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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 9, 2020 21:07:39 GMT
I could see allying with/formenting discord among (common) elves who decided to throw their lot in with Solas, but are having/made to have second thoughts. Conflict of interest between pleasing Tevinter nobles and the rebellious slaves. I'd to see a return of player origins, where each origin's character has to make a origin-specific decision. For example, if there's an option of playing a Tevinter noble background PC, you could get a decision to ally either with a family allied to Dorian Pavus' faction or a more traditionalist one. If the player origin was a slave, I'd like a choice between killing a slaver company (the moral choice being related to the slaver company's family -whether they live, die, or are sold off into slavery and all the freemen get a cut...).
I could see how the mage/warrior/rouge might work in Senate if you play as the scion of a noble family that has a seat in the senate, now granted mages rule but I do think a warrior or a rouge from a long and noble family could get a seat in the senate. Maybe you're the younger sibling who didn't get any magical powers (if you play as a rouge or a warrior) and when your older sibling is murder you inherent the seat and maybe more traditionalists in the senate don't like you and will only accept you into their faction if you perform some quest or something while some like Dorian and his faction might be more welcoming and will ask you to join provided you agree with their platform.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 6, 2020 10:26:47 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 6, 2020 10:27:58 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion. There is no reason good enough. I hope BioWare realized that and just has them return.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on May 6, 2020 11:10:23 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion. Does it really matter who stops Solas? We all know that he can´t win at the end and likely be killed or kills himself. I am totally fine with the Inquisitor don´t show up because for me atleast DAI Hawke was a pretty disappointing.
At the end its same Bioware "classic" story. Someone or Something wants to destroy / conquer the world / galaxy and the
player is the only hope. So yeah i couldn´t care less about Solas. He claims to be not another Corypheus but actually he is. I am a lot more interessed in the Qunari vs Tevinter and Grey Warden Civilwar story acts of DA 4 and there
you definitiv don´t the Inquisitor as returning protagonist.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 6, 2020 11:15:17 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion. There is no reason good enough. I hope BioWare realized that and just has them return. Yeah Tresspasser was supposed to be the Inquisitor's Witch Hunt you know completely removing them from the overall Dragon Age story.Solas disabling the Inquisitor at the end was just like the Warden following Morrigan through the mirror.
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Post by andydandymandy on May 12, 2020 4:53:03 GMT
There is no reason good enough. I hope BioWare realized that and just has them return. Yeah Tresspasser was supposed to be the Inquisitor's Witch Hunt you know completely removing them from the overall Dragon Age story.Solas disabling the Inquisitor at the end was just like the Warden following Morrigan through the mirror. Stabbing a knife into the map of Tevinter, telling Solas to their face that they are either going to stop him by any means necessary or redeem him, is "removing them from the overall Dragon Age story"?
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 12, 2020 17:18:57 GMT
Yeah Tresspasser was supposed to be the Inquisitor's Witch Hunt you know completely removing them from the overall Dragon Age story.Solas disabling the Inquisitor at the end was just like the Warden following Morrigan through the mirror. Stabbing a knife into the map of Tevinter, telling Solas to their face that they are either going to stop him by any means necessary or redeem him, is "removing them from the overall Dragon Age story"? Well Solas did cripple the Inquisitor which was BW's way of removing them as a possible PC going forward but now BW has shot that to **** with the introduction of Prosthetic's and now if the Inquisitor is brought back as the PC of Dragon Age 4 it will not make sense that the Inquisitor would abandon their LI's to chase Solas maybe a female dalish elf that romanced Solas would make sense being brought back but thats about it for me. So the only way I would want my Inquisitors back would be if Dragon Age 4 was a direct sequel of Inquisition with all the same party/squad member's/LI's and I dont see that happening so all I can hope for is that the Inquisitor isnt brought back especially if they get the terrible Hawke treatment from Inquisition.Ugh😒
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Post by gervaise21 on May 12, 2020 17:55:32 GMT
if the Inquisitor is brought back as the PC of Dragon Age 4 it will not make sense that the Inquisitor would abandon their LI's to chase Solas To save that LI's life, is that not a good enough reason? And the reason they're not with us is that we need to use people Solas doesn't know. Except that is a really good reason why the Inquisitor isn't doing the chasing themselves. So I imagine that the Inquisitor is going to play a part more like the Elusive Man in ME2. They will pop up (or simply send a message via their contact in Tevinter) telling you where they think you should go next and then you will feed back with what you have discovered. That way they are definitely involved but as a shadowy figure behind the scenes. Then may be at the end of the journey the PC gets the option of following the orders of the Inquisitor regarding Solas (which you could still have some control over) or telling them to stuff it (like Shepard in ME2) and doing what you think is right. Personally, I could get on board with that but not with the Inquisitor being like Hawke in DAI, where a lot of words are put in their mouth that you know your Inquisitor would never say and then get dropped from the plot half way through, either dying in an unnecessary way or being sent off on some wild goose chase to which there is never a satisfactory resolution. Actually that last bit was also true of the Warden. Of course there is another alternative concerning the Inquisitor which would prevent them conducting the search. It occurs to me that at the end of May the Dread Wolf take you, Solas sends a message to the Inquisitor that he is sorry, having admitted to Charter that he spilled his plan to them in a moment of weakness. You will recall that the last person he apologised to was Flemeth/Mythal, immediately before he killed her. So may be DA4 will begin with him killing the Inquisitor.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 12, 2020 18:12:59 GMT
Stabbing a knife into the map of Tevinter, telling Solas to their face that they are either going to stop him by any means necessary or redeem him, is "removing them from the overall Dragon Age story"? Well Solas did cripple the Inquisitor which was BW's way of removing them as a possible PC going forward but now BW has shot that to **** with the introduction of Prosthetic's and now if the Inquisitor is brought back as the PC of Dragon Age 4 it will not make sense that the Inquisitor would abandon their LI's to chase Solas maybe a female dalish elf that romanced Solas would make sense being brought back but thats about it for me. So the only way I would want my Inquisitors back would be if Dragon Age 4 was a direct sequel of Inquisition with all the same party/squad member's/LI's and I dont see that happening so all I can hope for is that the Inquisitor isnt brought back especially if they get the terrible Hawke treatment from Inquisition.Ugh😒 That’s not the reason why BioWare had Solas remove the Inquisitor’s hand. When asked about that Patrick Weekes said, “No. There are plenty of amputee heroes.” and then explained the reason was to show the time of the Inquisitor sealing rifts was over.
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Post by phoray on May 12, 2020 18:18:37 GMT
if the Inquisitor is brought back as the PC of Dragon Age 4 it will not make sense that the Inquisitor would abandon their LI's to chase Solas .... Of course there is another alternative concerning the Inquisitor which would prevent them conducting the search. It occurs to me that at the end of May the Dread Wolf take you, Solas sends a message to the Inquisitor that he is sorry, having admitted to Charter that he spilled his plan to them in a moment of weakness. You will recall that the last person he apologised to was Flemeth/Mythal, immediately before he killed her. So may be DA4 will begin with him killing the Inquisitor. Holy Crap. Or maybe Stones them. and everyone made into stone will be un stoned after Solas is defeated.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 12, 2020 18:23:39 GMT
if the Inquisitor is brought back as the PC of Dragon Age 4 it will not make sense that the Inquisitor would abandon their LI's to chase Solas To save that LI's life, is that not a good enough reason? And the reason they're not with us is that we need to use people Solas doesn't know. Except that is a really good reason why the Inquisitor isn't doing the chasing themselves. So I imagine that the Inquisitor is going to play a part more like the Elusive Man in ME2. They will pop up (or simply send a message via their contact in Tevinter) telling you where they think you should go next and then you will feed back with what you have discovered. That way they are definitely involved but as a shadowy figure behind the scenes. Then may be at the end of the journey the PC gets the option of following the orders of the Inquisitor regarding Solas (which you could still have some control over) or telling them to stuff it (like Shepard in ME2) and doing what you think is right. Personally, I could get on board with that but not with the Inquisitor being like Hawke in DAI, where a lot of words are put in their mouth that you know your Inquisitor would never say and then get dropped from the plot half way through, either dying in an unnecessary way or being sent off on some wild goose chase to which there is never a satisfactory resolution. Actually that last bit was also true of the Warden. Of course there is another alternative concerning the Inquisitor which would prevent them conducting the search. It occurs to me that at the end of May the Dread Wolf take you, Solas sends a message to the Inquisitor that he is sorry, having admitted to Charter that he spilled his plan to them in a moment of weakness. You will recall that the last person he apologised to was Flemeth/Mythal, immediately before he killed her. So may be DA4 will begin with him killing the Inquisitor.
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Post by samurailink on May 12, 2020 21:05:29 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion. The line about needing someone he doesn't know so they can surprise him was honestly all the explanation I needed to keep them away until the very end honestly. DA4 is just a "Hunt Down Solas" war table mission to the Inquisitor. I for one look forward to my Inquisitor receiving 80 gold and a Sigil of the Dread Wolf they'll immediately sell once our new protagonist finds him.
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Post by Vall on May 13, 2020 7:16:03 GMT
I just hope BW has a damn good reason for the new MC to be chasing after Solas instead of the Inquisitor seriously they better not give them the Hawk treatment from Inquistion. The line about needing someone he doesn't know so they can surprise him was honestly all the explanation I needed to keep them away until the very end honestly. DA4 is just a "Hunt Down Solas" war table mission to the Inquisitor. I for one look forward to my Inquisitor receiving 80 gold and a Sigil of the Dread Wolf they'll immediately sell once our new protagonist finds him. *laughs* Now I want DA4 to start by zooming in on the war table. Either in the main menu, like explosion in Inquisition, or as the first shot before the into rolls in
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 13, 2020 13:44:02 GMT
Honestly i'm more interested about the Tevinter/Qunari conflict than Solas tbh I hope most if not all of Dragon Age 4's main story/plot will be focused on the Tevinter/Qunari Conflict and not Solas.
BioWare can just tie up the Solas Story/plot with a chain of sidequests.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 13, 2020 18:37:03 GMT
Honestly i'm more interested about the Tevinter/Qunari conflict than Solas tbh I hope most if not all of Dragon Age 4's main story/plot will be focused on the Tevinter/Qunari Conflict and not Solas. I think the conflict is going to be an important backdrop and even vital to the main plot, a bit like the Blight was in DAO. There we had to get the aid of various factions to give us the backing we needed, dealing with different nation's politics and other problems along the way. Our showdown with the Arch-demon only took place right at the end of the game, despite knowing that killing it was likely the only way to stop the Blight. With all the different factions that were being showcased in Tevinter Nights, I think it is a fairly sure bet that at least some, if not all, of them will be having contact with our PC and whether through being able to supply information, muscle or items, they will all have to be dealt with at some point in order to give us the means to stop the Dread Wolf.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 13, 2020 19:09:31 GMT
We can hope Dragon Age 4 is alot like Origins including bringing back the Origin stories.
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Post by andydandymandy on May 13, 2020 21:12:09 GMT
Solas plans to destroy the world by bringing down the veil. There is no way to do that without making it the main plot. "A series of sidequests" isn't going to cut it.
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Post by Frost on May 13, 2020 23:43:15 GMT
Can you imagine? War Table mission: Stop Solas from destroying the world. No, this would need to be part of the main plot.
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 14, 2020 1:15:31 GMT
Solas plans to destroy the world by bringing down the veil. There is no way to do that without making it the main plot. "A series of sidequests" isn't going to cut it. I don't know if I'm fully down with this whole "Solas world destroying" arc. I really would like to go back to more simple, intimate stories. Hawke & crew just trying to survive in Kirkwall !
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Post by andydandymandy on May 14, 2020 1:43:46 GMT
Solas plans to destroy the world by bringing down the veil. There is no way to do that without making it the main plot. "A series of sidequests" isn't going to cut it. I don't know if I'm fully down with this whole "Solas world destroying" arc. I really would like to go back to more simple, intimate stories. Hawke & crew just trying to survive in Kirkwall ! No Dragon Age game can give every fan what they want. That isn't possible (fandom isn't a monolith, everyone wants different things).
But what Dragon Age needs to do a better job of, is paying off their long running plot threads and sticking the landing. They've already invested a ton of time and build up into this Solas plot, and the payoff needs to be worth it. They can't worry about the fact that some fans prefer more "smaller more intimate stories" verses the "big grand stories", because they are not going to be able to please everyone. What they can (and should) do is pay off the stories they are already investing a ton of time into.
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Post by NotN7 on May 14, 2020 2:29:55 GMT
My hope is DA4 is all about the war with the qunari and tiventer and very little about Solas setting the stage when Solas is confronted in DA5, to me trespasser did set things up to that extent but then again I could be wrong as my departed wife always says I am (women got to love them)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 14, 2020 2:31:14 GMT
My hope is DA4 is all about the war with the qunari and tiventer and very little about Solas setting the stage when Solas is confronted in DA5, to me trespasser did set things up to that extent but then again I could be wrong as my departed wife always says I am (women got to love them) Sorry for your loss.
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Post by NotN7 on May 14, 2020 2:33:53 GMT
My hope is DA4 is all about the war with the qunari and tiventer and very little about Solas setting the stage when Solas is confronted in DA5, to me trespasser did set things up to that extent but then again I could be wrong as my departed wife always says I am (women got to love them) Sorry for your loss. Thank you and hehe us men in the eyes of women well......are always wrong sorry not trying to be sexist (k taking foot out of mouth)
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 14, 2020 13:44:45 GMT
I don't know if I'm fully down with this whole "Solas world destroying" arc. I really would like to go back to more simple, intimate stories. Hawke & crew just trying to survive in Kirkwall ! No Dragon Age game can give every fan what they want. That isn't possible (fandom isn't a monolith, everyone wants different things).
But what Dragon Age needs to do a better job of, is paying off their long running plot threads and sticking the landing. They've already invested a ton of time and build up into this Solas plot, and the payoff needs to be worth it. They can't worry about the fact that some fans prefer more "smaller more intimate stories" verses the "big grand stories", because they are not going to be able to please everyone. What they can (and should) do is pay off the stories they are already investing a ton of time into. I agree in general, if they're really going forward with Solas then they should deffinitely finish the damn thing. Afterwards though, I think we can do without saving the world for at least a couple of titles
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 20, 2020 3:14:29 GMT
God I really hope they kill the Inquisitor. I hope they kill Solas too.
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