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Post by ahglock on Jan 24, 2019 16:35:45 GMT
Wait... you're assuming that the Reapers didn't map those systems? Why not? Alternately, suppose some races/races considered this technology to be too dangerous, perhaps even for the purpose to preventing expansion/conflict? They destroy the relays and a wide swath, so wide that it would even be far for the Reapers to go. Or just not worth it because they haven't shown the signs that generally cause the Reapers to attack. I know it requires some hoops to jump through, but no more so than opting to go to Andromeda over exploring the uncharted regions of the MW. It could be as simple as the reapers being so sure of their plan that if a race hasn’t activated the local relay they clearly aren’t advanced enough for a fly by. I still don’t see the point though. If you avoid omega, Illium, presidium etc andromeda works just as well. I mean I think it makes more sense than we invented super drives that no one else knows about, decide to fly to a far off galaxy, with a crew and population of idiots, and have it mostly be unarmed and with no plans for when things go wrong. So would have been better if done first but what’s done is done and the super drives were invented, and team fuckwit flew off to andromeda.
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Post by guanxi on Jan 26, 2019 8:33:24 GMT
The interesting stuff in the milky way galaxy is not the stuff we know about it's what's hiding in the un-mapped relay systems. Any undiscovered alien civilization who's relay is either inoperable or in a distant star system will have to advance significantly more than we did technologically speaking in order to reach it or to achieve the impossible and develop space-faring technology independently of reaper technology that doesn't require mass relays to traverse the galaxy which is exactly what the mass relay systems and extinction cycles were designed to prevent - to stop one species dominating the rest. Any such civilization could be far older than 50k years and any species older than a Reaper Cycle will have likely succeeded where the Leviathans couldn't and conquered artificial intelligence either as organics as the Protheans theorized or have become either partially or completely synthetic which again the cycles were created to prevent. Wait... you're assuming that the Reapers didn't map those systems? No i'm simply asserting that we have no godly idea what life lies in the inactivated relay systems we don't even have maps for and I suppose it logically follows neither would the reapers. It is also worth noting that the inactivated (i.e., un-discovered, un-networked, disconnected, broken) relay systems did not appear to be affected by the crucible blast.
Any species in any given cycle who may have advanced knowledge of a reaper invasion like we did might disable their own relay to survive. The chances of this not happening since the beginning of recorded time are probably slim to none.
What you could infer as uncharted territory from the perspective of the reapers I suppose is that the Reapers model life but life is shaped by their model - any species who develops outside of their (relay network system & technological) framework for one reason or another is inherently un-modelled or rather unmoulded - they don't fit the mould.
As the reapers and Legion described when a species discovers and subsequently backwards engineers reaper technology this informs the path of all future technological advancement - you develop along the Reaper technology tree rather than your own and hence your relative level of technological advancement within a given period is likely to be within the expected range - you won't have developed technology that the Reapers haven't already faced before whereas what the reapers don't know will probably kill them. That is uncharted territory to the reapers not the physical space.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Jan 27, 2019 19:22:49 GMT
Wait... you're assuming that the Reapers didn't map those systems? It is also worth noting that the inactivated (i.e., un-discovered, un-networked, disconnected, broken) relay systems did not appear to be affected by the crucible blast.
Any species in any given cycle who may have advanced knowledge of a reaper invasion like we did might disable their own relay to survive. The chances of this not happening since the beginning of recorded time are probably slim to none.
So first off, why do you think those systems are unaffected? From the ending videos, the blasts from the Relays appear to cover the entire Galaxy. I'm sure this was done on purpose by the developers. The second assertion that they could disable a relay is dubious, especially saying that they could do that to the extent a Reaper couldn't reactivate it. It's possible, because the Protheans did it to the relay from Dark Space to the Citadel. But that just delayed their incursion into the Milky Way. Once in the Milky Way, it's obvious the Reapers have the means to travel to those systems without a relay, it's just more "inconvenient".
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 19:32:39 GMT
Wait... you're assuming that the Reapers didn't map those systems? No i'm simply asserting that we have no godly idea what life lies in the inactivated relay systems we don't even have maps for and I suppose it logically follows neither would the reapers. It is also worth noting that the inactivated (i.e., un-discovered, un-networked, disconnected, broken) relay systems did not appear to be affected by the crucible blast.
Any species in any given cycle who may have advanced knowledge of a reaper invasion like we did might disable their own relay to survive. The chances of this not happening since the beginning of recorded time are probably slim to none.
What you could infer as uncharted territory from the perspective of the reapers I suppose is that the Reapers model life but life is shaped by their model - any species who develops outside of their (relay network system & technological) framework for one reason or another is inherently un-modelled or rather unmoulded - they don't fit the mould.
As the reapers and Legion described when a species discovers and subsequently backwards engineers reaper technology this informs the path of all future technological advancement - you develop along the Reaper technology tree rather than your own and hence your relative level of technological advancement within a given period is likely to be within the expected range - you won't have developed technology that the Reapers haven't already faced before whereas what the reapers don't know will probably kill them. That is uncharted territory to the reapers not the physical space.
It's completely illogical to assume that simply because the Council species haven't mapped certain areas of the galaxy that the Reapers haven't either. The Reaper mandate was to basically scour the galaxy for a solution to the synthetic/organic issue and they had many, many cycles in which to accomplish that. So, the only logical conclusion is that the Reapers knew about every species in every corner of the Milky Way.
Also, I really fail to understand why people keep purporting that complete unknowns in the Milky Way are superior to complete unknowns in Andromeda. The unknowns are simply concepts that the devs haven't put to paper yet and they can do exactly the same new species and the same new civilizations, etc. in EITHER galaxy. There is no advantage to staying in the Milky Way. There is the disadvantage of all the lore inconsistencies and baggage that would have to be retconned in order to stay in the Milky Way.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 27, 2019 20:31:44 GMT
It's completely illogical to assume that simply because the Council species haven't mapped certain areas of the galaxy that the Reapers haven't either. The Reaper mandate was to basically scour the galaxy for a solution to the synthetic/organic issue and they had many, many cycles in which to accomplish that. So, the only logical conclusion is that the Reapers knew about every species in every corner of the Milky Way. Also, I really fail to understand why people keep purporting that complete unknowns in the Milky Way are superior to complete unknowns in Andromeda. The unknowns are simply concepts that the devs haven't put to paper yet and they can do exactly the same new species and the same new civilizations, etc. in EITHER galaxy. There is no advantage to staying in the Milky Way. There is the disadvantage of all the lore inconsistencies and baggage that would have to be retconned in order to stay in the Milky Way. [/div][/quote] That's not the only logical conclusion. The galaxy is fraking huge, they I'm sure over the course of billions of years mapped it all out but they aren't scouring the galaxy each cycle. So they probably have no idea about the evolutionary routes of the species in most corners of the galaxy. They wouldn't of had to build the here is our tech trap in if they could and did just scour the entire galaxy every 50.000 years.
your 2nd point I agree with though where the unknown is doesn't make any difference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 22:52:44 GMT
It's completely illogical to assume that simply because the Council species haven't mapped certain areas of the galaxy that the Reapers haven't either. The Reaper mandate was to basically scour the galaxy for a solution to the synthetic/organic issue and they had many, many cycles in which to accomplish that. So, the only logical conclusion is that the Reapers knew about every species in every corner of the Milky Way. Also, I really fail to understand why people keep purporting that complete unknowns in the Milky Way are superior to complete unknowns in Andromeda. The unknowns are simply concepts that the devs haven't put to paper yet and they can do exactly the same new species and the same new civilizations, etc. in EITHER galaxy. There is no advantage to staying in the Milky Way. There is the disadvantage of all the lore inconsistencies and baggage that would have to be retconned in order to stay in the Milky Way. [/div][/quote] That's not the only logical conclusion. The galaxy is fraking huge, they I'm sure over the course of billions of years mapped it all out but they aren't scouring the galaxy each cycle. So they probably have no idea about the evolutionary routes of the species in most corners of the galaxy. They wouldn't of had to build the here is our tech trap in if they could and did just scour the entire galaxy every 50.000 years.
your 2nd point I agree with though where the unknown is doesn't make any difference.
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If, as was suggested above, unknown civilizations destroyed relays... they absolutely have to be space faring in order to have discovered those relays in the first place. Space faring is what, according to lore, differentiates a species that is to be harvested from one that isn't... So, the Reapers would know about them and have them pegged as being ready to harvest. Also, where in the lore does it indicate that the Reapers only search portions of the galaxy? Leviathan simply says that they were directed by the intelligence to "search the galaxy." Where does the lore suggest that between the 50,000-year cycles the Reapers engage in other cycles as different portions of the galaxy becomes space faring at different times. The harvest is consistently portrayed as a galaxy-wide event that occurs every 50,000 years. Each harvest might take a century or more, which could be due to, in part, relays that have been closed or deliberately not opened (since the Council species are said to be reluctant to open up knew relays without knowing where they lead). However, nowhere does the lore suggest that not opening the relays would prevent the Reapers from harvesting the colonies near those still inactive relays.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 27, 2019 23:59:38 GMT
If, as was suggested above, unknown civilizations destroyed relays... they absolutely have to be space faring in order to have discovered those relays in the first place. Space faring is what, according to lore, differentiates a species that is to be harvested from one that isn't... So, the Reapers would know about them and have them pegged as being ready to harvest. Also, where in the lore does it indicate that the Reapers only search portions of the galaxy? Leviathan simply says that they were directed by the intelligence to "search the galaxy." Where does the lore suggest that between the 50,000-year cycles the Reapers engage in other cycles as different portions of the galaxy becomes space faring at different times. The harvest is consistently portrayed as a galaxy-wide event that occurs every 50,000 years. Each harvest might take a century or more, which could be due to, in part, relays that have been closed or deliberately not opened (since the Council species are said to be reluctant to open up knew relays without knowing where they lead). However, nowhere does the lore suggest that not opening the relays would prevent the Reapers from harvesting the colonies near those still inactive relays. [/div][/quote] Just because they are space faring doesn’t mean the reapers would know about them. We don’t know what process the reapers use in their harvest. There are like 100 billion star systems in the galaxy. Who knows how many are capable of supporting life. Whatever it is it is distinctly possible it is out of the reapers capability to search all the stars capable of life every cycle in just a few hundred years. They might be spending the entire 50,000 years just checking out systems. Nowhere in the lore does it suggest anything one way or the other about how they search the galaxy for civilizations not using the relays or if they even try. Characters have guesses, but like we found out throughout the game sometimes people’s guesses about the past were wrong. As I pointed out above, the use of the relays might be a trigger letting them know your system is worth visiting, without it they assume your tech isn’t advanced enough. So yes not turning on or destroying a relay might function like burying your stargate like in stargate sg1. Not 100% protection but frequently stops them from looking in the first place. Given the limited information we have there will be multiple logical possibilities for it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 1:56:02 GMT
If, as was suggested above, unknown civilizations destroyed relays... they absolutely have to be space faring in order to have discovered those relays in the first place. Space faring is what, according to lore, differentiates a species that is to be harvested from one that isn't... So, the Reapers would know about them and have them pegged as being ready to harvest. Also, where in the lore does it indicate that the Reapers only search portions of the galaxy? Leviathan simply says that they were directed by the intelligence to "search the galaxy." Where does the lore suggest that between the 50,000-year cycles the Reapers engage in other cycles as different portions of the galaxy becomes space faring at different times. The harvest is consistently portrayed as a galaxy-wide event that occurs every 50,000 years. Each harvest might take a century or more, which could be due to, in part, relays that have been closed or deliberately not opened (since the Council species are said to be reluctant to open up knew relays without knowing where they lead). However, nowhere does the lore suggest that not opening the relays would prevent the Reapers from harvesting the colonies near those still inactive relays. [/div][/quote] Just because they are space faring doesn’t mean the reapers would know about them. We don’t know what process the reapers use in their harvest. There are like 100 billion star systems in the galaxy. Who knows how many are capable of supporting life. Whatever it is it is distinctly possible it is out of the reapers capability to search all the stars capable of life every cycle in just a few hundred years. They might be spending the entire 50,000 years just checking out systems. Nowhere in the lore does it suggest anything one way or the other about how they search the galaxy for civilizations not using the relays or if they even try. Characters have guesses, but like we found out throughout the game sometimes people’s guesses about the past were wrong. As I pointed out above, the use of the relays might be a trigger letting them know your system is worth visiting, without it they assume your tech isn’t advanced enough. So yes not turning on or destroying a relay might function like burying your stargate like in stargate sg1. Not 100% protection but frequently stops them from looking in the first place.
Given the limited information we have there will be multiple logical possibilities for it to be. [/quote][/div]
Firstly, what the frick is going on with the quotes on this site? I've bolded the last line of my quoting you to differentiate it from the beginning of my reply...
True, anything can be retconned further. The lore in the MET is a mess anyways. It is the disadvantage to returning the franchise to the Milky Way that I mentioned before. At least Andromeda escapes most of that... no messy Reaper mess to clean up. New species can be whatever Bioware can imagine... as advanced as they want to make them without having to "justify" how they managed to escape being harvested.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 28, 2019 4:26:58 GMT
Just because they are space faring doesn’t mean the reapers would know about them. We don’t know what process the reapers use in their harvest. There are like 100 billion star systems in the galaxy. Who knows how many are capable of supporting life. Whatever it is it is distinctly possible it is out of the reapers capability to search all the stars capable of life every cycle in just a few hundred years. They might be spending the entire 50,000 years just checking out systems. Nowhere in the lore does it suggest anything one way or the other about how they search the galaxy for civilizations not using the relays or if they even try. Characters have guesses, but like we found out throughout the game sometimes people’s guesses about the past were wrong. As I pointed out above, the use of the relays might be a trigger letting them know your system is worth visiting, without it they assume your tech isn’t advanced enough. So yes not turning on or destroying a relay might function like burying your stargate like in stargate sg1. Not 100% protection but frequently stops them from looking in the first place. Given the limited information we have there will be multiple logical possibilities for it to be. Firstly, what the frick is going on with the quotes on this site? I've bolded the last line of my quoting you to differentiate it from the beginning of my reply... True, anything can be retconned further. The lore in the MET is a mess anyways. It is the disadvantage to returning the franchise to the Milky Way that I mentioned before. At least Andromeda escapes most of that... no messy Reaper mess to clean up. New species can be whatever Bioware can imagine... as advanced as they want to make them without having to "justify" how they managed to escape being harvested. There is a problem with the boards adding a div function that messes everything up. You have to manually go in and remove them and the extra end quotes it creates to fix it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2019 14:53:53 GMT
[/div][/quote] Just because they are space faring doesn’t mean the reapers would know about them. We don’t know what process the reapers use in their harvest. There are like 100 billion star systems in the galaxy. Who knows how many are capable of supporting life. Whatever it is it is distinctly possible it is out of the reapers capability to search all the stars capable of life every cycle in just a few hundred years. They might be spending the entire 50,000 years just checking out systems. Nowhere in the lore does it suggest anything one way or the other about how they search the galaxy for civilizations not using the relays or if they even try. Characters have guesses, but like we found out throughout the game sometimes people’s guesses about the past were wrong. As I pointed out above, the use of the relays might be a trigger letting them know your system is worth visiting, without it they assume your tech isn’t advanced enough. So yes not turning on or destroying a relay might function like burying your stargate like in stargate sg1. Not 100% protection but frequently stops them from looking in the first place.
Given the limited information we have there will be multiple logical possibilities for it to be. [/quote][/div]
Firstly, what the frick is going on with the quotes on this site? I've bolded the last line of my quoting you to differentiate it from the beginning of my reply...
True, anything can be retconned further. The lore in the MET is a mess anyways. It is the disadvantage to returning the franchise to the Milky Way that I mentioned before. At least Andromeda escapes most of that... no messy Reaper mess to clean up. New species can be whatever Bioware can imagine... as advanced as they want to make them without having to "justify" how they managed to escape being harvested.
[/quote]I think it's pretty clear that BW never intended to return to the MW. They story was that Reapers were coming to destroy the galaxy. Shepard had to rally everyone to fight them. Then you either succeed or allow the galaxy to be overrun. RGB furthered that idea by removing any possibility of using the setting again. Sure, fans seem to want it but that's a separate issue from the intent to end the trilogy. [I'm on an app so quoting selections isn't an option.]
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Post by ahglock on Jan 28, 2019 16:17:36 GMT
I don’t think BioWare intended to return to Mass Effect at all. Me3 ended in a big I’m taking my toys and going home mode. I’m guessing that EA told them to grow up and get back to it as it’s too big of a property to just drop.
Once they were at that point they did the best they could and went with another galaxy because it would be hard to stay in the same galaxy without dealing with the endings. I further suspect they went with magic drives and a 600 year journey so that if they ever returned to the MW they’d have a big enough time gap to work around picking a canon ending.
While they could have done the same story in the MW just as easily hand waving why the magic RBG wave didn’t hit them and reapers didn’t find them as they hand waved magic drives. But then they’d be stuck with all the why don’t I just fly over and see what happened questions. Though it might have been a interesting twist if it was 2 generations later with mythology explaining why you don’t check on things. A there be dragons over there story as the leaders want to wait 400+ years for the reapers to go away before they check on things. But unless they are returning to old haunts being in the MW has no value over andromeda.
End of the day they went with MEA so it’s in a too late for that point. Dropping that and starting a new MW story would just be weird at this point. Though I guess they could start with a 600 years later in the MW story about them trying to reconnect with the andromeda initiative. With a 3rd game bring about how contact endangers the MW with the kett and or whoever created the scourge.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 28, 2019 19:52:18 GMT
what new factions do you guys want if they did a New Milk Way Mass Effect Game?
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Post by ahglock on Jan 28, 2019 19:55:21 GMT
what new factions do you guys want if they did a New Milk Way Mass Effect Game? I don’t want that but if they did I’d turn allied races into antagonists as the galaxy attempts to rebuild and other cultures try to assert total dominance.
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Post by Phantom on Jan 28, 2019 20:22:05 GMT
what new factions do you guys want if they did a New Milk Way Mass Effect Game? I don’t want that but if they did I’d turn allied races into antagonists as the galaxy attempts to rebuild and other cultures try to assert total dominance. Yeah, I do see where you are coming from. And I like your idea. Also Any New Faction should use species we know like the Turians and Asari while introducing something new. I would love to see a ME3 Remake that sets up a New Player Character that goes into a Post Reaper War with A possible Harvest that the New Player Character has to deal with. Of course there will be a Boss Battle with the Harbringer. Of course that Reapers would be using the Asari and their Siari Religion to cull the Masses into worshipping the Reaper and making the Harvest complete.
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Post by ahglock on Jan 28, 2019 20:40:50 GMT
I don’t want that but if they did I’d turn allied races into antagonists as the galaxy attempts to rebuild and other cultures try to assert total dominance. Yeah, I do see where you are coming from. And I like your idea. Also Any New Faction should use species we know like the Turians and Asari while introducing something new. I would love to see a ME3 Remake that sets up a New Player Character that goes into a Post Reaper War with A possible Harvest that the New Player Character has to deal with. Of course there will be a Boss Battle with the Harbringer. Of course that Reapers would be using the Asari and their Siari Religion to cull the Masses into worshipping the Reaper and making the Harvest complete. I always thought a mass effect survival horror game either set during the reaper invasion or post either refuse or low/mid ems destroy would be a fun side game. So I kind of dig that idea. The reapers may be dead but maybe their husks/monsters aren’t. Indoctrination may still be a thing either from people already indoctrinated or from reaper remains.
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Yeah, I do see where you are coming from. And I like your idea. Also Any New Faction should use species we know like the Turians and Asari while introducing something new. I would love to see a ME3 Remake that sets up a New Player Character that goes into a Post Reaper War with A possible Harvest that the New Player Character has to deal with. Of course there will be a Boss Battle with the Harbringer. Of course that Reapers would be using the Asari and their Siari Religion to cull the Masses into worshipping the Reaper and making the Harvest complete. I always thought a mass effect survival horror game either set during the reaper invasion or post either refuse or low/mid ems destroy would be a fun side game. So I kind of dig that idea. The reapers may be dead but maybe their husks/monsters aren’t. Indoctrination may still be a thing either from people already indoctrinated or from reaper remains. Not for me.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 8, 2019 0:42:26 GMT
I could think of several storylines ranging from a race that comes out of one of the unexplored regions of the galaxy and come to conquer a very weakened galaxy. Given that humans live longer in the ME universe you could even use alot of the same characters and set it twenty years in the future after some rebuilding and perhaps fixing SOME of the mass relays. You could even include shepard since he is only thirty something now and considering how much of him is cybernatic you gotta wonder how well he would heal and how long he lives.
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Post by Phantom on Mar 8, 2019 1:32:28 GMT
If there is a Post Reaper War Mass Effect Milk Way Mass Effect game, Whom shall be a Player Character would take the Lead? How would you deal with the Endings Tasteful with your New Player Character?
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 8, 2019 15:06:18 GMT
I'd love to see the Leviathan become a major threat with the Reapers out of the way. A multi-species coalition would have to form to deal with them. I can imagine some outliers believing they could go at it on their own. We might have an entire race indoctrinated by those spheres the Leviathan use. Lots of potential for factions here.
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Post by kalreegar on Mar 8, 2019 17:37:30 GMT
it's one the best sci-fi lore ever + it's entire huge fu**** galaxy... a team of writers should be truly incompetent not to find something interesting to tell.
(btw, sadly they very are incompetent right now, thus andromenda failure)
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 8, 2019 21:45:42 GMT
I'd love to see the Leviathan become a major threat with the Reapers out of the way. A multi-species coalition would have to form to deal with them. I can imagine some outliers believing they could go at it on their own. We might have an entire race indoctrinated by those spheres the Leviathan use. Lots of potential for factions here. I have a hard time believing those are the only leviathans left. Given how intent they were on surviving I have to wonder if some would just stay isolated from the others in order to ensure survival. The ones who did that would essentially be completely hidden and thus control armies of slaves while being safe from the people they are fighting. Kind of like how the illusive man was able to remain hidden for so long. There is just so much potential. Given the massive amount of rebuilding and loss of life the galaxy felt it would truly be hard to fight them.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 8, 2019 21:53:31 GMT
it's one the best sci-fi lore ever + it's entire huge fu**** galaxy... a team of writers should be truly incompetent not to find something interesting to tell. (btw, sadly they very are incompetent right now, thus andromenda failure) I don't think they are incompetent to be honest. However on your other point about so many stories to tell I agree. I don't understand how people can say there are no other stories in the milky way.
Off the top of my head here is one idea.
Twenty years later after the survivors of the reaper wars were able to fix the mass relays (that weren't as damaged as they thought) and just start to truly rebuild we see an enemy like the rachni or like how the protheans were according to javik and the survivors are once again forced to fight or become slaves to them. And they have shepard to lead the fight again. Remember given how much cybernetics are in shepard and the fact he is only thirty and humans live to be a hundred and fifty in the ME universe it is easily possible for shepard to stiil be able to fight. And bring most of his crew too or a new one.
However to be fair if it's the control ending then this can't be done since the reapers would massacre any foe. So either destroy or synthesis for this scenario (obviously shepard dies in synthesis so he wouldn't be in it in that case.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 9, 2019 5:04:02 GMT
I'd love to see the Leviathan become a major threat with the Reapers out of the way. A multi-species coalition would have to form to deal with them. I can imagine some outliers believing they could go at it on their own. We might have an entire race indoctrinated by those spheres the Leviathan use. Lots of potential for factions here. I have a hard time believing those are the only leviathans left. Given how intent they were on surviving I have to wonder if some would just stay isolated from the others in order to ensure survival. The ones who did that would essentially be completely hidden and thus control armies of slaves while being safe from the people they are fighting. Kind of like how the illusive man was able to remain hidden for so long. There is just so much potential. Given the massive amount of rebuilding and loss of life the galaxy felt it would truly be hard to fight them. Yes, and it's a threat of major proportions. Not like the Reapers, who were trying to exterminate us, but more like what Saren thought we'd have: life as slaves. Shepard wouldn't accept that any neither should anyone else. That would be one hell of a fight.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 9, 2019 5:15:15 GMT
I have a hard time believing those are the only leviathans left. Given how intent they were on surviving I have to wonder if some would just stay isolated from the others in order to ensure survival. The ones who did that would essentially be completely hidden and thus control armies of slaves while being safe from the people they are fighting. Kind of like how the illusive man was able to remain hidden for so long. There is just so much potential. Given the massive amount of rebuilding and loss of life the galaxy felt it would truly be hard to fight them. Yes, and it's a threat of major proportions. Not like the Reapers, who were trying to exterminate us, but more like what Saren thought we'd have: life as slaves. Shepard wouldn't accept that any neither should anyone else. That would be one hell of a fight. It's a good thing Shepard's sacrifice gave the galaxy an ally with the Reapers then, huh?
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 9, 2019 7:52:49 GMT
Yes, and it's a threat of major proportions. Not like the Reapers, who were trying to exterminate us, but more like what Saren thought we'd have: life as slaves. Shepard wouldn't accept that any neither should anyone else. That would be one hell of a fight. It's a good thing Shepard's sacrifice gave the galaxy an ally with the Reapers then, huh? I'm literally not sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting the Leviathan are allies? They are not. They were forced to fight the Reapers to save themselves but that in no way suggests that was a permanent alliance. If that is what you were trying to say then I have to say I think it's entirely inaccurate.
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