Former Elf Companions Joining Solas (or not) In DA4

Hmm, I suppose that could happen. 
I wonder if Zevran would join Solas or not. Merrill and Sera wouldn't since Solas is literally Merrill's religion's devil and Sera...well we know her opinion of him even before that revelation. Velanna I could see joining, since even though he is her devil too she would be willing to make a deal with the devil to restore the elves. Fenris apparently could. That just leaves Zevran. 
Oh, and while not a companion(yet) Vaea we know she wouldn't according to her writer. 

Solas brought down an empire very much like Tevinter and freed its slaves. They could find some common ground there. And if Solas succeeds, Tevinter would be erased from Thedas. It would just be a question of whether it would be worth burning everything else. Fenris' views on magic might change with Solas' dream of a utopia emerging from a post-Fade world. 

I want to say Zevran's too grounded to fall for that, but that's probably my own bias speaking. He does have a darkly cynical streak and I imagine an unromanced Zevran feels as if the world is kind of a crapshoot anyway, might as well start over.


My soul rails against the idea of a Solas-supporting Fenris and I would most definitely alter my canon if that ever turned out to be true, buuuut I don't think it's fair to say Gaider doesn't understand his own character. Fenris has been tempted before, in the Fade. And that's not even getting into his lyrium markings that look suspiciously like vallaslin and whatever mind-wiping ritual was involved in recieving them... I'm just sayin'. I could see him being manipulated or brainwashed into supporting something he ostensibly hates.

I wouldn't like it, but I could see it.

Yeah Zevran could go either way depending on how his development goes. Like you, I lean towards him not siding with Solas but there would definitely be some temptation there(for example maybe getting Rinna back) especially if he has nothing on the other side like the Warden.

Is it bad that I've read (and quite enjoyed) some Fenris/Solas slashfic for this exact reason? They're perfect rivalmance material for each other.

I can see Fenris supporting Solas if he's only in on the "free some slaves" bit of his operations (See my previous theory/hope that Solas will be doing more than funky fade junk in DA4). But yeah, I very highly doubt he could be brought around to the whole "tearing down the Veil" bit. It would depend on how honest Solas is being with his followers, I think. tbh I'll be surprised if he openly admits to the Veil thing, if only because too many people would likely find it unbelievable (In the same way that, I imagine, they think he's only using the name Fen'Harel instead of being the actual Fen'Harel, because the notion of an actual elven god running around would be too unsettling and otherwordly, especially to Andrastian city elves.)

tbh I can't see Zevran going for anything Solas offers, if only because Zevran doesn't seem very motivated by grand sweeping causes like Solas'. I could see Merril or Velanna, especially if Solas is sharing some of his ancient elven knowledge. And naturally Sera would never want anything to do with him.

I don't think being an elf would make a whole helluva lot of difference to Fenris tbh. Dude doesn't have a ton of elf solidarity. He's like..... second-to-last in line in those terms. Solas (kind of, with stipulations about who qualifies as an elf) > Merrill/Velanna/Ariane > Zevran > Fenris > Sera.






Also, we probably need a separate thread for the "which elves would throw in with Solas" debate.

EDIT: Made this a separate post for ease of movement if indeed we do get shuffled to a separate thread for this being too off topic.

I can def see Velanna :'(

to add: know he doesn't work there anymore but as a Fenris stan Gaider's tweet and subsequent discussion gave me the Fear. and its part of why I'm so leery of constant "bring back x in the next game" requests (the other part is that my preference is for a mostly new roster so I can get to know new people, and not a million cameos to avoid Thedas feeling super small - this is a personal thing I know)

anyway. look what happened in DA:I. I ended up changing my entire canon from Origins which had romanced Alistair as a Warden, to avoid having to pick between killing my Warden's partner or killing my DA2 PC. pls.. just let a Fenris who stayed with Hawke and didnt get given back to Danarius live a nice happy ending offscreen with romanced Hawke and or his friends. leave britney alooooone 😭😭

yes I'm pathetic and yes I'm biased

It's difficult to imagine any of our previous companions signing up for the destruction of thedas and everyone/everything they hold dear.

But then I doubt Solas tells his agents what the actual plan is - whatever details-omitted half truths he's does disseminate to grow his network may be far more appealing.

I have a hard time seeing Fenris joining up with Solas...more likely to squash him with that mighty blow he frequently used to wipe out my party. I could see him teaming up with Calpernia to rid the TI of slavery though. Merrill on the other hand I can see being gullible and obsessive enough to follow Solas. Zevran, not a chance.

It all depends on what Solas tells his agent, to be honest. I don’t think that he’d tell them the whole truth on his plans, regardless on how his plans are going to be shaped in TDWR.
For that reason I can see some former elven companions joining him. I don’t think either Fenris or Merril are necessary out of reach for his propaganda.