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Post by Blast Processor on Jan 26, 2019 1:05:47 GMT
I'm pretty partial to the Milky Way Galaxy, when I look up into the stars and imagine the possibilites it isn't Andomeda I think about, but I think now I'm finally ready to let go. What I would really like to see from the next ME is to try and recapture the spirit and awe of ME1, and in my opinion it would be much easier to accomplish that in Andromeda with so much of it still rather unknown.
I do agree with the naysayers that a game about the First Contact War would be pretty bland, but for me it wasn't so much the FCW that interested me but the time period itself. Finding our place in this new fully inhabited environment we found ourselves in. I would like to see a sequel draw inspiration from that period.
Also, I would sever ties to the ME trilogy. Wrap of this Genophage plot for good and be done with it. I'm not much interested in references to things where the player is more knowledgeable that the player character (ie. the Geth), found it really annoying actually.
Personal Checklist for MEA2:
- Develop or uncover a means of interstellar travel.
- Interact with Aliens, lot's of em'
- More nuance with Alien interaction. Kett bad/Angara good wasn't terribly interesting. Too bad the Roekaar didn't play more of a roll.
- Bring back renegade dialogue.
- Give me a Batarian squad member dammit!!!
- Jump the setting ahead 30 years or so. Enough so that the setting can change but not too much.
- New PC. But give Ryder his or her own quest line, Ryder's LI will join in the quest. If Ryder is forever alone, you get a Scout Harding type fill in instead.
While I did eventually decide that I would prefer a new younger PC, the idea of playing as a Ryder in there 50's was intriguing to me. Its established that Humans live much longer now but we have never seen that explored. An older Ryder would still be in there prime.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 3:04:13 GMT
One idea I've had about a ME3 sequel named (potentially) Mass Effect: The Terminus System, with a new protagonist and team that will:
1. Clear out the Terminus Systems of the bad guys,
2. Protect innocent civilians,
3) Rescue hostages (and find new squadmates in their midst?)
4) Respond to unpredictable Rapid Response Assignments, - Forces you to make a binary lose-lose choice: Do I take the urgent assignment and divert from my next important assignment? - Or have you figure out the way to take on two assignments at the same time (occurring simultaneously on the same planet) - requires perfect time management and resource allocations.
5) Other ideas....
Or explore the area behind the Omega 4 Relay.
Nothing "earth" shattering here, just more of what I have come to love from the style of the Original Trilogy*.
Just thinkin'. I'm a SP fan, though I'm sure SP games are no longer in the BW/EA milieu.
* Anthem seems overwhelming to me. I'm a "quiet" player and mission focused - not a high-action aggressive player.
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 26, 2019 5:53:16 GMT
Were I to be declared dictator of BioWare:
I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status
The game I'd envision would be set in the Milky Way immediately after the Reaper War, High EMS destroy as the canon ending, and with the player as an Alliance Corsair captain that has lost contact with the rest of the Alliance following the damage to the relays. The game itself would focus on rebuilding contact with the surrounding systems and the Alliance more broadly. I'm imagining it taking place in a corner of the galaxy that was fairly built up as a "normal colony system, so not something like Omega, though who says something can't arise more similar to that, Eden Prime and Terra Nova are in the same cluster iirc, and that could be interesting, trying to balance the two colonies.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 26, 2019 12:51:06 GMT
One idea I've had about a ME3 sequel named (potentially) Mass Effect: The Terminus System, with a new protagonist and team that will: I could go for that.
If interested, here's a post I made having a sequel to ME3 with Shepard returning Were I to be declared dictator of BioWare: Here's a thread asking the question if you had the rights to ME and money wasn't an issue
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2019 19:58:53 GMT
Nothing "earth" shattering here, just more of what I have come to love from the style of the Original Trilogy*. Just thinkin'. I'm a SP fan, though I'm sure SP games are no longer in the BW/EA milieu. * Anthem seems overwhelming to me. I'm a "quiet" player and mission focused - not a high-action aggressive player. Overall sounds interesting. Also an SP gamer and find the idea of Anthem difficult. I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status Why? Unless you want to make use of those characters in the MW, it has zero impact on future games.
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 28, 2019 22:29:37 GMT
Nothing "earth" shattering here, just more of what I have come to love from the style of the Original Trilogy*. Just thinkin'. I'm a SP fan, though I'm sure SP games are no longer in the BW/EA milieu. * Anthem seems overwhelming to me. I'm a "quiet" player and mission focused - not a high-action aggressive player. Overall sounds interesting. Also an SP gamer and find the idea of Anthem difficult. I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status Why? Unless you want to make use of those characters in the MW, it has zero impact on future games. because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 29, 2019 1:56:47 GMT
Overall sounds interesting. Also an SP gamer and find the idea of Anthem difficult. Why? Unless you want to make use of those characters in the MW, it has zero impact on future games. because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again Which you can do. Easily. BW could never mention it again while it still remains canon. As I said, unless you plan to make use of any of the MEA characters it has zero impact on future games.
That said, some of us do like it and it didn't do so bad that BW would refuse to acknowledge its existence.
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 29, 2019 3:16:52 GMT
because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again Which you can do. Easily. BW could never mention it again while it still remains canon. As I said, unless you plan to make use of any of the MEA characters it has zero impact on future games.
That said, some of us do like it and it didn't do so bad that BW would refuse to acknowledge its existence.
yeah but this thread isn't about consensus, its what I'd want to do
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Post by monkeylungs on Jan 31, 2019 7:33:27 GMT
Overall sounds interesting. Also an SP gamer and find the idea of Anthem difficult. Why? Unless you want to make use of those characters in the MW, it has zero impact on future games. because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again No. It is actually the 'tied for number ONE Mass Effect game' with Mass Effect 1.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 are garbage compared to Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect Andromeda.
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 31, 2019 14:49:41 GMT
because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again No. It is actually the 'tied for number ONE Mass Effect game' with Mass Effect 1.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 are garbage compared to Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect Andromeda.
by what metric? certainly not sales, DLC content, popular or critical reception
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Post by alanc9 on Jan 31, 2019 18:20:02 GMT
Were I to be declared dictator of BioWare: I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status The game I'd envision would be set in the Milky Way immediately after the Reaper War, High EMS destroy as the canon ending, and with the player as an Alliance Corsair captain that has lost contact with the rest of the Alliance following the damage to the relays. The game itself would focus on rebuilding contact with the surrounding systems and the Alliance more broadly. I'm imagining it taking place in a corner of the galaxy that was fairly built up as a "normal colony system, so not something like Omega, though who says something can't arise more similar to that, Eden Prime and Terra Nova are in the same cluster iirc, and that could be interesting, trying to balance the two colonies. It's not a bad plan, but it decanonizing ME:A actually necessary for it? The only change in your setting would be that there won't be a handful of ships with ODSY drives running around the galaxy. It doesn't seem like a cost worth paying. If you're going to put on a project manager hat, you need to think like one, rather than as a trilogy fan who can't stand ME:A. Why are you picking this fight? What does it gain you?
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Post by samhain444 on Jan 31, 2019 18:37:00 GMT
Were I to be declared dictator of BioWare: I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status The game I'd envision would be set in the Milky Way immediately after the Reaper War, High EMS destroy as the canon ending, and with the player as an Alliance Corsair captain that has lost contact with the rest of the Alliance following the damage to the relays. The game itself would focus on rebuilding contact with the surrounding systems and the Alliance more broadly. I'm imagining it taking place in a corner of the galaxy that was fairly built up as a "normal colony system, so not something like Omega, though who says something can't arise more similar to that, Eden Prime and Terra Nova are in the same cluster iirc, and that could be interesting, trying to balance the two colonies. It's not a bad plan, but it decanonizing ME:A actually necessary for it? The only change in your setting would be that there won't be a handful of ships with ODSY drives running around the galaxy. It doesn't seem like a cost worth paying. If you're going to put on a project manager hat, you need to think like one, rather than as a trilogy fan who can't stand ME:A. Why are you picking this fight? What does it gain you? Wait, why would someone want to remove "ME:A" from canon since it doesn't directly impact the events of the original tri---Oh, it's because it brought someone else joy, isn't it?
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 31, 2019 19:06:53 GMT
Were I to be declared dictator of BioWare: I'd immediately remove MEA from canonical status The game I'd envision would be set in the Milky Way immediately after the Reaper War, High EMS destroy as the canon ending, and with the player as an Alliance Corsair captain that has lost contact with the rest of the Alliance following the damage to the relays. The game itself would focus on rebuilding contact with the surrounding systems and the Alliance more broadly. I'm imagining it taking place in a corner of the galaxy that was fairly built up as a "normal colony system, so not something like Omega, though who says something can't arise more similar to that, Eden Prime and Terra Nova are in the same cluster iirc, and that could be interesting, trying to balance the two colonies. It's not a bad plan, but it decanonizing ME:A actually necessary for it? The only change in your setting would be that there won't be a handful of ships with ODSY drives running around the galaxy. It doesn't seem like a cost worth paying. If you're going to put on a project manager hat, you need to think like one, rather than as a trilogy fan who can't stand ME:A. Why are you picking this fight? What does it gain you? smug self satisfaction.
The question of this thread isn't "What should BioWare's newest project manager decide to do?"
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Post by Steelcan on Jan 31, 2019 19:08:55 GMT
It's not a bad plan, but it decanonizing ME:A actually necessary for it? The only change in your setting would be that there won't be a handful of ships with ODSY drives running around the galaxy. It doesn't seem like a cost worth paying. If you're going to put on a project manager hat, you need to think like one, rather than as a trilogy fan who can't stand ME:A. Why are you picking this fight? What does it gain you? Wait, why would someone want to remove "ME:A" from canon since it doesn't directly impact the events of the original tri---Oh, it's because it brought someone else joy, isn't it? Yes, all I exist for is to remove joy from other people's lives.
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Post by samhain444 on Jan 31, 2019 19:18:09 GMT
Wait, why would someone want to remove "ME:A" from canon since it doesn't directly impact the events of the original tri---Oh, it's because it brought someone else joy, isn't it? Yes, all I exist for is to remove joy from other people's lives. Oh, pfft, you didn't need to confirm that but it's appreciated!
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 1, 2019 2:23:35 GMT
because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again No. It is actually the 'tied for number ONE Mass Effect game' with Mass Effect 1.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 are garbage compared to Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect Andromeda.
And some people would say the exact opposite lol. I enjoy all 4 games but not equally. I love the trilogy but only like Andromeda.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 1, 2019 2:43:41 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan, must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. This is approved by the moderators, and thus if you actually speak your actual opinion in a thread asking for it, and you offend some snowflake into calling you names, you should probably expect to be banned for it. Thus... Lol, like we give a shit what they think!
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 1, 2019 15:17:19 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan , must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. This is approved by the moderators, and thus if you actually speak your actual opinion in a thread asking for it, and you offend some snowflake into calling you names, you should probably expect to be banned for it. Thus... Lol, like we give a shit what they think! "BioDrones", "wrongthink" AND "snowflake"?! And all in one post...just need "SJW!" for my BSN scorecard and I got a BINGO!
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 1, 2019 20:23:23 GMT
It's not a bad plan, but it decanonizing ME:A actually necessary for it? The only change in your setting would be that there won't be a handful of ships with ODSY drives running around the galaxy. It doesn't seem like a cost worth paying. If you're going to put on a project manager hat, you need to think like one, rather than as a trilogy fan who can't stand ME:A. Why are you picking this fight? What does it gain you? smug self satisfaction.
The question of this thread isn't "What should BioWare's newest project manager decide to do?"
Ah.. . "dictator of Bioware" means that you're free to lose as much money as you like? OK, yeah, that means that a lot of stuff is out-of-scope. I didn't realize it wasn't intended to be a realistic plan because it sounded halfway plausible. How come you're not thinking bigger?
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 1, 2019 20:36:17 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan , must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. This is approved by the moderators, and thus if you actually speak your actual opinion in a thread asking for it, and you offend some snowflake into calling you names, you should probably expect to be banned for it. Thus... Lol, like we give a shit what they think! *shrugs*. If you post something on a discussion board, expect it to be discussed. If your ideas are bad, you can't expect people to respect them.
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Post by HYR on Feb 1, 2019 21:30:22 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan , must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. This is approved by the moderators, and thus if you actually speak your actual opinion in a thread asking for it, and you offend some snowflake into calling you names, you should probably expect to be banned for it. Thus... Lol, like we give a shit what they think! *shrugs*. If you post something on a discussion board, expect it to be discussed. If your ideas are bad, you can't expect people to respect them. People seem to not get what free-speech entails after falling into the SJW/anti-SJW rabbit-hole, thinking that mild push-back on an idea or moderation the like of which you see on every forum are tantamount censorship and start seeing ghosts everywhere. Don't fall into that trap, Glenn. That shit fucks with your mind.
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 1, 2019 21:37:21 GMT
[snipping baseless accusation and name calling] Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. Thats... pretty petty and immature. Did you have nothing even slightly on-topic or constructive to post? I fail to see the purpose of your post at least. Oh, woe. Mods on a forum/site hosted by <hoster> actually enforcing <hoster>'s and <site>'s rules. How dare they!
Also (I really didn't expect to write this in response to someone with your current signature or note): Usually a forum is visited to hear other opinions. Challenging those opinions and statements may lead to the other person rethinking and changing those. Or it leads to responses that make oneself rethink ones position. (I know that has come somewhat out of fashion, with the preferred interaction now being a 'we vs them' based derogatory exchange consisting mostly of sequences of increasingly more negatively assigned adjectives towards the other side. I don't understand, or like it. And frankly its getting increasingly infuriating.)
Being basically a Dev-Based forum offshoot, off course the number of people liking Biowares games -especially those a thread in question pertains to- is higher than most places else. With that comes a higher number of positive feedbacks. Doesn't mean that any of those are drones. Also it make other opinions even more important.
Sorry, needed to get that off my chest.
On topic; I'm not sure i already posted in this thread or a very similar one.
At first I hated the idea of going to Andromeda. I remember being even in totally denial about it, when Heimdall and a few others picked that up. I guess I still hate the idea of leaving the MW and the complete mess behind unresolved. On the other hand, what made the trilogy great for me was having a single more-or-less continuos character to play through these games, with at least some choices playing into the sequels and giving the impression that it was really an actual continuation of the very same character in the same universe. Unlike Deus Ex, or Metro or anything else, where there are choices that are then completely ignored in sequels. I still see no way to make the ME3 ending even remotely passable or display the effects anywhere like they should be.
What I see is an ME:A that I liked, with characters that could become similar familiar, fleshed out, and all around awesome as the trilogy ones -if given more time. And also I want to have the same feature again, of playing my Ryders through sequels that are affected by their decisions. Even if just in some small ways. The point MEA left is almost perfect for that. There are basically countless possible enemies, allies, unknowns cliffhangers, unexpected changes, and anything in between inside or outside of heleus. Any pre-ME3 story on the other hand has a fixed expiration date. The stories there could be fun, and great, and whatnot -sure. But there will always be the ending looming over that.
TL/DR: Yeah, I want a direct sequel with Ryder(s), the Tempest, its crew, and the rest of the pathfinder teams. I want it to be set mostly in the Heleus cluster, and I want each of Ryder's decisions to have a believable impact.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 1, 2019 21:48:32 GMT
smug self satisfaction.
The question of this thread isn't "What should BioWare's newest project manager decide to do?"
Ah.. . "dictator of Bioware" means that you're free to lose as much money as you like? OK, yeah, that means that a lot of stuff is out-of-scope. I didn't realize it wasn't intended to be a realistic plan because it sounded halfway plausible. How come you're not thinking bigger? I don't think declaring MEA non-cnanonical and going back to the Milky Way would lose money, quite the opposite, a return to the Milky Way would inject some interest in people who played the OT but skipped Andromeda due to its poor pre-release reception, as well as win over fans who never wanted to go to Andromeda to begin with. The non-canonical status of MEA would just be my petty vindication.
The rest of my proposal is a pretty reasonable possible title in the franchise and that's really what I want, a game that forges ahead within the Milky Way after the Reaper War and builds off where ME3 stopped. I don't think a much bigger game would be of interest to me at least. Andromeda was nothing if not big and bold, a brand new galaxy, a fresh start, new races, and so on, and it is competing with DA2 for worst modern BW game (ironically a game which does scale things down significantly from its predecessor).
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Feb 1, 2019 23:21:31 GMT
Triggered.
Lol.
Edit: BioWare fans =/= BioDrones
I am the former, and despise the latter.
A drone blindly follows, and does what master wants. There are absolutely drones here.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 2, 2019 0:34:19 GMT
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