Post by capn233 on Oct 24, 2016 3:28:57 GMT
28 August 2012 peddroelm posted:
Preliminary Reegar test (seems to shoot 8 pellets and not ignore armor)
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Reegar X 66 damage
25% WD EB weapon add-on
10% WD shotgun amp III gear
Calculated damage per shot/pellet/ ?
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.1) = 89.1
Tests vs Silver cannibal
Remaining HP after 1 ammo fired
Results are inconsistent but they are all multiples of what I calculated as base damage..
Cannibal's constant dancing around might be causing pellets to miss ..
1350 - 904.5001 = 445.4999 = 5* 89.1
1350 - 993.6 = 356.4 = 4 * 89.1
1350 - 1082.7 = 267.3 = 3 * 89.1
Time to test Ravager (a much more docile and immobile test subject)
5400 - 5163.6015 = 236.3985
5400 - 5163.6015
5400 - 5163.6015
Always consistent ...Problem is how is it calculated ?
(66*(1+0.25+0.1) - 30) * 0.5 = 29.55 //expected damage per pellet vs silver armor DR
236.3985 / 29.55 = 7.9999 Reegar Fires 8 pellets ??
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Next test Destroyer (maybe devastator mode accuracy boost will help with testing)
Reegar X 66 base damage (25% WD EB + accuracy choke)
Devastaror mode 30% WD bonus
passive 27.5 % WD bonus
1650 shields (-500 with missile)
AP ammo III (30% Ammo Damage 70% AP)
Shotgun Amp III (10% WD)
Estimated single shot damage vs Gold armor DR
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 606.6
And vs health
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1) * 8 = 1016.4
time to put it to the test
VS gold ravager
8100 - 7483.4023 = 616.5977
7483.40234375
7483.40234375
Consistent results .. but the calculated value its a bit off (10 points)
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 606.6 ?????
Devastator mode off
Expected
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 527.4
Measured
8100 - 7562.6015 = 537.3985
Again same 10 damage point difference .. What am I missing ?!?@?!?!?
10/ 8 = 1.25 - damage per pellet is off by 1.25 in both cases
Seems I'll need to test vs cannibal and check damage per pellet ...
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Raptor X aimed shot (DM off,)
8100 - 7996.1225 = 103.8775
(97.7 * 0.3) + (97.7 * (1 + 0.275)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7)) = 138.8775 // calculated
(97.7 * 0.3) + (97.7 * (1 + 0.275)) - (50 * (1 - 0)) = 103.8775 //accounting for the AP ammo bug OK
No additional damage multipliers
Will call this one inconclusive... More tests tomorrow ...
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More destroyer tests - vs silver Geth
Reegar X 25% WD eb no secondary weapon no accuracy choke
Densified ammunition 4% WD
30% WD DM
27.5% WD Passive
Calculated damage vs health
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 8 = 984.72
Calculated damage vs shield
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 2 * 8 = 1969.44
Calculated damage vs silver 30 armor DR
((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275)) - 30) * 0.5 * 8 = 372.36
silver geth trooper health 1238 (table)
silver geth prime 7875 shields /11250 armor (table)
To the test
Geth Trooper Health ( 1237.5 health observed in game)
Measured
1237.5 - 252.7799 = 984.7201 OK EXCELLENT
1237.5 - 252.7799 = 984.7201
Calculated
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 8 = 984.72
Geth Prime shield
First shot
7875 - 6640 = 1235
Second shot
7875 - 6146 = 1729
Third shot
7875 - 5899 = 1976
Calculated
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 2 * 8 = 1969.44 OK
I WOULD CALL THIS OK (keep in mind 8 shield to integer rounding occurred there)..
Also notice how "pellets can miss" at point blank range from a target as massive as the geth prime with a class with accuracy bonus ...
Geth Prime Armor
First shot
11250 - 10924.1855 = 325.8145
Second Shot
11250 - 10 877.6406 = 372.3594
((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275)) - 30) * 0.5 * 8 = 372.36 OK
Overall I'm pretty satisfied with what I've gotten from Reegar so far so for the time being I will stop reegar tests.. Conclusions bellow
Preliminary Reegar test (seems to shoot 8 pellets and not ignore armor)
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Reegar X 66 damage
25% WD EB weapon add-on
10% WD shotgun amp III gear
Calculated damage per shot/pellet/ ?
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.1) = 89.1
Tests vs Silver cannibal
Remaining HP after 1 ammo fired
Results are inconsistent but they are all multiples of what I calculated as base damage..
Cannibal's constant dancing around might be causing pellets to miss ..
1350 - 904.5001 = 445.4999 = 5* 89.1
1350 - 993.6 = 356.4 = 4 * 89.1
1350 - 1082.7 = 267.3 = 3 * 89.1
Time to test Ravager (a much more docile and immobile test subject)
5400 - 5163.6015 = 236.3985
5400 - 5163.6015
5400 - 5163.6015
Always consistent ...Problem is how is it calculated ?
(66*(1+0.25+0.1) - 30) * 0.5 = 29.55 //expected damage per pellet vs silver armor DR
236.3985 / 29.55 = 7.9999 Reegar Fires 8 pellets ??
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Next test Destroyer (maybe devastator mode accuracy boost will help with testing)
Reegar X 66 base damage (25% WD EB + accuracy choke)
Devastaror mode 30% WD bonus
passive 27.5 % WD bonus
1650 shields (-500 with missile)
AP ammo III (30% Ammo Damage 70% AP)
Shotgun Amp III (10% WD)
Estimated single shot damage vs Gold armor DR
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 606.6
And vs health
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1) * 8 = 1016.4
time to put it to the test
VS gold ravager
8100 - 7483.4023 = 616.5977
7483.40234375
7483.40234375
Consistent results .. but the calculated value its a bit off (10 points)
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.3 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 606.6 ?????
Devastator mode off
Expected
((66 * 0.3) + (((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.275 + 0.1)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7))) * 0.5)) * 8 = 527.4
Measured
8100 - 7562.6015 = 537.3985
Again same 10 damage point difference .. What am I missing ?!?@?!?!?
10/ 8 = 1.25 - damage per pellet is off by 1.25 in both cases
Seems I'll need to test vs cannibal and check damage per pellet ...
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Raptor X aimed shot (DM off,)
8100 - 7996.1225 = 103.8775
(97.7 * 0.3) + (97.7 * (1 + 0.275)) - (50 * (1 - 0.7)) = 138.8775 // calculated
(97.7 * 0.3) + (97.7 * (1 + 0.275)) - (50 * (1 - 0)) = 103.8775 //accounting for the AP ammo bug OK
No additional damage multipliers
Will call this one inconclusive... More tests tomorrow ...
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More destroyer tests - vs silver Geth
Reegar X 25% WD eb no secondary weapon no accuracy choke
Densified ammunition 4% WD
30% WD DM
27.5% WD Passive
Calculated damage vs health
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 8 = 984.72
Calculated damage vs shield
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 2 * 8 = 1969.44
Calculated damage vs silver 30 armor DR
((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275)) - 30) * 0.5 * 8 = 372.36
silver geth trooper health 1238 (table)
silver geth prime 7875 shields /11250 armor (table)
To the test
Geth Trooper Health ( 1237.5 health observed in game)
Measured
1237.5 - 252.7799 = 984.7201 OK EXCELLENT
1237.5 - 252.7799 = 984.7201
Calculated
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 8 = 984.72
Geth Prime shield
First shot
7875 - 6640 = 1235
Second shot
7875 - 6146 = 1729
Third shot
7875 - 5899 = 1976
Calculated
66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275) * 2 * 8 = 1969.44 OK
I WOULD CALL THIS OK (keep in mind 8 shield to integer rounding occurred there)..
Also notice how "pellets can miss" at point blank range from a target as massive as the geth prime with a class with accuracy bonus ...
Geth Prime Armor
First shot
11250 - 10924.1855 = 325.8145
Second Shot
11250 - 10 877.6406 = 372.3594
((66 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.04 + 0.3 + 0.275)) - 30) * 0.5 * 8 = 372.36 OK
Overall I'm pretty satisfied with what I've gotten from Reegar so far so for the time being I will stop reegar tests.. Conclusions bellow