Do you think peoples animosity towards Anthem's gameplay loop is due to a misunderstanding of the lo

You just have to experience Mass Effect 3 multiplayer to find a combination of some maps some kits and some secret sauce being awesome.

If Anthem captures that 'feel' we're good.

Watching is not playing.

It's just another boring MP shooter. From the company like BioWare people expect something more.

Honestly I think the examples you used could be applied to just about every game being released these days. I don't really see it changing too much either until we get another big leap technology wise.

In the end I think most of the griping is no more than a bunch of bored people posting on a game, that they probably weren't interested in, and had no intention of playing from the start. Throw in the SJW's with an agenda and games like ME Andromeda don't stand a chance. Hopefully it won't effect Anthem to the same extent because for what it is, it looks really good.

I have a neutral stance on looter shooters, played The Division for a few months and Warframe extensively for about a year. But Anthem is the game Mass Effect died for, so to win me over emotionally it has to be almost pitch perfect (which it won't be).

The only reason why I am even considering Anthem is because I have been looking for a new game for quite some time now, and there is nothing in the pipeline in the foreseeable future either. So maybe Anthem can tide me over (playing it casually) until Cyberpunk 2077 releases.

Personally I think the big problem with this game is that at it's core it is still a looter shooter. As much as they try to rant in great detail about all the ways this game is different, the core gameplay loop is still exactly the same as Destiny, and will end up giving people the same kind of Destiny vibe. All of the things that they talk about which sets this game apart are, for me at least, more like gimmicks or frosting. It's just an added shiny layer over the same core mechanic.

None of this is a bad thing, to be honest. A good game is a good game, but the problem is if the game experience isn't distinct enough there will be far less incentive to switch over. In other words, if you're getting the same kind of enjoyment out of Anthem as you do out of Destiny, why bother switching over when you already invested more time and effort into Destiny? This is why people make the kind of statements you mentioned. Because at its core they've seen this kind of gameplay before.

This isn't limited to looter shooters, on the contrary the exact same thing happened to pretty much every popular game genre in existence. It's where we got WoW clones, and Battle Royale games, and every gaming fad throughout history. And every time what it comes down to is developers making a game experience that's too similar to what's been done before out of a misguided attempt to duplicate another's success, which only leads to failure as people have no incentive to play the new game since it provides the same experience to what they already have.

This is why I think that the most important thing for Anthem is to focus more on what it does different. To me that's the story and characters, that's what they need to develop add more of.

The problem is that there's so many CoD babies and Destiny expats in the Anthem fan circles right now that keep asking for things from the games they already play thinking it will make Anthem better. That might help with parts of the game, like some of the gunplay elements, but the game as a whole will just become more like what's already out there, and ultimately will make it less and less appealing as it fails to stand out from the crowd.

hawkspian Because Mass Effect died for this.

Mass effect isn't dead. Not for me anyway. And if this combines mass effect story with Warframe/destiny gameplay and longevity then I'll be one happy gamer. Been and had a shower, come back and still can't get in though.

I just meant the script and such, not the hours of conversations. From what I've seen, the cut scenes look good. Not too sure about the fortnight voice acting though 🤔

I expect Dead Space 4 imminently!  After all, that franchise isn't dead either according to EA

It's a game inside a genre that lives and dies by how good it's gameplay is, and how well tuned overall loot progression and availability of group content is, from a developer whose traditional main drawing points to quite a lot of people have been anything but that.

There were always going to be dissidents to such a drastic genre shift for Bioware regardless of what the quality of that loot-shooter game may end up being.

And EA knows what they are doing.

By having the VIP demo go first, it allows for a positive perception and word of mouth to develop because the VIP demo is already made up of people who have been convinced and want to buy it.

The open demo will be the wild west with no law or filters. Hell, even I will play the open demo. Once that begins, the floodgates will open and will have to deal with that leading up to launch. It also does not help Anthem that shortly after the open demo....The Division 2 demo begins and D2 is already getting positive buzz, even more so than Anthem. Gamers are really impressed by how much Ubisoft improved the game over the first. So if D2 demo is highly successful compounded with the marketing blitz for D2, that could really affect the hype and buildup for Anthem in the final weeks.

Then a few weeks after Anthem launches, D2 launches and Anthem could (and will) see a large drop in player count.