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Post by bella on Dec 27, 2019 9:56:16 GMT
I’ve always been a fan of the new game new protagonist route for DA. Perhaps if DA4 came out 2 years ago it would have been okay to have the Inquisitor be the sole protagonist or one of two protagonists, but since Inquisition will be 8-9 years old by the time they release the new game, it just doesn’t make sense to me why they would even bother. Most players will be new to the series or won’t be hardcore fans, so spending time establishing the Inquisitor as a character once again will most likely take away from what they could do (and should be doing) with the new protagonist.
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Post by wright1978 on Dec 27, 2019 10:17:06 GMT
New protagonist only
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Post by adonniel on Dec 27, 2019 16:24:14 GMT
A single and absolutely new character. I'm not a fan of the fractured stories. When I'm playing a character I feel involved in whatever it is they're doing. If the story jerks back and forth between two perspectives, then I lose submersion every time there is a jump to a new character. I have to re-adapt, remember whatever it is I was doing with the other guy and blah blah blah. Then as soon as I get involved with a new guy, I get pulled away again. The more the story does it, the less I like it. I don't like constantly losing connection with a played character. As for repeating a hero, of all three games, I felt the least connection with the Inquisitor. She had the least personality and was the most bland of them all. Hawke and Warden had strong and interesting personalities, Borequisitor did not.
Were I to choose a comeback, I'd be a lot more interested in what our Warden has been up to during the past ten years. A search for the cure against the taint sounds like an interesting adventure. And there I'd want new companions.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 28, 2019 10:40:15 GMT
I'd rather have a completely new protagonist, but I could live with a prologue/tutorial featuring the Inquisitor that ends with their death.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 28, 2019 14:16:39 GMT
I chose Inquisitor only because of AWR's voice. If not, I don''t have a problem with a new main character.
The dual thing? Would that mean two separate character creator screens? When customizing a character, will a text pop up asking if you like to have the second character look the same? I don't see why that wouldn't happen since some, including myself, would have both look the same. What about content? Will both characters have the same amount of time/content? The same for companions. And how many companions will each character have?
For a scenario have one main character be the one who is tasked with stopping Solas. The other could be hired by an agent of Solas to delay the other main character long enough for Solas to do his hocus pocus thing. The second character could be a mercenary who gathers a few of his mercs to deal with the first character. There could be a couple of times where both cross paths. On the final encounter, #1 could use the power of the voice to convince #2 that he's being used by whoever hired him. If possible, could convince #2 to join in the fight against Solas. If not, #2 is either killed or leaves never to be heard from again. No matter what happens, the game will default to #1 for the fight against Solas.
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 30, 2019 15:35:52 GMT
Hope for a cameo or an advisor but splitting is horrible idea.
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Post by Felya87 on Dec 30, 2019 20:30:38 GMT
I'd prefer more focus on the new protagonist, but I'd love some parts where I can play as my Inquisitor again: not for much time: just a few "political" missions (a ball, a reunion with the heads of the Countries etc.). Inquisitor doesn't even have to be in Tevinter, for that. Just playng as her to explore the politic of things, while the new protagonist in in the middle of things in the streets. Like having withthe Inquisitors a window on how the people in power are acting, or taking decisions on what to do, and than, having the new protagonist acting in the world.
Basically, an evolution of what was done with the war table: we play the Inquisitor talking with nobles, and than sending spyes or ambassadors, but the spyes/ambassadors are the new characters.
If It wasn't for Trespasser and Solas, I would not mind a new protagonist only, but as it is, at least a few missions playng from the Inquisitor is something I'd really like.
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Post by Fredward on Dec 31, 2019 6:53:52 GMT
I picked two protagonists with a focus on the new one, but I'd only be interested in this if I could put the two protags at odds with each other wrt motivation/goals. Otherwise just the new one.
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Post by arvaarad on Dec 31, 2019 15:47:26 GMT
I picked two protagonists with a focus on the new one, but I'd only be interested in this if I could put the two protags at odds with each other wrt motivation/goals. Otherwise just the new one. +1 to a protag that’s trying to undermine the new-Inquisition. Give me that northern Thedas backstabbing and espionage.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 1, 2020 8:06:21 GMT
I picked two protagonists with a focus on the new one, but I'd only be interested in this if I could put the two protags at odds with each other wrt motivation/goals. Otherwise just the new one. +1 to a protag that’s trying to undermine the new-Inquisition. Give me that northern Thedas backstabbing and espionage. My ideal would be the reverse: redeem Solas(mancer) Inquisitor who has had all these experiences with Solas at odds with current protag who has had a very different set of experiences and really can't see how or why he deserves it. Bonus points if we can play them off against each other like intentionally witholding information because of mutual distrust, going behind each other's back and finding the information out anyway and culminating in a mutually exclusive conclusion where only one protag survives. That classic Bioware choice but let me be the author/architect of my own emotional anguish. I've been sending these brainwaves to the writing room since the first time I had this conversation on this forum. Bioware pls.
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Post by helios969 on Jan 1, 2020 11:25:16 GMT
New protagonist only...the dual thing seems a surefire way to water down the experience. The ship of having a returning protagonist sailed when they didn't make Hawke the Inquisitor. Plus I have little faith in them bringing the Inquisitor back in a satisfying way...let him/her orchestrate from the background.
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Post by arvaarad on Jan 1, 2020 17:20:46 GMT
+1 to a protag that’s trying to undermine the new-Inquisition. Give me that northern Thedas backstabbing and espionage. My ideal would be the reverse: redeem Solas(mancer) Inquisitor who has had all these experiences with Solas at odds with current protag who has had a very different set of experiences and really can't see how or why he deserves it. Bonus points if we can play them off against each other like intentionally witholding information because of mutual distrust, going behind each other's back and finding the information out anyway and culminating in a mutually exclusive conclusion where only one protag survives. That classic Bioware choice but let me be the author/architect of my own emotional anguish. I've been sending these brainwaves to the writing room since the first time I had this conversation on this forum. Bioware pls. The Inquisitor ranges from “100% opposed to Solas” to “ok, but maybe do it differently” so I picture a rivalry more like the new PC being explicitly AoF.* I think an AoF could still be quite challenging to pro-Solas Inquisitors, because they’re a follower of Fen’Harel, the larger-than-life image of Solas that may be at odds with the actual Solas’ wants and needs, especially if his goals/methods evolve due to the Inquisitor’s influence. *or Ben-Hassrath, or some Void/titan tomfoolery, or a lingering Venatori cultist (or hey, maybe humans could be Promisers)... basically being from one of the many factions that’s a definite enemy of the new-Inquisition, regardless of which Inquisitor is in play.
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Post by Frost on Jan 2, 2020 1:56:37 GMT
I voted for the Inquisitor only. However, two protagonists could also work. Because Bioware is bringing back one of the Inquisitor's companions as the antagonist, I think it makes the most sense for the story that they bring back the Inquisitor as well.
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Post by duskwanderer on Jan 2, 2020 2:27:19 GMT
The concept of a dual protagonist appeals to me, but I don't think it would fit with a Dragon Age game.
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Post by Sartoz on Jan 2, 2020 13:56:22 GMT
I prefer a new protagonist.
The Inqui did not come up to the level of The Warden. Besides, I believe BIO will introduce *new features* that necessitates changes. ...maybe even major ones (DA2 vs DA:I).
A dual *protagonist* scenario might work if done as a "good" vs "bad" character... some films have this down pat. ... lots of voice acting and choices with consequences. But, given BIO's actual game "choices with consequences" past work... this will be mediocre at best.
"Che sera, sera" is about the best I can hope for DA4.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jan 2, 2020 20:25:36 GMT
I voted for the Inquisitor only. However, two protagonists could also work. Because Bioware is bringing back one of the Inquisitor's companions as the antagonist, I think it makes the most sense for the story that they bring back the Inquisitor as well. I disagree first Corypheus was in my opinion a DA 2 / Hawke villian but he was stopped by a new hero.
Second does it really matter who stops Solas? We all know that he can´t win and will be stopped and likely be killed.
And third the whole game of DA 4 isn´t just about Solas. There is no need to bring the Inquisitor back for the Tevinter vs Qunari or the Grey Warden civilwar storyline. Not is just for Solas and Trespasser ending that some want the Inquisitor back. I disagree but i get it. But why you guys want the Inquisitor as full Protagoinst back when you clearly want him/her just for Solas final boss scene / confrontation?
I think that bringing a previous hero back as NPC, Dual Protagonist or as full returning Protagoinst is a really bad idea. You have every right to diagree with me on this but i don´t want to recreate my Inquisitor in the new character editor and get disappointed that i won´t able to recreate my Inquisitior which looks anything like my DAI hero. I also don´t want to start at Level 1 and lost all my skills because of reasons. I don´t want to play irrelevant time-consuming fetch quests when my Inquisitor is one of the most important figures in modern Thedas. I don´t doubt that Solas and Dorian will get tons of romance scenes and therefore dialogues. But what about the other 6? To be bad Sera or Cullenmancers both aren´t in DA 4. They only write a letter like in Awakening. The Sera i know and which of one my Inquisitor had married won´t leave her love for some stupid reason in the fight against Solas. Or the Iron Bull Bioware can clearly don´t make other than a cameo with him because i could be died. And that´s are such a few points from a player who haved played all Dragon Age games.
But after all these years DA 4 must more importantly also work for new players who haven´t played any Dragon Age game or just skip Trespasser.
Its not impossible to explain the previous game but why when its so much easier with a new hero? Also i really doubt that all of the DA 4 players would like to play as a dismemberment hero.
Last but not least i won´t lie but i would hate DA 4 if Bioware brings (in my opinion) the most boring Dragon Age protagonist back. So new hero please. Solas is maybe one reason for the Inquisitors return but they are tons against it.
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Post by isaidlunch on Jan 3, 2020 0:59:00 GMT
I think the Inquisitor deserves to be the PC and get proper closure in DA4, but I don't see it happening. I hope that they at least drop this bizarre "set up a protagonist for a plot and then give it to someone else" trend.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jan 3, 2020 1:13:48 GMT
I think the Inquisitor deserves to be the PC and get proper closure in DA4, but I don't see it happening. And why do you want to play as Inquisitor for the whole game of DA 4? Can you name any other reason(s) then Solas and the final confrontation?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 3, 2020 1:26:43 GMT
I think the Inquisitor deserves to be the PC and get proper closure in DA4, but I don't see it happening. And why do you want to play as Inquisitor for the whole game of DA 4? Can you name any other reason(s) then Solas and the final confrontation?
Well, despite the fact those things you dismissed are large things since they took a completed story and character and left them undone, I have plenty of other reasons. A few are: 1. Already established character so we don't need to spend time and resources on that and instead use those for other parts of the story. 2. Gives Bioware a way to be progressive by having a handicapped protagonist. 3. My all-time favorite Bioware protagonist.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jan 3, 2020 1:38:16 GMT
1. Already established character so we don't need to spend time and resources on that and instead use those for other parts of the story. 2. Gives Bioware a way to be progressive by having a handicapped protagonist. 3. My all-time favorite Bioware protagonist. 1. Yeah and what about the new players? You really believe after all these years a returning PC is a good idea for players haven´t played any Dragon Age or just DAO? 2. I already see some players (not me by the ways) who will hate this the idea that they are forced to play such PC. 3. Well that is just your sole opinion. I dislike him/her. Sorry the Inquisitor is for my taste too boring and i don´t like the Jesus of Thedas part of the characterization. Edit: Also i don´t think that Bioware could extend the Inquisitors backgrounds except the bog-standard plot of Solas wants to destroy world and stops him.
I still believe in this Dragon Age rule / quote: "Dragon Age isn´t about one single hero unlike Mass Effect its about the time and the conflicts"
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Post by melbella on Jan 3, 2020 2:10:51 GMT
1. Yeah and what about the new players? You really believe after all these years a returning PC is a good idea for players haven´t played any Dragon Age or just DAO? Seemed to work for ME3. You know, the "best place" to start the trilogy. But really, new players will either care enough to find out more about the setting or they won't. I see no reason for Bioware to favor the latter over the former.
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Post by Addictress on Jan 3, 2020 2:45:58 GMT
There are a wide range of ways to control another "protagonist" even if just for once scene.
Remember controlling Joker during the collectors abduction in Mass Effect 2?
In theory we could briefly control each of the previous 3 protagonists for just one or two scenes. Not only would it make everybody happy, I believe it would be powerful for story-telling too. The Collectors abduction scene is still one of the most powerful narrative experiences in games to this day.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 3, 2020 3:34:38 GMT
1. Already established character so we don't need to spend time and resources on that and instead use those for other parts of the story. 2. Gives Bioware a way to be progressive by having a handicapped protagonist. 3. My all-time favorite Bioware protagonist. 1. Yeah and what about the new players? You really believe after all these years a returning PC is a good idea for players haven´t played any Dragon Age or just DAO? 2. I already see some players (not me by the ways) who will hate this the idea that they are forced to play such PC. 3. Well that is just your sole opinion. I dislike him/her. Sorry the Inquisitor is for my taste too boring and i don´t like the Jesus of Thedas part of the characterization. Edit: Also i don´t think that Bioware could extend the Inquisitors backgrounds except the bog-standard plot of Solas wants to destroy world and stops him.
I still believe in this Dragon Age rule / quote: "Dragon Age isn´t about one single hero unlike Mass Effect its about the time and the conflicts"
1. New players have this wonderful thing called the past games or the Internet to catch up. Games shouldn’t be held back and explain everything each time just because some are too lazy to look up what they missed when jumping into the fourth game of a series. 2. Bigots should not be paid attention to. BioWare certainly hasn’t cared about them before, so why now? 3. Fine. You can feel how you want. I don’t care and it doesn’t change that being an answer that fits your question. That idiotic rule is fine if they complete the story of each of those characters. This time however they did not, and I still believe in the rule a good story needs a beginning, a middle, and an end.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 3, 2020 7:23:22 GMT
I voted for new protagonist only. I don't like to have two protagonists and I do like a fresh character with a new background.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 3, 2020 7:51:22 GMT
I think taking the Inquisitor's hand away was BioWare's way of telling us that this protagonist's story is over, intending to avoid demands for a return in future games like they got for the Warden - and once again underestimating people's attachment to their characters and stories. I wouldn't be overly surprised if the next protagonist gets killed off in the end only for players to demand a return as a force lyrium ghost.
Personally I wouldn't mind playing a Götz von Berlichingen kind of badass, but since I don't feel any particular connection to Solas and his story - as far as I'm concerned Morrigan is welcome to kill him off in the prologue - I would be happy with a new character too.
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