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Post by regack on Dec 7, 2018 13:40:51 GMT
This trailer has definitely piqued my interest a little more. I'm still going to remain skeptical and reserve judgement until there is more to know - after all it's a cinematic trailer, and with the music and splicing and cutting and voice over.... The game itself might be very different.
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Post by lennybusker on Dec 7, 2018 15:49:05 GMT
This trailer has definitely piqued my interest a little more. I'm still going to remain skeptical and reserve judgement until there is more to know - after all it's a cinematic trailer, and with the music and splicing and cutting and voice over.... The game itself might be very different. Same here. I'm still skeptical of live service games in general especially since this is BWEA's first foray, but the narrative-focused trailer did boost my optimism a bit. It felt like BioWare, which is really the only thing keeping me at the table so far.
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Post by majesticjazz on Dec 7, 2018 16:03:25 GMT
While the trailer somewhat showed more story, I cannot take this seriously as a standard Bioware game in terms of what I expect from a story.
1) What they showed from Ft. Tarsis really looks bland with telephone NPCs just standing there. That might have been an immersive world in 2003 but not by 2018 standards.
2) It is still an online first game and I am single player first gamer.
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 7, 2018 16:13:04 GMT
1) What they showed from Ft. Tarsis really looks bland with telephone NPCs just standing there. That might have been an immersive world in 2003 but not by 2018 standards. 2) It is still an online first game and I am single player first gamer. 1.) What they showed from Fort Tarsis was a stripped-down version of what will be in the final game, to ensure gameplay in that version of the alpha worked as intended. 2.) You can play the entire game solo. 3.) Either you know nothing about the game or you already knew both of those things I pointed out. I guarantee it.
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Post by saandrig on Dec 7, 2018 17:15:54 GMT
1.) What they showed from Fort Tarsis was a stripped-down version of what will be in the final game, to ensure gameplay in that version of the alpha worked as intended. 2.) You can play the entire game solo. 1. Source? Even if so, with Bioware's track record of trailer/prerelease gameplay compared to the actual released product, we won't be 100 % sure until it ships.
2. Really? You can play the entire content solo? All of it? Source again, please? Because I am pretty sure there are quite a few statements from Bioware devs where they admit you can't play all of it solo and generally try to avoid the question in order not to anger their single player fan base.
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Post by giubba on Dec 7, 2018 17:53:12 GMT
1.) What they showed from Fort Tarsis was a stripped-down version of what will be in the final game, to ensure gameplay in that version of the alpha worked as intended. 2.) You can play the entire game solo. 1. Source? Even if so, with Bioware's track record of trailer/prerelease gameplay compared to the actual released product, we won't be 100 % sure until it ships.
2. Really? You can play the entire content solo? All of it? Source again, please? Because I am pretty sure there are quite a few statements from Bioware devs where they admit you can't play all of it solo and generally try to avoid the question in order not to anger their single player fan base.
1)5:30 twitch stream or google for more than two minutes and you will find plenty of confirmation
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Post by ShadowAngel on Dec 7, 2018 17:58:59 GMT
Looks good but ultimately it's another trailer that tells me little. I'm still on the fence about it. I'm hoping they do some more gameplay stuff over quest+npcs at some point as well as showing off lvl progression.
I wasn't expecting much since it's the VGAs, bout the best you'll get are teasers or 1 minute vids.
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Post by giubba on Dec 7, 2018 18:09:15 GMT
Looks good but ultimately it's another trailer that tells me little. I'm still on the fence about it. I'm hoping they do some more gameplay stuff over quest+npcs at some point as well as showing off lvl progression. I wasn't expecting much since it's the VGAs, bout the best you'll get are teasers or 1 minute vids. I kinda agree story trailers never wowed me too much apart from some parts where they forcefully try to impress you, sometimes they succeed sometimes don't but they aren't the one that shift my opinion about a game.
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Post by malgus on Dec 7, 2018 18:13:28 GMT
I am actually even more interested now, with this teaser the villain seems to be well written as they are really going for a bad guy with gray morality. He witness the suffering of the people inside the walls and wants to use the anthem to help humanity but he is willing to use dangerous artifacts like the anthem to do it. I love well intentionned extremist, and I like the fact that the trailer just surprise you by revealing that the narrator was the bad guy all along.
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Post by saandrig on Dec 7, 2018 21:32:57 GMT
That's like if I asked for your source that there will be a new Mass Effect game and you point me for "proof" to the thread "We hope and pray there is another ME game". Speculation on vague statements is not proof.
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Post by giubba on Dec 7, 2018 21:35:07 GMT
That's like if I asked for your source that there will be a new Mass Effect game and you point me for "proof" to the thread "We hope and pray there is another ME game". Speculation on vague statements is not proof. Did you read the op? there is the link with the interview when the news came out months ago
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Post by saandrig on Dec 7, 2018 22:56:51 GMT
That's like if I asked for your source that there will be a new Mass Effect game and you point me for "proof" to the thread "We hope and pray there is another ME game". Speculation on vague statements is not proof. Did you read the op? there is the link with the interview when the news came out months ago You misunderstand my question. It's not "can you play solo?". It's "can you play, achieve and finish everything the game offers only as solo?". And so far the answer is "You sorta can (maybe, not really, dunno yet), but the game is tailored to be played as a group and there are missions where you have to be grouped." Although lately there has been hints that maybe there will be some sort of mission scaling, the general Bioware message is still "Ït's better to be grouped up". Which is perfectly fine, but I'd prefer a more concrete and committed answer, not careful dancing around the issue, that's all
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Post by Indomito on Dec 7, 2018 23:45:14 GMT
Well, i like the trailer. I think it was good. I´m still waiting for more gameplay until i decide to buy it, or not.
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Post by clips7 on Dec 8, 2018 2:53:05 GMT
Trailer was better than i expected. The villain was a bit generic in his design concept and he has this vibe of i guess what you would call an honorary villain? He states he will use the power to end the suffering and looks to save these people from themselves.
The 'ol "villain assumes his vile actions are for the greater good of the planet" concept....i've seen it before....."Saren...ME1".....but these plot-points can work if they can structure a way for the audience to actually care about the villain in a way that makes players actually care about his cause, thus causing mixed feeling about defeating him overall.
If story was the main focus here, i'd say that maybe Bioware has a shot at making this story interesting, but story mode in this game imo looks like it will be a bare-bones experience, being that the story wasn't a priority in the first place...Bioware didn't lie about what this game was from the jump...an online 4 player experience....story mode will be what ME3 multiplayer was for ME3 (i still luv that MP) just stating that story will probably just be a run of the mill experience.
Shame tho....cause i could actually see this being interesting if this was given time to be fully fleshed out as a true single player entity....
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Post by michaelm on Dec 8, 2018 5:43:12 GMT
You assume. I watched a trailer that doesnt explain anything other than "there's bad stuff in the world with this super bad power in the center of it all and oh look theres a villain who wants to use it". Still no idea if this is a dystopia Earth or another planet or an alternate reality and if that info is actually out there then i guess i hadn't dug deep enough for it. And like i said, the stigma makes me not want to. No, I don't assume. I quite correctly concluded from your statements that you're whining about a game you know literally nothing about. Dude...i made that point myself, i dont know anything about the game because the trailers dont reveal anything. Your first "conclusion" was that i didnt even watch the thing, but now youre "concluding" that i dont know anything. Good job genius, concluding something i already pointed out. Shinobu what i meant is the polish, the character models, animation, graphical fidelity etc. Andromeda looked like a rushed experiment while Anthem appears to have been given a lot of care and effort.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 8, 2018 5:59:26 GMT
No, I don't assume. I quite correctly concluded from your statements that you're whining about a game you know literally nothing about. Dude...i made that point myself, i dont know anything about the game because the trailers dont reveal anything. Your first "conclusion" was that i didnt even watch the thing, but now youre "concluding" that i dont know anything. Good job genius, concluding something i already pointed out. Shinobu what i meant is the polish, the character models, animation, graphical fidelity etc. Andromeda looked like a rushed experiment while Anthem appears to have been given a lot of care and effort. Anthem had more time and resources, with good results. I still hope to get MEA2 someday and with luck it will get the time and money it deserves.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Dec 8, 2018 9:36:27 GMT
I'm in a wait and see mode. The trailer looked fine I guess, the antagonist doesn't seem to be that interesting tbh... I having a hard time figuring out how to tell a good story in a looter-shooter game. I guess the make it or break it points will be overall gameplay feel, balance, and the depth of the loot system, and I struggle to believe that we will reach a Path of Exile levels of depth.
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Post by OdanUrr on Dec 9, 2018 1:24:19 GMT
The trailer told me little else beyond the fact there's a villain, a pretty generic one at that. I also got the impression that, more than "Our World, My Story," this is really, "Our World, Their Story." Absolutely no emphasis is placed on the role your character will play in this narrative (it doesn't help that there's no third-person perspective of said character). I hope they still haven't brought their A game to the marketing 'cause it's rather underwhelming.
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 9, 2018 1:31:39 GMT
The trailer told me little else beyond the fact there's a villain, a pretty generic one at that. I also got the impression that, more than "Our World, My Story," this is really, "Our World, Their Story." Absolutely no emphasis is placed on the role your character will play in this narrative (it doesn't help that there's no third-person perspective of said character). I think BioWare figures it's pretty obvious that your character will be an artisan who masquerades as a Freelancer purely so they can paint glorious pictures of the world, and the climax of the story involves sculpting a statue of the Monitor from the cryo-frozen ass of an Ursix.
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Post by OdanUrr on Dec 9, 2018 1:32:57 GMT
The trailer told me little else beyond the fact there's a villain, a pretty generic one at that. I also got the impression that, more than "Our World, My Story," this is really, "Our World, Their Story." Absolutely no emphasis is placed on the role your character will play in this narrative (it doesn't help that there's no third-person perspective of said character). I think BioWare figures it's pretty obvious that your character will be an artisan who masquerades as a Freelancer purely so they can paint glorious pictures of the world, and the climax of the story involves sculpting a statue of the Monitor from the cryo-frozen ass of an Ursix. Well, that's certainly creative.
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Post by Kelwing on Dec 9, 2018 3:35:12 GMT
Ok, now that is something I have been looking for. Gave me a sense that there is a story hidden in this. Consider my interest piqued. Time will tell if it's something I want to play.
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