particular poster. Politeness is a good thing to have so could you please try not to bait anyone?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 4, 2018 16:38:44 GMT
And you've the arrogance to think I meant you. Well, you can’t really blame them since it is them you quoted when you said that.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Aug 4, 2018 16:42:46 GMT
I would abolish the Templar order and the Circles and replace them with nothing. Some safe place for the education and the magical research is very important (not necessarily in the same pace!), just as some anti-magical force to handle the powerful rogue mages. But not with non-mages only, because the mages have many anti-magical spells – without lyrium-addiction. The non-mages would be important in this force, because of the trust, and because the mages are rare. For the peace and the safety. I'm with Anders in this case: "A world where every mage can learn to use their gifts and still return home at night. Where no mother ever needs to hide her child… or lose him to the fear of his neighbours. Where magic is recognized as a gift of the Maker, not the curse it has become."And this: Anders: Where did you learn your magic? I mean, you know my feelings on the Circle, but usually, it's the only decent training a mage can get. Bethany: My father taught me. He was in the Circle once, trained there. But he got away. Anders: You don't know how lucky you were, to have someone who loved you and could help you. Most mages would kill for that. Bethany: You remind me of him. He hated the Circle – but considers the training is important. Well, Anders has internalised many of the Chantry's beliefs, as shown by his banters with Merrill. If mages want to set up schools for mages, that's fine, but I think the southern kingdoms are way past having any moral authority to say what mages should or shouldn't do. I'd not force any mage to be trained.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 16:45:07 GMT
Apologies, I needed to edit the poll but you can't do that, even as a mod. I remade it from scratch so you'll need to recast your vote. I'm a little conflicted on these options. I...think I get what you meant on each of these but the wording is hitting that almost but not quite feeling. I don't think we should be leaving mages alone with no place for them to learn how to handle their abilities and receive support for resisting demons. I'm not entirely on board of having all their fate left in the hand of their First Enchanters because of how much of a mixed bag these individuals are. One could be for the Colleges while another could be that irresponsibly negligent one who demoted a fellow mage for arguing for better lesson plans and installed more Templar oversight. As for the part about the Circles and leaving, I don't think that's enough. Some mages can't or will not be able to leave and but them having contact and visitation rights with their family should be an inviolable right along with protections in place from abuse of all sorts and help integrating back into society instead of just being tossed to the wind with no preparation. There's also the stigma associated with the name of the Circles vs calling it the College of Enchanters. I don't mean for you to change it again, just had to voice why I can't seem to pick an option. Fair enough. If everyone can pick a better set I'm happy to re-do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 16:50:30 GMT
What about 'Governed by their own representatives' 'Educated in a reformed Circle, with the freedom to leave' and 'Imprisoned in the current Circle'??
Although I meant the Enchanters to be their own representatives, ruling their own vetdion of the Circle without the Chantry, so perhaps if you take it that way Opus it could stay the same?
Still happy to change it if you'd all like.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 16:53:16 GMT
Fair enough. If everyone can pick a better set I'm happy to re-do it. What about this: A. Keep the Circles intact with all the rules from before B. Support the College of Enchanters as a reformed version of the Circles C. Integrate mages into the community after training D. Tranquil/Annul any mage discovered E. Other Sorry, this must be a huge pain to have so much nitpicking.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 16:54:22 GMT
What about 'Governed by their own representatives' 'Educated in a reformed Circle, with the freedom to leave' and 'Imprisoned in the current Circle'?? Although I meant the Enchanters to be their own representatives, ruling their own vetdion of the Circle without the Chantry, so perhaps if you take it that way Opus it could stay the same? Still happy to change it if you'd all like. I'm happy with that. I'd rather you didn't have to start all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 16:54:34 GMT
Fair enough. If everyone can pick a better set I'm happy to re-do it. What about this: A. Keep the Circles intact with all the rules from before B. Support the College of Enchanters as a reformed version of the Circles C. Integrate mages into the community after training D. Tranquil/Annul any mage discovered E. Other Sorry, this must be a huge pain to have so much nitpicking. I'm a born nitpicker, don't worry about it. Let's see what other people think....
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Post by melbella on Aug 4, 2018 16:55:45 GMT
I would vote for mages educated by mages, having nothing to do with the Chantry or Circles, since Circles are by definition, Chantry institutions. So, closer to option 2 than 3, but I don't like "Enchanters have the final say" option either, unless we are talking a collective decision-making body like the College of Enchanters? Sort of like a modern state board of education sets education policy for an entire state. Mage education needs to be non-political and certainly non-religious, if that is even possible. Take the religion out of magic and I think a lot of the issues people have would be resolved. Templars should also not be religious warriors but secular ones with anti-magic training, part of city guards and state armies.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 4, 2018 17:01:36 GMT
Well, Anders has internalised many of the Chantry's beliefs, as shown by his banters with Merrill. If mages want to set up schools for mages, that's fine, but I think the southern kingdoms are way past having any moral authority to say what mages should or shouldn't do. I'd not force any mage to be trained. I definitely agree that mages have absorbed the teachings of the Chantry as well as what the Circles have given them. Perhaps a program meant to incentivize families to seek them out for mage children could help? Like funding and lucrative career fields for any mage who successfully completes their training and/or a support package for any mage and their families who don't make it but stay at the insitution with visitation rights. I'm in support of mandatory teaching for them as one measure of protection for mundanes and the mages themselves but I definitely agree with you that forcing people into situations is inviting trouble.
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Post by lilyonce on Aug 4, 2018 17:16:31 GMT
Politeness is a good thing to have so could you please try not to bait anyone? The same courtesy should be extended to me. And you'd be hardpressed to find where I haven't been in any case as the aggressor. Well, you can’t really blame them since it is them you quoted when you said that. And drop it contextless into the thread? Sure. Whoops. heh. That was directed at the wrong person. If you meant you, then maybe you should not have quoted me? You've edited your response multiple times to make it less aggressive so it seems you understand you have at least some culpability in our past few exchanges. Since I don't know what the problem you have even is (you said I twisted your words though you never said which or explained why that might be the case) PM me to talk about it. I have one more planned post this weekend then I radio silence until the next is ready.
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