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Post by Heimdall on Feb 12, 2021 13:11:37 GMT
New lore video on the Legion of the Dead!
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Post by parsival on Feb 18, 2021 16:39:49 GMT
I agree that Maric's recruitment of the Legion in David Gaider's novel was an extremely unlikely event that seemed to contradict their strictures and tenets. Was a decent reason ever given? I suppose simple friendship can be a powerful motivator and there will always be exceptions to every rule. It's a shame it never gets referenced in the games, but I guess there is a lot else to focus on.
Anyway - keep up the good work!
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 18, 2021 17:23:59 GMT
I agree that Maric's recruitment of the Legion in David Gaider's novel was an extremely unlikely event that seemed to contradict their strictures and tenets. Was a decent reason ever given? I suppose simple friendship can be a powerful motivator and there will always be exceptions to every rule. It's a shame it never gets referenced in the games, but I guess there is a lot else to focus on. Anyway - keep up the good work! I don’t think any has been provided. I got the sense that the original idea might have been to have the Legion of the Dead more broadly focused on achieving glorious death in battle rather than being very Darkspawn specific. Maybe the dwarven surface taboos weren’t as much of a thing at the time he was writing either.
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Post by necrowaif on Feb 18, 2021 17:57:33 GMT
I don't think it had an explanation beyond "Maric was just that charismatic." Keep in mind he managed to woo an Orlesian bard sent to kill him and a Grey Warden mage who despised humans.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 18, 2021 18:44:16 GMT
New lore video on the Legion of the Dead! I thought I'd just mention that besides the anomaly in the novel concerning the Legion of the Dead, there is also the backstory behind one of the DAMP characters, Korbin. Not only does that not strike me as a terribly dwarven sounding name but he told the Inquisition when he joined them that he was formerly of the dwarven Warrior Caste who voluntarily joined the Legion of the Dead. When Josephine did a bit of digging through her diplomatic contacts she discovered that he was sentenced to the Legion for killing a noble, so that seems normal enough. Then Leliana poked around a bit more and discovered that it was possible he had taken responsibility for a crime committed by another, so his assertion that he had joined the Legion voluntarily was partly true as he voluntarily allowed himself to be sentenced for another person's crime. That's as far as they got with researching his background. Now what struck me as odd about this story was that no reason was given as to why he left the Legion and came topside. If he didn't want to remain in the Legion and it was that easy to get to the surface, why didn't he do so before? How did he even know about the Inquisition? (I suppose you could argue he joined after the events of the Descent). The Legion is answerable to the King, so wouldn't you have to get permission to leave? Or is he simply a deserter? Did the King ask for volunteers to be sent to aid the Inquisition? It seemed strange enough that any dwarf from Orzammar would have voluntarily exiled themselves to the surface to serve the Inquisition but for someone to abandon the Legion does seem odd. Any ideas on that one?
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Feb 18, 2021 19:00:45 GMT
What microphone do you use? I need to get one myself when I start making Youtube Videos, and yours sounds good enough . I don't think it had an explanation beyond "Maric was just that charismatic." Keep in mind he managed to woo an Orlesian bard sent to kill him and a Grey Warden mage who despised humans. Well to be fair, that was the explanation in Origins when the Warden recruited them too
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 18, 2021 23:13:45 GMT
New lore video on the Legion of the Dead! I thought I'd just mention that besides the anomaly in the novel concerning the Legion of the Dead, there is also the backstory behind one of the DAMP characters, Korbin. Not only does that not strike me as a terribly dwarven sounding name but he told the Inquisition when he joined them that he was formerly of the dwarven Warrior Caste who voluntarily joined the Legion of the Dead. When Josephine did a bit of digging through her diplomatic contacts she discovered that he was sentenced to the Legion for killing a noble, so that seems normal enough. Then Leliana poked around a bit more and discovered that it was possible he had taken responsibility for a crime committed by another, so his assertion that he had joined the Legion voluntarily was partly true as he voluntarily allowed himself to be sentenced for another person's crime. That's as far as they got with researching his background. Now what struck me as odd about this story was that no reason was given as to why he left the Legion and came topside. If he didn't want to remain in the Legion and it was that easy to get to the surface, why didn't he do so before? How did he even know about the Inquisition? (I suppose you could argue he joined after the events of the Descent). The Legion is answerable to the King, so wouldn't you have to get permission to leave? Or is he simply a deserter? Did the King ask for volunteers to be sent to aid the Inquisition? It seemed strange enough that any dwarf from Orzammar would have voluntarily exiled themselves to the surface to serve the Inquisition but for someone to abandon the Legion does seem odd. Any ideas on that one? Good question. I’m not sure if there are any specifics as to when the MP characters join up, but if it came after Corypheus revealed himself that may explain it. The dwarves might not buy into the story of the magister’s becoming the first darkspawn, but if they start getting reports of a darkspawn mage threatening the surface (and their vital supply lines) they may feel the need to the address the issue. Hence Korbin may have received permission to go to the surface for that reason, given that darkspawn killing is usually the only reason such permission is given.
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Post by necrowaif on Feb 19, 2021 0:11:34 GMT
I should note that there is a war table operation (Gain Orzammar's Friendship) available once you reach Skyhold where it's mentioned that the new king (Bhelen or Harrowmont) pledges several warriors from the Legion of the Dead to the Inquisition's service. dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Gain_Orzammar%27s_FriendshipGranted, Korbin can be seen at Skyhold regardless of whether that war table operation is completed, but one can assume that is how he came to the surface to fight for the Inquisition.
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