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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 19, 2020 18:58:06 GMT
Liberati are part of the soporati class. Soporati is just the common non-magical citizens. Liberati are just soporati who were once slaves, compared to others like Krem who were born soporati. Oh a subclass! Okay, got it. Thank you!
According to World of Thedas there is a difference between the two. Soporati are not mages but they are citizens and as a result have certain privileges denied to the Liberati (just like Ancient Rome). So the Liberati are a sub-class but with limited rights compared with the true Soporati. I would imagine that just like Ancient Rome if you are born a slave or Liberati you remain a non citizen and so do your children. However, in Ancient Rome it was possible to purchase or be sponsored for citizenship so may be the same is true of Tevinter. Thus if someone was being promised the rank of Soporati as a slave, that meant they would not only be liberated but citizenship would be purchased for them. In Ancient Rome once you were a citizen, then your children would be too. Again, may be the same applies in Tevinter.
Note: I believe the same holds true for Liberati mages. They can only be regarded as Laetans class if citizenship has been purchased. Otherwise they remain non-citizens who happen to be able to do magic.
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Post by devotionage on Mar 20, 2020 5:00:42 GMT
Review for Issue #3 Really liked what was done with Vaea and Francesca. Vaea as the stable comic relief. Francesca offing her father with the same magic he mocked. Really good writing there, esp with the panel where they hug. Fenris felt fleshed out, with both growth and flaws that I found believable. And of course his Autumn moments were adorable Shirallas was an unexpected surprise antagonist that I liked; his descent into coveting power is really interesting. I'm really invested in what will happen to him and what his backstory is, and whether he'll get a redemption arc or not. Issues I found with the comic was that it wasn't stapled properly for one page. Don't know if this is the place to bring that up. Writing wise I also found that it was too rushed and busy with the many groups it included. Tessa, Marius and Calix were dead weight and barely used. IMO it should have just been Francesca, Fenris, Autumn, Vaea (with Ser Aaron) as the main group to focus on. Fenris also didn't really feel like the main character here either, it was more like Francesca. But all in all I really liked this comic series. It was so good seeing the gang and Fenris again. Edit: Also noticed Fenris used 'markings' to describe his tattoos.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Mar 24, 2020 14:47:10 GMT
For those interested in how the artifact looks: Here's some more from issue #2 and #3:
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Mar 24, 2020 19:28:15 GMT
Well, that begs for a follow up. Hopefully we can get one more in the next year or two. Looking at the release pattern so far, a new series comes out about 13 months after the previous one finished so I if that continues it would start April 2021. Though it could be earlier if they worked on that one alongside this one since they seem more dependent on each other (like same villain) than Knight Errant and Deception. I can't confirm anything, but the ending here makes our plans to continue pretty clear. Nothing is official yet, least of all a release date. But it hopefully won't be nearly as long as last time. Probably my favorite panel in the chapter. Such a powerful moment with my two favorite characters. This moment was so important to us when we wrote it, and when the artwork came in, and Fernando nailed the emotions so perfectly, that's when we cried. There is very little in life as satisfying as having a collaborator get what you're going for perfectly, and then taking it to another level. The writers put a lot of thought into all different aspects of these comics, chars, storylines. For instance, even Aaron's horse has a backstory. As proud parents of a rescue dog, we believe every animal has a backstory. And we wanted to make the animals in this miniseries characters in their own right. Obviously that's mostly for Autumn, but the horses needed to be characters too. Holy shiiiit yesssss there is a group of elves wandering in the Dales/Emerald Graves who have awesome magic, didn't mind human Aaron hanging with them for a bit, and have dreams of restarting the Emerald Knights!!! This concept is amazing and is pretty much everything I've ever wanted lol, god bless u guys ahhh. This band of elves sound so cool and intrepid, I would kill for an Emerald Knights spinoff, I really hope BioWare let this happen. LET THIS HAPPEN BIOWARE (and by these specific writers pls). shut up and TAKE MY MONEY. but even if they do not, just the fact that a group of elves like that canonically exists out there warms my heart That is a story we would like to explore, once this current set of adventures is over. Can't say if it'll happen, just that we want to do it. [Calix] appears to be set up as a contact of some sort. Future comic books may not be the only place we'll see him again. His role in this adventure is over. But we'd love to write him again someday. Because every time she uses her powers (whether controlling plants or healing) someone makes a comment on how they usually only see that magic among the elves. One comment I might pass off as coincidence, but two (or more)? Well, when Ser Aaron comments on the healing, he's really commenting on her using magic to grow the Embrium to calm Cassé. Even her healing is supplemented by plant magic, and that makes her unique even amongst healers. On a related tangent, even though it appears House Invidus has fallen upon hard times with fall of the Venatori, Francesca's father was still referred to as "Magister" Invidus. Does this mean he still had a seat on the Magisterium? And is it now... Magister Francesca? You know, with all the plotting we did, this actually didn't play out in our heads. Interesting... As we wrote the family, her father was still a Magister but worried about his Venatori connections getting them all killed. The family's fortunes had taken a hit for the rumors, but he was still in the Magisterium. Listening to you both was great! And learning that you guys read fan headcanons. Esp about Fenris having kids. Well, we try to keep in tune with what the fans of the series are feeling. We can't always match the headcanons, but we like to be aware of them. I wonder if they ever have some as inspiration for ideas they do. *crosses fingers for Vaea is Ace/Demi to be canon* We listen to everything we can. We don't want to directly respond to specific fan reactions in what we write, but we try to keep the bigger picture of what people think in our minds when we plan our storylines and character arcs. Well, what they said is that the tone has shifted *slightly*, plus heists and espionage and stuff are still there (same for Tevinter Nights), only more swashbuckling and stuff. So I'd say that so far it appears more like newer iteration of previous themes rather than going away from planned themes. I think that's probably the best way to view the shift.
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 24, 2020 20:38:29 GMT
Hello, Mr. DeFilippis! I've been lurking and waiting to see if you posted, and I registered as soon as you did. I've been really enjoying the comic so far but I wanted to ask about what I see as the three major plot devices in all three comics and how they're coming together, so I've got it straight in my head. (I know that term has derisory implications but I'm not making fun of your comic, I just don't know how else to describe the artifacts that are driving the story.) So as far as I can tell, we've got: -The lyrium sarcophagus: It was used by Danarius to give Fenris his powers and the villains are using it again to try and create a red lyrium warrior. It was previously in Carastes. It's always been in possession of House Danarius, but it was broken. Marquette fixed it, or at least he thinks he fixed it. -Meredith's sword: Taken from Kirkwall by the elven spies who were masquerading as Magister Qintara. (That's why Vaea remarked on Meredith not having her sword in Knight Errant.) It was traded for information to House Danarius, who plans to use it to create a red lyrium warrior. -The journal: it belonged to someone who studied the sarcophagus and was aware of House Qintara stealing Meredith's sword. Sebastian Vael somehow got his hands on it, and then Vaea (on behalf of the Inquisition) stole it.
Also, while he's not a plot device, Magister Invidus was brought into the bad guys' circle because he was one of the few people left who knew about red lyrium.
Am I about right?
We listen to everything we can. We don't want to directly respond to specific fan reactions in what we write, but we try to keep the bigger picture of what people think in our minds when we plan our storylines and character arcs. Personally, I'm in favour of Vaea having HOT, SWEATY SEX with mah boi Sebastian, but her being asexual would probably fit the character more.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 24, 2020 20:50:29 GMT
I can't confirm anything, but the ending here makes our plans to continue pretty clear. Nothing is official yet, least of all a release date. But it hopefully won't be nearly as long as last time. Fingers crossed.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Apr 2, 2020 4:16:54 GMT
I can't confirm anything, but the ending here makes our plans to continue pretty clear. Nothing is official yet, least of all a release date. But it hopefully won't be nearly as long as last time. Fingers crossed. Mine too. I'd have said the wait would be a LOT shorter, but with the entire world (comic industry being no exception) either shut down or slowed to a crawl, I genuinely have no idea of the timetable. I know what it could have been, and that would have been a lot shorter. But now? We all wait and see.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Apr 9, 2020 20:30:00 GMT
The lyrium sarcophagus: It was used by Danarius to give Fenris his powers and the villains are using it again to try and create a red lyrium warrior. It was previously in Carastes. It's always been in possession of House Danarius, but it was broken. Marquette fixed it, or at least he thinks he fixed it. That is correct. Meredith's sword: Taken from Kirkwall by the elven spies who were masquerading as Magister Qintara. (That's why Vaea remarked on Meredith not having her sword in Knight Errant.) It was traded for information to House Danarius, who plans to use it to create a red lyrium warrior. Mostly correct. Marquette also led that effort. That was the "work for House Qintara" that got him a referral to House Danarius. That was how we plotted it, though I understand Tevinter Nights may paint a different picture of that effort, in which case, figure he was behind the scenes, not directly involved but orchestrating it (as he would have done in Starkhaven had the Tevinter agents not started slaughtering everyone). -The journal: it belonged to someone who studied the sarcophagus and was aware of House Qintara stealing Meredith's sword. Sebastian Vael somehow got his hands on it, and then Vaea (on behalf of the Inquisition) stole it. Correct. Once under the employ of House Danarius, Marquette was sent back to the Free Marches to get the journal from Starkhaven, an effort that was foiled by Vaea & Ser Aaron. This is why Danarius' slave did not think very highly of Marquette in Issue 1 of Blue Wraith. Also, while he's not a plot device, Magister Invidus was brought into the bad guys' circle because he was one of the few people left who knew about red lyrium. Yep. And how much he was able to tell Nenealeus and eventually Marquette before he was "rescued" by Francesca is now a key question. Yep. Personally, I'm in favour of Vaea having HOT, SWEATY SEX with mah boi Sebastian, but her being asexual would probably fit the character more. She was mostly enoying the notion of flirting with a prince (what with her being an alienage girl) than truly into him. But I do find that pairing an interesting one. Even if not romantically... or hot-sweaty-sexually.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 17, 2020 17:14:04 GMT
Dark Horse Comics @darkhorsecomicsWe want to help make things a bit easier for those staying home right now, especially with kids. All Dark Horse Digital comics are 50% off, and you can take an extra 50% off all kids titles with coupon code comics4kids at digital.darkhorse.com . Dragon Age titles from Dark Horse are on sale right now, including the latest series (Blue Wraith): digital.darkhorse.com/search?q=dragon+age&l=-1&index=product
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Post by Mithras on Apr 18, 2020 19:18:23 GMT
Meredith's sword: Taken from Kirkwall by the elven spies who were masquerading as Magister Qintara. (That's why Vaea remarked on Meredith not having her sword in Knight Errant.) It was traded for information to House Danarius, who plans to use it to create a red lyrium warrior. Mostly correct. Marquette also led that effort. That was the "work for House Qintara" that got him a referral to House Danarius. That was how we plotted it, though I understand Tevinter Nights may paint a different picture of that effort, in which case, figure he was behind the scenes, not directly involved but orchestrating it (as he would have done in Starkhaven had the Tevinter agents not started slaughtering everyone). But the sword exploded. Didn't someone remark in Blue Wraith how Meredith's heart had turned into a replica of the Red Lyrium Idol that Hawke found and that is the artifact that both the remnants of the Venatori and Solas are after?
Or maybe it was in Tevinter Nights?
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Post by necrowaif on Apr 19, 2020 7:05:57 GMT
But the sword exploded. Didn't someone remark in Blue Wraith how Meredith's heart had turned into a replica of the Red Lyrium Idol that Hawke found and that is the artifact that both the remnants of the Venatori and Solas are after? You are correct, Mithras. The sword did explode. But it has been restored. Here’s what happened. Spoilers ahead for the story “May the Dread Wolf Take You.”@nunziodefillipis, you may want to take note of this. You know how this starts: Meredith purchased the idol from Bartrand, went insane and then turned into pure red lyrium.
Sometime after DAI, however, an elf approaches the Carta in Kirkwall and tells them the lyrium idol has regrown into the middle of Meredith’s chest. They use a potion to soften the lyrium so it can get moulded by hand and they can retrieve the idol. It then gets taken by templars working from House Qintara - in fact, it was probably Marquette who arranged that.
House Qintara - or rather, the elven servants who had taken it over - gave the idol to House Danarius in exchange for some valuable information. Presumably, they used it at that time to reforge Meredith’s sword.
A member of House Danarius then took the idol to Nevarra, where he enlisted the Mortalitasi to perform a ritual with the idol to force the qunari to return to the north.
Solas interrupts that ritual, killing the member of House Danarius and many of the Mortalitasi. However, one of them escapes with the idol.
At this point, the idol MAY have gone to the city of Llomerryn, but that’s dubious, since it was Solas himself who claimed that. In any case, it ended up in Solas’ hands once again, and he plans to use it to destroy the modern world and restore it for the elves. I must say, it irritates me a little that both of Weekes’ stories in Tevinter Nights lightly contradict the comics.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 19, 2020 8:04:55 GMT
Quick question: Are you sure that Solas has got the idol if we ignore the story he tells about it winding up in Llomerryn?
You see if Solas already has the idol and that is what he needed for his ritual, then surely there is nothing more than our PC can do about it? However, if the idol is currently somewhere else, then this could have been Solas trying to throw others off the scent whilst he looks for it.
The teaser trailer featured the idol. PW has said the Dread Wolf Take You gave clues about DA4. If Solas already has the idol then this would no longer be the focus of our efforts in the game but something else entirely, in which case why make the idol the main feature?
To my mind, the story that has the mage fleeing with the idol is the true one and so it is still out there somewhere for us to try and find before Solas does.
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Post by necrowaif on Apr 19, 2020 8:07:44 GMT
Quick question: Are you sure that Solas has got the idol if we ignore the story he tells about it winding up in Llomerryn?
You see if Solas already has the idol and that is what he needed for his ritual, then surely there is nothing more than our PC can do about it? However, if the idol is currently somewhere else, then this could have been Solas trying to throw others off the scent whilst he looks for it.
The teaser trailer featured the idol. PW has said the Dread Wolf Take You gave clues about DA4. If Solas already has the idol then this would no longer be the focus of our efforts in the game but something else entirely, in which case why make the idol the main feature? He could have been lying about recovering the idol; I can’t say with certainty. Nothing in “The Bard’s Tale” can be trusted.
But it’s also possible that his ritual will take a long time to complete, or that he needs something else to make it work. I mean, if all he needs is the idol, why gather an army of elves at Arlathan Forest?
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 19, 2020 8:17:09 GMT
He could have been lying; I can’t say with certainty. But it’s also possible that his ritual will take a while, or that he needs more components to make it work, or something. If he all he needs is the idol, why gather an army of elves at Arlathan I think Arlathan Forest is probably where he needs to perform the ritual for it to work and if nothing else he needs to protect the site from intruders, particularly if he is still looking for the idol. Clearly the main area of the Tevinter/Qunari conflict is centred on the east side of the Imperium and possibly Antiva/Rivain as well. That would place Arlathen right in the middle of it and a strategically important location to both sides, so his army is to ensure that they don't end up blundering into the ritual site and ruining everything.
I do think that part of the ritual could involve him dropping in Uthenera, leaving his body highly vulnerable to attack as his entire attention needs to be focussed on the ritual. Major spells in ancient times took days, weeks or even years to bring to fruition. So if he does have the idol, then the army is to protect him whilst he completes the ritual, which could take the entirety of the game play and our ultimate aim is to reach him before its completion.
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Post by necrowaif on Apr 19, 2020 9:28:00 GMT
I think Arlathan Forest is probably where he needs to perform the ritual for it to work and if nothing else he needs to protect the site from intruders, particularly if he is still looking for the idol. Clearly the main area of the Tevinter/Qunari conflict is centred on the east side of the Imperium and possibly Antiva/Rivain as well. That would place Arlathen right in the middle of it and a strategically important location to both sides, so his army is to ensure that they don't end up blundering into the ritual site and ruining everything.
I do think that part of the ritual could involve him dropping in Uthenera, leaving his body highly vulnerable to attack as his entire attention needs to be focussed on the ritual. Major spells in ancient times took days, weeks or even years to bring to fruition. So if he does have the idol, then the army is to protect him whilst he completes the ritual, which could take the entirety of the game play and our ultimate aim is to reach him before its completion. Well, it’s certainly possible that all Solas needs an army for is to protect him during that ritual. That would fall under my earlier suggestion that the ritual will take a long time.
I still think he currently possesses the idol, though. If he didn’t, it would be rather foolish of him to say that he needed it to a bunch of people out to stop him.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Apr 20, 2020 5:10:35 GMT
Hey all,
Here's the honest truth. Getting these pieces of lore exactly lined up has been a bit of a moving target. I think the Bioware team has been developing their thoughts on the idol, and we have had to shift plans when their thoughts evolved. For example, our original plan was that the 'MacGuffin' our characters were chasing across these many miniseries was the idol itself. But as their plans developed, we realized that would leave our characters unable to retrieve the idol in a meaningful way - they could retrieve it, only to have Solas take it back, but that would cheapen their victory.
So our plans shifted accordingly, and in two ways - one is a distinction between the idol and the sword. That was why Gaius in Deception made it clear that what they sought was a weapon. More on that if/when there's another miniseries. The other is by having our characters uncover this Venatori plot with the sarcophagus while chasing the idol. Now, they have uncovered a plot that is entirely theirs to foil. Their success or failure would have massive repercussions - imagine if the Venatori could create Red Lyrium versions of Fenris! And it still ties to the Red Lyrium Weapon. But when our overarching story was done, we could grant our characters a victory or defeat that was not dependent on what Solas did in any future games or the book.
That's how our plans evolved to allow them to tie into what Bioware was doing even if we weren't always "in the room where it happened," so to speak.
So... Marquette speaks of 'work for House Qintara' that got him the referral to House Danarius. To us, that has always been the job of retrieving the idol from Kirkwall. Even as we evolved our storytelling, we hung onto that. How it was retrieved, what form it was in, that is a matter best left to team Bioware, and we figure our line allows it to fit because it stays vague enough that we don't need to bullseye that moving target. But so long as you can imagine that Marquette was involved with (even if behind the scenes) what went down, then everything still clicks.
As to where the idol goes from our story to get it where it is mentioned in Tevinter Nights... that is part of what we're tackling next if/when our next bit of storytelling ever comes.
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