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Post by smilesja on Feb 2, 2019 15:38:51 GMT
Overall sounds interesting. Also an SP gamer and find the idea of Anthem difficult. Why? Unless you want to make use of those characters in the MW, it has zero impact on future games. because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again You mean Mass Effect 3?
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Post by smilesja on Feb 2, 2019 16:06:17 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan , must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. Else, you can be called names by them that are nicer than the ones I call them, but with the exact same intent. This is approved by the moderators, and thus if you actually speak your actual opinion in a thread asking for it, and you offend some snowflake into calling you names, you should probably expect to be banned for it. Thus... Lol, like we give a shit what they think! *shrugs*. If you post something on a discussion board, expect it to be discussed. If your ideas are bad, you can't expect people to respect them. Especially if said posts insults other people.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 2, 2019 19:33:51 GMT
because it is a blight upon the franchise just by its existence. Best to just cut it off and never speak of it again You mean Mass Effect 3? I do like many elements of Mass Effect 3, and I can see why Fans like it and others hate it. I would love to play as a New PC of a Different faction if there was a ME3 remake
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 0:58:46 GMT
Which you can do. Easily. BW could never mention it again while it still remains canon. As I said, unless you plan to make use of any of the MEA characters it has zero impact on future games.
That said, some of us do like it and it didn't do so bad that BW would refuse to acknowledge its existence.
yeah but this thread isn't about consensus, its what I'd want to do The only way what you want can really exist is if you go back in time and prevent it from ever happening. Removing it from continuity because you didn't like it is just stupid. It gains you nothing.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 3, 2019 1:26:29 GMT
yeah but this thread isn't about consensus, its what I'd want to do The only way what you want can really exist is if you go back in time and prevent it from ever happening. Removing it from continuity because you didn't like it is just stupid. It gains you nothing. Its petty sure, its also what I want to do. Why is that such a hard concept?
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Post by griffith82 on Feb 3, 2019 5:29:37 GMT
Triggered. Lol. Edit: BioWare fans =/= BioDrones I am the former, and despise the latter. A drone blindly follows, and does what master wants. There are absolutely drones here. No just people with different opinions. We like something you dont so you pick a fight. Pretty simple logic.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 6:29:19 GMT
Apparently what you want, Steelcan, must conform with the BioDrones or it is wrongthink. Even in a thread that is asking for your actual opinion. That's not actually it. It's a pointless exercise in crying over a game he doesn't like. It's the equivalent of "Waa, I hate that game! Make it go away!" Meanwhile, it could just be ignored and you can headcanon the hell out of it not existing. The game could still go back to the MW and never discuss Andromeda again but still have it canon. Keep in mind that having the right to an opinion does not necessarily make it valid. The game exists and is canon. Time for people to get over it. I think you know by now that I'm not even remotely a snowflake. We've had enough discussions to verify that as fact. I'm not offended by the opinion. I just think it's irrational. I like MEA. Not really a secret. However, when I write stories set in the ME Universe, I have the Ryder Twins and Gil (and probably the rest, though I haven't used them) remain in the MW. It's mainly because I want to make use of them but it takes nothing away from the games themselves. I have one headcanon for the games and one for fiction.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 6:31:31 GMT
The only way what you want can really exist is if you go back in time and prevent it from ever happening. Removing it from continuity because you didn't like it is just stupid. It gains you nothing. Its petty sure, its also what I want to do. Why is that such a hard concept? Then make your own poll where that's an option. None of the ones in this thread have it. It talks about who you want as the protagonist in the next game and the setting. Nothing there touches on rewriting reality.
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Post by cloud9 on Feb 3, 2019 12:14:44 GMT
It's statements just like this one that reinforce my opinion that Bioware will have absolutely nothing to gain by capitulating to this crowd that hates them and whatever they do already because SJW's and ME3 endings and... reasons. Those 'ex-fans" are already lost to them and they aren't coming back. They keep coming back here just to stir the pot, call us fans "fanboys" and such, and make trouble. Even if Bioware does release a direct sequel to ME3 or a prequel or massive remake of the Trilogy itself, I"m willing to bet it still won't satisfy the vast majority of this "ex-fan" crowd because it won't be exactly, written line for line, as they say they want it done. They are simply unwilling to give Bioware any creative wiggle-room.
Bioware, therefore, have nothing to gain by abandoning the ME:A story they've already started and planned to continue (so the basic outline for it was written long before ME:A released). It's also, most likely, a cheaper option than creating an entirely new story. By completing the Andromeda story and just making a better game of it, they do and can gain new fans who happen to have enjoyed Andromeda when it released and others who are, over this last year, coming to the conclusion that the initial criticisms of the game were too harsh. They do stand to gain new fans who have never played a Mass Effect game... fans who won't be demanding that they get bogged down in the old Trilogy mindset but who are willing to move on to new ideas and new ways of making good video games. They already abandoned MEA. How many DLC's did you get for it There is a fundamental difference between creativity and SJW idiocy. Making characters ugly in an effort to present realistic beauty standards is idiotic. Transphobia in 23 century earth, idiotic. Yeah, I had to escape an entire galaxy that's how anti trans people there were. There are so many of those fans that Bioware won't even comment on Andromeda and canceled all DLC in development. Here's a novel to read, we're done with it. Hire competent writers, stop the idiotic wannabe humor in situations that don't warrant it, fire all SJW's from the company and there ya go. Good game Or just hire experienced designers who knows what the hell they're doing and make it better than the Trilogy.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 3, 2019 15:35:20 GMT
Its petty sure, its also what I want to do. Why is that such a hard concept? Then make your own poll where that's an option. None of the ones in this thread have it. It talks about who you want as the protagonist in the next game and the setting. Nothing there touches on rewriting reality. someone's salty...
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 3, 2019 20:07:28 GMT
Then make your own poll where that's an option. None of the ones in this thread have it. It talks about who you want as the protagonist in the next game and the setting. Nothing there touches on rewriting reality. someone's salty...
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Post by samhain444 on Feb 4, 2019 17:16:25 GMT
Triggered. Lol. Edit: BioWare fans =/= BioDrones I am the former, and despise the latter. A drone blindly follows, and does what master wants. There are absolutely drones here. No just people with different opinions. We like something you dont so you pick a fight. Pretty simple logic. Oh, wow, he used "Triggered"...with the "free space" that's a BSN bingo!
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Post by HYR on Feb 4, 2019 18:40:07 GMT
Incel bingo.
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an Alien blob that swallows people and pukes them out.
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Post by ahglock on Feb 5, 2019 17:48:59 GMT
an Alien blob that swallows people and pukes them out. I think that’s the thorian.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 5, 2019 18:30:44 GMT
an Alien blob that swallows people and pukes them out. I think that’s the thorian. Well True, that Thorian does that. Also Sometimes I will encourage Bioware to go weird for the sake of going weird. Also I would love to see them make fun of SJW and somehow they get indoctrinated fully and work for the Reapers and saying the Reapers have rights too
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 5, 2019 18:35:37 GMT
Wait, why would someone want to remove "ME:A" from canon since it doesn't directly impact the events of the original tri---Oh, it's because it brought someone else joy, isn't it? Yes, all I exist for is to remove joy from other people's lives. So is that why ME3's ending remains intact in all this? I didn't know you were a horrible fascist, Steelcan.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 5, 2019 19:39:46 GMT
I think that’s the thorian. Well True, that Thorian does that. Also Sometimes I will encourage Bioware to go weird for the sake of going weird. Also I would love to see them make fun of SJW and somehow they get indoctrinated fully and work for the Reapers and saying the Reapers have rights too People do say that. I've had people claim that punishing a race of beings that has engaged in countless levels of genocide means Shepard - who kills them and, by default the geth - deserves equal punishment. Essentially, the Reapers have "rights" and so should be allowed to exist in Synthesis or Control. Bullshit, I say!
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Post by Phantom on Feb 5, 2019 21:02:13 GMT
Well True, that Thorian does that. Also Sometimes I will encourage Bioware to go weird for the sake of going weird. Also I would love to see them make fun of SJW and somehow they get indoctrinated fully and work for the Reapers and saying the Reapers have rights too People do say that. I've had people claim that punishing a race of beings that has engaged in countless levels of genocide means Shepard - who kills them and, by default the geth - deserves equal punishment. Essentially, the Reapers have "rights" and so should be allowed to exist in Synthesis or Control. Bullshit, I say! Well Dmc, Anyone that thinks that Reaper are good guys might be indoctrinated. So having an organization that is devoted to giving Reapers right might be an interesting organization to fight against. Reaper using them to destabilize the Citadel thru more legal means. Also I would have Reaper being more intelligence than they were in the OT. Instead of the Over Arching A.I. aka Starbrat, Having Sovereign need to get to the Gatekeeper. The GateKeeper would open the Gate from DarkSpace to Normal Space in the Galaxy and works as a General of the Reapers. Sovereign becomes "King" of the Reapers During Mass Effect 3 and indoctrinating people subtly to the Reaper's favor. Overt Indoctrination that makes villains stupid. Subtle Indoctrination is what I prefer.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 5, 2019 21:45:49 GMT
Well Dmc, Anyone that thinks that Reaper are good guys might be indoctrinated. So having an organization that is devoted to giving Reapers right might be an interesting organization to fight against. Reaper using them to destabilize the Citadel thru more legal means. Also I would have Reaper being more intelligence than they were in the OT. Oh, shit. I forgot. The Arrival tells the real story there. Indoctrination leaves the person feeling that they're doing to "right thing" in defending the Reapers and not seeing them as all that bad. It's a fact that we execute people who engage in genocide. Shepard did it in the only way possible. It's sad that some others suffered for it (assuming you care about the geth - you might not) but there was no way around it. I've driven home the point that people would not be happy with the continued existence of the Reapers under any circumstances. Synthesis in no way takes away from the Reapers having killed most, or all, of their friends and family. People would still fight them (unless indoctrinated, which they'd have to be to ignore this), which would cause a war. Given the power the Reapers have, it's a sure bet organics would lose. And who's to say the Reapers don't decide they know what's best for us and begin to enforce it? No, kill those fuckers and prove you're not indoctrinated.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 5, 2019 22:05:30 GMT
Well Dmc, Anyone that thinks that Reaper are good guys might be indoctrinated. So having an organization that is devoted to giving Reapers right might be an interesting organization to fight against. Reaper using them to destabilize the Citadel thru more legal means. Also I would have Reaper being more intelligence than they were in the OT. Oh, shit. I forgot. The Arrival tells the real story there. Indoctrination leaves the person feeling that they're doing to "right thing" in defending the Reapers and not seeing them as all that bad. It's a fact that we execute people who engage in genocide. Shepard did it in the only way possible. It's sad that some others suffered for it (assuming you care about the geth - you might not) but there was no way around it. I've driven home the point that people would not be happy with the continued existence of the Reapers under any circumstances. Synthesis in no way takes away from the Reapers having killed most, or all, of their friends and family. People would still fight them (unless indoctrinated, which they'd have to be to ignore this), which would cause a war. Given the power the Reapers have, it's a sure bet organics would lose. And who's to say the Reapers don't decide they know what's best for us and begin to enforce it? No, kill those fuckers and prove you're not indoctrinated. Thinking One is a hero while indoctrinated would be an excellent villain if written well. Appearing Like a True Hero to the public in game and to player, watching them villain out of anyone's control other Reaper's Control. Think Villain with Good Publicity would play off the Player and their New PC hero.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 5, 2019 22:44:20 GMT
I think that’s the thorian. Well True, that Thorian does that. Also Sometimes I will encourage Bioware to go weird for the sake of going weird. Also I would love to see them make fun of SJW and somehow they get indoctrinated fully and work for the Reapers and saying the Reapers have rights too Reaper lives matter.
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Post by Phantom on Feb 5, 2019 22:55:23 GMT
Keep going with my Villain with Good Publicity, My Hero will be Hero with Bad Publicity. No matter what your Hero does, No one will believe you due to your character is a No one a....a ghost, a spectre, a wraith, a phantom, A NEMO....or a bad guy on a road on redemption strives to expose the True bad guys.
Turian Blue Sun Member, Drell Assassin, Cerberus Phantom, and Volus Infiltrators are people with bad reputations that could work with this idea.
I would happily replace ME3 Cerberus with a believably large Organization that could take on Citadel, System Alliance and Cerberus Fleets in a fair fight. Remember that Mass Effect Milk Way galaxy is 99% unexplored, This organization comes from the unexplored areas of the Milk Way and assist the Reapers. Of course they are scary looking badasses that has sweet ass toys that are a nightmare to fight.
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Post by Steelcan on Feb 6, 2019 0:22:45 GMT
Yes, all I exist for is to remove joy from other people's lives. So is that why ME3's ending remains intact in all this? I didn't know you were a horrible fascist, Steelcan. That's why I take yoga, to be flexible enough for goosestepping
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 6, 2019 0:30:38 GMT
It's a fact that we execute people who engage in genocide. Shepard did it in the only way possible. It's sad that some others suffered for it (assuming you care about the geth - you might not) but there was no way around it. So if it is a fact we execute people who engage in genocide, and Shepard engages in genocide of all synthetic life in the galaxy in order to exterminate the Reapers, then by your logic Shepard should be executed.
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