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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 20, 2020 21:52:04 GMT
Steve is a gay man that fits within Mass Effect believably. Also I do consider him to very likable as well. I do want to Bioware to see why he fits believably in Mass Effect and go from there for future Mass Effect games I like Cortez. He's a good guy. If a trilogy remake were to happen, it wouldn't be hard to have him, and Samantha Traynor, another good character, in all 3 games. So long as Samantha doesn't take Kelly's place.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 20, 2020 23:45:55 GMT
After reading many ideas about rebooting Mass Effect all I can say is thank god most of you aren’t writers working at BioWare or really any game company, or really any entertainment company. Hey, if you have any better ideas I love to hear them. Here’s an idea, don’t reboot a franchise that’s only 13 years old.
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Post by cloud9 on May 21, 2020 3:19:39 GMT
Hey, if you have any better ideas I love to hear them. Here’s an idea, don’t reboot a franchise that’s only 13 years old. Then why are you even on the post, if you don't have ideas that are better than others?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 4:05:31 GMT
After reading many ideas about rebooting Mass Effect all I can say is thank god most of you aren’t writers working at BioWare or really any game company, or really any entertainment company. I read about that one Mass Effect "super fan" who basically rewrote ME3 in his own image.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 21, 2020 13:39:07 GMT
Here’s an idea, don’t reboot a franchise that’s only 13 years old. Then why are you even on the post, if you don't have ideas that are better than others? I have a better idea, don’t reboot a 13 year old franchise it’s in the post you quoted, you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 21, 2020 14:28:26 GMT
After reading many ideas about rebooting Mass Effect all I can say is thank god most of you aren’t writers working at BioWare or really any game company, or really any entertainment company. I read about that one Mass Effect "super fan" who basically rewrote ME3 in his own image. "Good boy Vega. That's exactly what I needed" Thank you Bioware, for being actual professionals... thank you so much
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Post by Phantom on May 21, 2020 18:13:32 GMT
Well I am liking this due to it is Simpsons. I am still a fan not as hard core but still a fan.
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Post by cloud9 on May 21, 2020 20:28:24 GMT
Then why are you even on the post, if you don't have ideas that are better than others? I have a better idea, don’t reboot a 13 year old franchise it’s in the post you quoted, you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. Or maybe you couldn't come up with an idea that is better than anyone. And you just resort to insults, because you don't have the answer to a simple question.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 21, 2020 20:38:14 GMT
I have a better idea, don’t reboot a 13 year old franchise it’s in the post you quoted, you seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. Or maybe you couldn't come up with an idea that is better than anyone. And you just resort to insults, because you don't have the answer to a simple question. For the third time my idea is that there is no need for a reboot, and there were no insults I merely stated that you have a reading comprehension problem which would be quite clear to anyone following this conversation.
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Post by cloud9 on May 22, 2020 5:17:02 GMT
Hey, if you have any better ideas I love to hear them. Here’s an idea, don’t reboot a franchise that’s only 13 years old. Just say that you can't come up with any ideas and move on.
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Post by FireAndBlood on May 22, 2020 10:35:07 GMT
Here’s an idea, don’t reboot a franchise that’s only 13 years old. Just say that you can't come up with any ideas and move on. Okay fine, I can’t come up with a shitty idea to reboot a 13 year old franchise.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 22, 2020 17:14:45 GMT
Yeah, needless to say that rebooting the franchise from the beginning is simply a terrible idea. It would just be a huge checklist of how many flaws the team can retroactively try to correct in a new product for sale. Then there's the Catch 22 with the story itself. You'll never recapture that moment where the scope of the major threat is expanded in the turning point of ME1, but avoiding it altogether and coming up with something new while trying to recycle as many familiar characters as possible introduces its own host of problems. I say either abandon it or move forward. I'd hate for Mass Effect to get the Star Trek treatment.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 22, 2020 18:45:47 GMT
Yeah, needless to say that rebooting the franchise from the beginning is simply a terrible idea. It would just be a huge checklist of how many flaws the team can retroactively try to correct in a new product for sale. Then there's the Catch 22 with the story itself. You'll never recapture that moment where the scope of the major threat is expanded in the turning point of ME1, but avoiding it altogether and coming up with something new while trying to recycle as many familiar characters as possible introduces its own host of problems. I say either abandon it or move forward. I'd hate for Mass Effect to get the Star Trek treatment. I disagree with a reboot... though not with a remake. I think the Resident Evil 2 remake is an excellent example of great success when it comes to re-telling the same story. Imagine playing the same ME1 story with better gameplay and better graphics than MEA. I sure as hell can't say no to that.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 23, 2020 3:33:10 GMT
Yeah, needless to say that rebooting the franchise from the beginning is simply a terrible idea. It would just be a huge checklist of how many flaws the team can retroactively try to correct in a new product for sale. Then there's the Catch 22 with the story itself. You'll never recapture that moment where the scope of the major threat is expanded in the turning point of ME1, but avoiding it altogether and coming up with something new while trying to recycle as many familiar characters as possible introduces its own host of problems. I say either abandon it or move forward. I'd hate for Mass Effect to get the Star Trek treatment. I disagree with a reboot... though not with a remake. I think the Resident Evil 2 remake is an excellent example of great success when it comes to re-telling the same story. Imagine playing the same ME1 story with better gameplay and better graphics than MEA. I sure as hell can't say no to that. Personally, I’m not interested in BioWare squandering production costs on retelling the same story. If I’m going to just pay for the same story again, I’d prefer that EA/BioWare just outsource to a third party to beef up the original trilogy so I don’t wait a year or so in between each title to get the next chapter. The prospect of playing ME1 with an improved combat system sounds grand, but if I’m really weighing my options here, I’d rather have a new story and go forward in the universe. With something like Resident Evil, I honestly couldn’t care less about what happens in the universe the game revolves around or whatever time’s passed, but Mass Effect doesn’t work like that for me. I actually care that it moved forward, and would prefer it stayed there. Would I buy a remake? Probably. I don’t buy many games and anything I get going forward will be RPG’s, of which there are so few of any interest right now. But right now, I’d rather they didn’t bother.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2020 8:16:17 GMT
People should be less fragile when consuming media. Lets writers write what they want to write about. If it's a real issue for you, then maybe don't buy the game, or even just ignore the quests and characters in question(or consult a therapist). They think these games are a consumer product. So they believe the writers and people making the game have to pander to their customers desires, instead of giving the producers of the game freedom to create whatever product and story they wish. If they don't, they'll go out of business, because no one will buy their games, since it's not what the consumer wants in a game. Games are not made to order like Harvey's or McDonalds. They are mass produced, cookie cutter, and have limited options to express control of the PC you are roleplaying as.
In the case of Mass Effect, some even believe they are the co-creators of the franchise with Bioware, because Bioware literally said so. Verbally, that may be true. They do take our feedback to improve on their future products.
However, that does not mean Bioware has 50% creative control and the customer has the other 50%.
Also, legally, this franchise is owned by Bioware/EA. The customer who spent $60 has essentially bought a license to use their game. The $60 pays for the license key, not the actual content. So it gives people access. A lot of software is like this. Back in the day, you could download an ISO of Microsoft Office from Microsoft's site. However, in order to actually use it, you needed to purchase a license key in order to unlock access to the software. That's what you're paying for, access.
It's just like the DLC thing. Just because it's on the disc doesn't mean you can have it. Since it's a separate license key.
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Post by Psychevore on May 23, 2020 9:50:26 GMT
Hmm.
I would largely follow the original story, just remove some inconsistencies (the whole Tali story in ME1 for instance, cause what she does in the time it takes Shepard to go from Eden Prime to the Citadel is pure time magic) and overhaul the entire trilogy with ME:A's combat system, but with fixed classes. And make some choices have more weight, like what happens to the Council in ME1.
And possibly make winning against the Reapers impossible, so I guess I'd scratch ME3 entirely, even though it's my favorite of the series. Just make the last game entirely about preparing the next cycle for a possible victory and hiding the current cycle species somewhere in the galaxy to wait out the culling. That way you're nicely set up for ME4 in the same galaxy, with the same species and some new ones.
My reasoning for making victory impossible is simply that it should be so. They are simply too strong, too numerous and most importantly, they are already here. Nothing was done in ME1 and ME2 to prepare for the Reapers and if they even had, they only had a few years to do so, but they entirely did not. Even though I think the Crucible is fantastic, damn near poetically beautiful (it being a weapon devised by countless species who never even met each other, over the course of billions of years), it's also too easy and convenient.
ME4 can then be about discovering the existence of and finding the Catalyst before the Reapers's return.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 23, 2020 13:59:57 GMT
Personally, I’m not interested in BioWare squandering production costs on retelling the same story. If I’m going to just pay for the same story again, I’d prefer that EA/BioWare just outsource to a third party to beef up the original trilogy so I don’t wait a year or so in between each title to get the next chapter. I think this is more than reasonable. Studios like Beamdog and Nightdive have demonstrated that good games can be updated to modern systems very well. Above all other considerations, Bioware needs to move forward and invest in new ideas.
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Post by Sanunes on May 24, 2020 16:00:37 GMT
Yeah, needless to say that rebooting the franchise from the beginning is simply a terrible idea. It would just be a huge checklist of how many flaws the team can retroactively try to correct in a new product for sale. Then there's the Catch 22 with the story itself. You'll never recapture that moment where the scope of the major threat is expanded in the turning point of ME1, but avoiding it altogether and coming up with something new while trying to recycle as many familiar characters as possible introduces its own host of problems. I say either abandon it or move forward. I'd hate for Mass Effect to get the Star Trek treatment. I disagree with a reboot... though not with a remake. I think the Resident Evil 2 remake is an excellent example of great success when it comes to re-telling the same story. Imagine playing the same ME1 story with better gameplay and better graphics than MEA. I sure as hell can't say no to that. I don't think they are a good comparison. Just because Resident Evil 2 is a good example of a remake, it doesn't mean the reasons why it worked would work for Mass Effect. Resident Evil 2 gameplay was outdated to the point of not being playable, but Mass Effect still is playable and follows most of the current modern expectations. Mass Effect for me (and I would guess) a bunch of people is more about the story then the gameplay, but its the opposite for Resident Evil for you can go on large swaths of Resident Evil and not have anything to do with the story, but Mass Effect the story was always present. There are too many differences just to say that Resident Evil 2 worked and therefore Mass Effect would work as well.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 24, 2020 16:10:03 GMT
I don't think they are a good comparison. Just because Resident Evil 2 is a good example of a remake, it doesn't mean the reasons why it worked would work for Mass Effect. Resident Evil 2 gameplay was outdated to the point of not being playable, but Mass Effect still is playable and follows most of the current modern expectations. Mass Effect for me (and I would guess) a bunch of people is more about the story then the gameplay, but its the opposite for Resident Evil for you can go on large swaths of Resident Evil and not have anything to do with the story, but Mass Effect the story was always present. There are too many differences just to say that Resident Evil 2 worked and therefore Mass Effect would work as well. I think this is very fair criticism. Though I would contest a bit, however, that the original Resident Evil 2 is unplayable. You can play incredibly smooth and functional emulated versions of the game that still work very well to this day, perfectly translated, with great controls and even with graphics that are adapted to current resolutions. But I do agree that the story, as a central component, should probably not be tampered with in ANY game of the trilogy. I think a complex remaster with new mechanics and gameplay expansions would deffinitely be the better way to go.
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Post by Sanunes on May 24, 2020 16:54:51 GMT
I don't think they are a good comparison. Just because Resident Evil 2 is a good example of a remake, it doesn't mean the reasons why it worked would work for Mass Effect. Resident Evil 2 gameplay was outdated to the point of not being playable, but Mass Effect still is playable and follows most of the current modern expectations. Mass Effect for me (and I would guess) a bunch of people is more about the story then the gameplay, but its the opposite for Resident Evil for you can go on large swaths of Resident Evil and not have anything to do with the story, but Mass Effect the story was always present. There are too many differences just to say that Resident Evil 2 worked and therefore Mass Effect would work as well. I think this is very fair criticism. Though I would contest a bit, however, that the original Resident Evil 2 is unplayable. You can play incredibly smooth and functional emulated versions of the game that still work very well to this day, perfectly translated, with great controls and even with graphics that are adapted to current resolutions. But I do agree that the story, as a central component, should probably not be tampered with in ANY game of the trilogy. I think a complex remaster with new mechanics and gameplay expansions would deffinitely be the better way to go. What I talk about when people talk about Resident Evil 2 being unplayable are things like the tank controls and how the camera works. Those two points I saw a lot over the years when it came to people asking for a remake of it so they could find it a more enjoyable experience.
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Post by themikefest on May 27, 2020 14:16:35 GMT
I would largely follow the original story, just remove some inconsistencies (the whole Tali story in ME1 for instance, cause what she does in the time it takes Shepard to go from Eden Prime to the Citadel is pure time magic) and overhaul the entire trilogy with ME:A's combat system, but with fixed classes. And make some choices have more weight, like what happens to the Council in ME1. Regards to Tali, I first would remove the scene with Garrus talking to his boss. When talking to the council the first time, the council will mention they're waiting results from C-sec's investigation. After talking with them, Udina tells Shepard that there have been reports of geth near Feros, who happen to have lost comms. It would be a good spot to find possible evidence against Saren. The mission plays out the same except Shiala is brought back to tell the council what she told Shepard. Back on the Citadel, Udina suggests Shepard look for more clues that will help their case against Saren while he goes over the information from Shiala before talking with the council. Shepard meets up with Garrus. Later recruits Wrex, then meets Tali who tells what information she has. The council strips Saren of his spectre status, Shiala becomes a squadmate and Shepard becomes a spectre. With the council, I would always have them survive. I would keep the possiblity of defeating the reapers within the trilogy. A few things I would change in ME2 would be Shepard isn't killed at the beginning. She/he only suffers a few bumps and bruises. For the next couple of years, Shepard uses a shuttle to search for any clue to stopping the reapers. While on the Citadel, Shepard encounters Miranda Lawson who mentions the colonist abductions that the Allaince is ignoring. She evens brings Shepard to Freedoms Progress to see for him/herself. After that, Shepard talks with Anderson who admits the Alliance isn't doing anything. The Alliance doesn't favor Shepard working with Cerberus, but they also agree that something has to be done. One thing that can change is Legions loyalty mission. It tells Shepard about the geth telescope and that the heretics are modifying it to be used as a weapon against organics. Shepard could face the choice of destroying the telescope or reprogramming it to not be used as a weapon. It would also be a good opprtunity to use it to see where the reaper might be in darkspace. The plans are found in ME2. After learning the great rift was created by a giant weapon, Shepard can complete a side mission involved with investigating that weapon. The plans are found. ME3 would be nearly the same except Leviathan would be part of the main missions, and the ending would be Hacketts ending. What Hackett's ending is what he said to Shepard after the coup. The people working on the crucible believe it has enough energy to destroy the reapers. A few moments after Shepard passes out in front of the console, and the arms to the Citadel are fully opened, the crucible fires destroying the reapers. Going by what I posted above, that would be Shepard's primary mission. In the hospital, Shepard tells Hackett that he/she did not encounter the intelligence Leviathan spoke of. Hackett tells Shepard that will be the focus of the next mission, to find this intelligence and destroy it. While doing that, make sure there are no more reapers remaining. Something that I've mentioned that could be an ME4 taking place after the events of ME3
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Post by KaiserShep on May 29, 2020 14:29:28 GMT
Shiala would just get rewritten to be Liara with an overhaul.
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Post by Phantom on May 29, 2020 18:03:17 GMT
Shiala would just get rewritten to be Liara with an overhaul. if that would happen, you will make many fans happy while bugging the shit out of Liaramancers(some people thinks that is a good idea in and of itself)
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 29, 2020 18:26:42 GMT
Shiala would just get rewritten to be Liara with an overhaul. if that would happen, you will make many fans happy while bugging the shit out of Liaramancers(some people thinks that is a good idea in and of itself) It is not a good idea.... .... .... .... .... It's a GREAT idea! 😈
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