Peddro's "Bug : Like the Atlas - Ravagers also suffer from double/triple hit issues "
Oct 24, 2016 9:49:30 GMT
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 24, 2016 9:49:30 GMT
peddroelm
Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:28 AM
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Last night while doing some testing on the new Reckoning content with corlist when we stumbled upon this:
(testing crusader vs ravager will give an inflated sense of performance)
(pretty sure scions suffer from this also - will test later)
All tests were done on the same forever healing ravager that had the venom sacks already popped ..
Spitfire VII (HVB V ; 25% WD) vs gold ravager
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((67.3-53.8)/9)*(7-1)+53.8 = 62.8 base damage
TC OFF
24957ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
// triple hit
196ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
19ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
// double hit
165ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
140ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
69ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
94ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
76ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
103ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
// double hit
94ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
Hit vs gold armor
(62.8 * (1 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =73.5
penetrating hit
(62.8 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =42.1 // HVB penalty
TC ON
124ms | ravager armour damage: 123.740234
//triple hit
60ms | ravager armour damage: 123.740234
0ms | ravager armour damage: 72.244141
17ms | ravager armour damage: 72.244141
(62.8 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.8)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 123.74
(62.8 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.8)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =72.244
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Claymore X (+ HVB, 25% WD) ALL 8 pellets double hit vs ravager
TC OFF
616866ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
13ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
30ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
0ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
26ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
22ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
27ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
18ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25) - 50 * (1 - 0.65) = 291.5
(206 * 0.7 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.65)) =198.8
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Crusader V (HVB +25% WD) should have no damage loss
(((788.4 - 630.7) / 9) * (5 - 1)) + 630.7 =700.79
//no cloak double hit
290821ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
0ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
//no cloak double hit
3624ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
0ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
(700.79 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.65)) = 1033.685
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Weapon CSMG X (mag + HVB) vs ravager (double hits)
90% piece 40% penalty
640032ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
39ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
40ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
70ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
((51.5 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.05)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9))) * 1.5 = 77.668125
(51.5 * 1.05 * 0.6 * ((1 + 0.05)) - 50 * (1 - 0.9)) * 1.5 = 43.600875 OK
Test on collector adept. Notice the multiplicative 5% collector weapon bonus
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PPR X (HVB)
26ms | ravager armour damage: 23.444336
1ms | ravager armour damage: 12.066895 //ravager double hit
25.8 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.05 + 0) - 50 * (1 - 0.9) = 23.4445
25.8 * 1.05 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.05 + 0) - 50 * (1 - 0.9) = 12.0667
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Lancer VI (HVB) LOL TRIPLE HIT FROM SLIGHTLY ABOVE
(((84.8 - 67.9) / 9) * (6 - 1)) + 67.9 =77.29
//triple
190131ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
15ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
//triple
430ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
11ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
//triple
334ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
21ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
// double
25ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
(77.29 * (1 + 0.05 + 0)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 76.1545
(77.29 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.05 + 0)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 43.6927
Lancer is not a collector weapon
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Edited by peddroelmz, 28 February 2013 - 10:20 AM.
Posted 28 February 2013 - 08:28 AM
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Last night while doing some testing on the new Reckoning content with corlist when we stumbled upon this:
(testing crusader vs ravager will give an inflated sense of performance)
(pretty sure scions suffer from this also - will test later)
All tests were done on the same forever healing ravager that had the venom sacks already popped ..
Spitfire VII (HVB V ; 25% WD) vs gold ravager
---------------------------------------------
((67.3-53.8)/9)*(7-1)+53.8 = 62.8 base damage
TC OFF
24957ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
// triple hit
196ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
19ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
// double hit
165ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
140ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
69ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
94ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
76ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
103ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
// double hit
94ms | ravager armour damage: 73.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 42.100098
Hit vs gold armor
(62.8 * (1 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =73.5
penetrating hit
(62.8 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =42.1 // HVB penalty
TC ON
124ms | ravager armour damage: 123.740234
//triple hit
60ms | ravager armour damage: 123.740234
0ms | ravager armour damage: 72.244141
17ms | ravager armour damage: 72.244141
(62.8 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.8)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 123.74
(62.8 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.8)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) =72.244
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Claymore X (+ HVB, 25% WD) ALL 8 pellets double hit vs ravager
TC OFF
616866ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
13ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
0ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
30ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
1ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
0ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
26ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
22ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
27ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
1ms | ravager armour damage: 291.500000
18ms | ravager armour damage: 198.799805
206 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25) - 50 * (1 - 0.65) = 291.5
(206 * 0.7 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.65)) =198.8
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Crusader V (HVB +25% WD) should have no damage loss
(((788.4 - 630.7) / 9) * (5 - 1)) + 630.7 =700.79
//no cloak double hit
290821ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
0ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
//no cloak double hit
3624ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
0ms | ravager armour damage: 1033.683594
(700.79 * (1 + 0.25 + 0.25)) - (50 * (1 - 0.65)) = 1033.685
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Weapon CSMG X (mag + HVB) vs ravager (double hits)
90% piece 40% penalty
640032ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
39ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
40ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
70ms | ravager armour damage: 77.667969
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.601074
((51.5 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.05)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9))) * 1.5 = 77.668125
(51.5 * 1.05 * 0.6 * ((1 + 0.05)) - 50 * (1 - 0.9)) * 1.5 = 43.600875 OK
Test on collector adept. Notice the multiplicative 5% collector weapon bonus
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PPR X (HVB)
26ms | ravager armour damage: 23.444336
1ms | ravager armour damage: 12.066895 //ravager double hit
25.8 * 1.05 * (1 + 0.05 + 0) - 50 * (1 - 0.9) = 23.4445
25.8 * 1.05 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.05 + 0) - 50 * (1 - 0.9) = 12.0667
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Lancer VI (HVB) LOL TRIPLE HIT FROM SLIGHTLY ABOVE
(((84.8 - 67.9) / 9) * (6 - 1)) + 67.9 =77.29
//triple
190131ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
15ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
//triple
430ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
11ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
//triple
334ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
1ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
21ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
// double
25ms | ravager armour damage: 76.153320
0ms | ravager armour damage: 43.691895
(77.29 * (1 + 0.05 + 0)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 76.1545
(77.29 * 0.6 * (1 + 0.05 + 0)) - (50 * (1 - 0.9)) = 43.6927
Lancer is not a collector weapon
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Edited by peddroelmz, 28 February 2013 - 10:20 AM.