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Post by Iddy on Dec 15, 2021 14:50:03 GMT
I'm phrasing this in the future tense because s/he never actually had the chance to make this decision, since Solas ruined all retirement plans.
But where does your character want to go after everything is said and done?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 15, 2021 17:15:58 GMT
I'm phrasing this in the future tense because s/he never actually had the chance to make this decision, since Solas ruined all retirement plans. But where does your character want to go after everything is said and done? I gue4ss it migh tdepend on th characte rfor example does their clan survive the events of DAI as if you mak ethe wrong choices Clan Lavellan can end up dead. I fthe clan dies and of course they end up deciding t oromancing Cullen then I can see them transition themselves into life as a city elf. If the clan do essurvive it's posible they do go back to the clan after a while but as I asid I thin kit's down t othe character you're RP ing and the choices they make. I'm not really suer with my current Lavellan that I have on the go but that's mainl ybecaus eI don't really know what the fate of her clan will be yet. Though she is developing a soft spot for Cullen so it could turn out either way.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Dec 15, 2021 18:35:15 GMT
I see them hanging out with their LI and that wouldn't be excepted in dalish elf clans as your LI is either not an elf, and elf who hates elves that are too elfy, or solas who leaves you so I guess you could go back if you had no romance or have a a genocidal lover leave you. Still I think the inquistor when exposed to everything wouldn't be able to go back again as they are changed.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Dec 15, 2021 19:38:31 GMT
Mine always married Sera or the times when the LI was Josephine, whoever it was they would spend part of their year living in Skyhold, and either Kirkwall with Sera (because she was made a noble there by Varric just to piss off the bigots and to annoy Sera a bit) or Antiva City if they were with Josephine.
If the clan was still around they would visit when they could, but they still had an inquisition to run regardless if it was disbanded or made into the Divine's Honor Guard and who became Divine Victoria. There is a Dread Wolf to hunt down after all.
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Post by ThatDamnableRogue on Dec 15, 2021 20:33:15 GMT
Snickered at "Solas ruining all retirement plans"
Well, it's been awhile since I've played Trespasser, so I might be misremembering some details, but don't members of Clan Lavellan end up on the city council of Wycome? Idk if that means the Dalish have fully integrated into the city or if they've just... set up camp outside the city walls, sent ambassadors to be on the council, and otherwise keep to themselves but for trading with the people of Wycome.
Either way, my Dalish Inquisitor is overjoyed to return to her Clan after being surrounded by Andrastians and resisting assimilation for 2-3 yrs. She married Sera, and I like to imagine my Inky taking Sera to meet the Clan, and she's kind of nervous about how it will go but she's also really excited to see her family and friends again, and Sera just brushes it off and acts like she doesn't care to hide the fact that she's nervous too, but she thinks it's kind of adorable how happy her wife is to see her Clan again, but is also nervous that she'd choose Clan Lavellan over Sera if Sera is rejected. And then, when they finally return, Sera is shocked and a little embarrassed when the Clan welcomes her with open arms. That's my happy-ending-headcanon, anyway. Maybe they keep in touch with Clan Lavellan and establish contact with the Wycome branch of Red Jennies and like, incorporate the Jennies into their search for Solas somehow. (My Inky disbands the Inquisition.)
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Post by Iddy on Dec 17, 2021 15:41:54 GMT
There is a Dread Wolf to hunt down after all. And after that?
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Post by adonniel on Dec 18, 2021 3:11:46 GMT
I feel, for the Inquisitor their experience and transformation was too life changing to re-assimilate into either of these groups or to reclaim a regular life pattern of a standard citizen. They'd likely feel out of place settling down to milk cows as the morning job and then lazily chit chatting with the neighbors in the sun till noon and residing at the single place for thirty more years. They've seen too much and they'd be restless.
I can see them either picking up another cause to follow or mixing more with the types of mismatched and diverse groups they've gotten used to in Inquisition, almost like the boundaries of the narrow minded communities wouldn't fit them anymore and they'd be confused why they feel so weird almost like they miss the time when the world went crazy even though they'd be happy they don't need to fight for survival any longer.
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Post by sageoflife on Dec 19, 2021 1:17:46 GMT
My Lavellan plans to bring the knowledge of the Vir'Abelesan to all elves, although she relinquished her position as First due to the geas.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 19, 2021 9:25:57 GMT
First run, I messed up the War Table mission so my clan were massacred. She was romancing Solas and he left her. So by Trespasser she was an emotional wreck. Whatever she does is going to depend on what happens to Solas as she is still pathetically devoted to him, although she won't let him destroy the world. She would never happily be a city elf though, not unless circumstances drastically changed and since she got Cassandra as Divine, that is unlikely to happen. She may have a privileged life due to her previous position but at the end of the day she is still an elf and a mage, so unlikely to be accepted by ordinary people. Really she has nowhere she can really call home.
Second run, my male Lavellen did the War Table mission right so his clan is helping run Wycome, the party capital of Thedas, so likely much more easy going than the majority of cities. He is a rogue and Leliana is an Inspired Divine, so everything is favourable. They have the backing of the Viscount of Kirkwall as well. I imagine that his clan will gradually integrate with the city elves, with each learning from the other, which is what the codex in DAO said the Dalish hoped would be the case in the future. His position within the clan is complicated by the fact that he is gay and romancing Dorian but they have been able to accept that he is not your typical Tevinter Magister and with Lavellan's encouragement Dorian has freed all his slaves (which is now official according to Tevinter Nights). Even so, this Lavellan is still a Dalish at heart. He was a hunter for the clan and values their traditions of survival. So far as he is concerned, it doesn't matter what their ancestors were; the Dalish have their own traditions based on what they value and his vallaslin are a reflection of that. Their meaning has changed from the mark of slaves to the mark of the "elves who would not submit", which is ironic but something he can be proud of. When he went to the Arlathvhen he took with him all the elven items he had amassed during his time with the Inquisition for distribution among the clans. He warned them about Solas and that he should not be trusted, just as they have always maintained about Fen'Harel. He prays that they will heed his warning and not be beguiled by the old trickster. In addition to maintaining the search for Solas, he continues to work to improve the lot of elves across Thedas, using the influence he gained as Inquisitor.
Please note his attitude and that of his clan towards city elves is a reflection of what we were told in DAO, not like that of the Keeper in Masked Empire. They are not lost to the Dalish but rather the Dalish keep their customs and traditions preserved so that one day all elves will benefit. Also, they believe that if they ever have a homeland again, the city elves may have something to teach of their own as to how to interact with humans peacefully, although judging by the city elf experience in game, I'm not sure how much the city elves will be able to help with that. It is true of Wycome, though, so it is something they can build on from the example there.
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Post by bear on Dec 21, 2021 10:08:08 GMT
My Solasmancing Lavellan who managed to save her clan will want to, gently and diplomatically have a one on one with Keeper Deshanna (or other leftovers if didn't manage to save the - whole - clan) and heavily invested in convincing her of the error of worshipping the elven gods as gods. While also warning her/them of not being persuaded by Solas' dreams of returning the world to a pre-Veil state, despite him being right on the issue of rebellion against the dominant system of pre-Veil elvhen society.
I can't see LavellanInQ being succesful at persuading most of his clan or other Dalish, though, aside from maybe her own keeper (I never played a full male elf playthrough) and a handful of others. Too much of their common identities, what little self-worth they have, is tied up in believing in a past that never was, a past where their ancestors were not oppressed. They were just oppressed by the oldest, first (?) elves who were declared gods.
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Post by Iddy on Dec 21, 2021 23:54:16 GMT
My Solasmancing Lavellan who managed to save her clan will want to, gently and diplomatically have a one on one with Keeper Deshanna (or other leftovers if didn't manage to save the - whole - clan) and heavily invested in convincing her of the error of worshipping the elven gods as gods. While also warning her/them of not being persuaded by Solas' dreams of returning the world to a pre-Veil state, despite him being right on the issue of rebellion against the dominant system of pre-Veil elvhen society. I can't see LavellanInQ being succesful at persuading most of his clan or other Dalish, though, aside from maybe her own keeper (I never played a full male elf playthrough) and a handful of others. Too much of their common identities, what little self-worth they have, is tied up in believing in a past that never was, a past where their ancestors were not oppressed. They were just oppressed by the oldest, first (?) elves who were declared gods. I imagine they would ask for proof.
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Post by bear on Dec 22, 2021 10:48:56 GMT
My Solasmancing Lavellan who managed to save her clan will want to, gently and diplomatically have a one on one with Keeper Deshanna (or other leftovers if didn't manage to save the - whole - clan) and heavily invested in convincing her of the error of worshipping the elven gods as gods. While also warning her/them of not being persuaded by Solas' dreams of returning the world to a pre-Veil state, despite him being right on the issue of rebellion against the dominant system of pre-Veil elvhen society. I can't see LavellanInQ being succesful at persuading most of his clan or other Dalish, though, aside from maybe her own keeper (I never played a full male elf playthrough) and a handful of others. Too much of their common identities, what little self-worth they have, is tied up in believing in a past that never was, a past where their ancestors were not oppressed. They were just oppressed by the oldest, first (?) elves who were declared gods. I imagine they would ask for proof. Sure, that would be my thinking as well, that they would ask for proof. I just don't see most of her clan neccesarily believing the proof. Either because they think the LavellanInq has been "culturally corrupted/misguided" (in their eyes) by the Inquisition/Chantry, or that they simply think the evidence cannot possibly say what it does. IRL, you have alot of evidence for several things actually existing or happening/having happened in both science, history and other fields, yet you also have people who simply reject the proof, usually because they're invested socially, economically, culturally, ideologically or religiously in the proof being wrong. Not in a conspiratorial or "evil" or deliberate sense, just that if your identity is tied up in your family, clan, nation, people's, belief system's history... and that history isn't what you thought it was, that it paints you in an - even to you - worse rather than a better light, it will be that much harder to accept that proof.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 27, 2021 16:14:43 GMT
First run, I messed up the War Table mission so my clan were massacred. She was romancing Solas and he left her. So by Trespasser she was an emotional wreck. Whatever she does is going to depend on what happens to Solas as she is still pathetically devoted to him, although she won't let him destroy the world. She would never happily be a city elf though, not unless circumstances drastically changed and since she got Cassandra as Divine, that is unlikely to happen. She may have a privileged life due to her previous position but at the end of the day she is still an elf and a mage, so unlikely to be accepted by ordinary people. Really she has nowhere she can really call home. Second run, my male Lavellen did the War Table mission right so his clan is helping run Wycome, the party capital of Thedas, so likely much more easy going than the majority of cities. He is a rogue and Leliana is an Inspired Divine, so everything is favourable. They have the backing of the Viscount of Kirkwall as well. I imagine that his clan will gradually integrate with the city elves, with each learning from the other, which is what the codex in DAO said the Dalish hoped would be the case in the future. His position within the clan is complicated by the fact that he is gay and romancing Dorian but they have been able to accept that he is not your typical Tevinter Magister and with Lavellan's encouragement Dorian has freed all his slaves (which is now official according to Tevinter Nights). Even so, this Lavellan is still a Dalish at heart. He was a hunter for the clan and values their traditions of survival. So far as he is concerned, it doesn't matter what their ancestors were; the Dalish have their own traditions based on what they value and his vallaslin are a reflection of that. Their meaning has changed from the mark of slaves to the mark of the "elves who would not submit", which is ironic but something he can be proud of. When he went to the Arlathvhen he took with him all the elven items he had amassed during his time with the Inquisition for distribution among the clans. He warned them about Solas and that he should not be trusted, just as they have always maintained about Fen'Harel. He prays that they will heed his warning and not be beguiled by the old trickster. In addition to maintaining the search for Solas, he continues to work to improve the lot of elves across Thedas, using the influence he gained as Inquisitor. Please note his attitude and that of his clan towards city elves is a reflection of what we were told in DAO, not like that of the Keeper in Masked Empire. They are not lost to the Dalish but rather the Dalish keep their customs and traditions preserved so that one day all elves will benefit. Also, they believe that if they ever have a homeland again, the city elves may have something to teach of their own as to how to interact with humans peacefully, although judging by the city elf experience in game, I'm not sure how much the city elves will be able to help with that. It is true of Wycome, though, so it is something they can build on from the example there. Yeah sometimes I forge twh oneeds t odo what in orde rfor the Clan t osurvive so in a lot of my playthrough's the clan does end up dead. They're still alive in my current one though but I haven't finished that quest chain yet.
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Post by Sokemis on Jan 5, 2022 14:40:21 GMT
Something inbetween - She doesn't go back to live with her clan, but neither does she give up her Dalish identity. It's not so much that she doesn't want to go back, but more that she doesn't feel she can. After everything that's happened, I think that it would be hard to just go back to her old life as if nothing had changed. She had already given up her place as Keeper's First and as accepting as Clan Lavellan seems to be, don't know how accepting they would be of her marrying and having kids with a human ex-Templar...
I see her and Cullen settling down on a farm in Ferelden. I honestly think that both of them would appreciate the routine, quiet, and simpleness. She continues to help in the community as a healer and probably eventually as some sort of leader/elder type figure. She would visit her clan when she could and gets to know and visit/work with the local clan(s), sharing knowledge between them as she goes. Trains her daughter and one son in their magic and her other son in (non-magical) healing, continues to raise her daughter (Cullen's stepdaughter) in the Dalish ways/beliefs, and teaches her sons the same while Cullen teaches them about Andraste and the Maker. (I can just imagine that last part, raising the kids with both beliefs, going over well with the local Revered Mother - especially when you add in the fact that one of the boys has a Tevinter Magister as a godfather - and Lalani just being like "Oh you say that we can't do that and the Chantry won't allow it. Well let's just send a raven to our friend Pope Leliana Divine Victoria and see what she thinks...")
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 20, 2022 23:56:41 GMT
I think... my Lavellan wanted to go home to her clan, and would never in her life identify as a "city elf", but her experiences wielding the levers of power in Thedas ended up convincing her that her efforts with the other Inquisition members could ultimately do more to serve and protect the world, and her own people by extension.
And that as such, abandoning those unique opportunities to change civilization from the inside simply because Clan life would feel more natural and comfortable to her would in fact ultimately be shirking her duty to that same clan. Because her happiness and feeling like she is where she belongs isn't as important as protecting them and making the world a better and safer place for them to travel through.
She romanced Solas, but even if she'd fallen in love someone else, or Solas hadn't wussed out and made his own plans, there still wouldn't have been any thoughts of retirement. Dalish don't "settle down". She was raised and trained from the manifestation of the first spark of her magic to be the First to her Keeper, and someday a Keeper herself, and that's a lifelong prospect. It's her purpose. What she was born and bred to do. Even if she isn't with them, there's still no excuse not to spend every waking day of her life serving The People to whatever extent she can. To her mind, if she didn't do that, she might as well not exist.
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Post by Quickpaw on Mar 21, 2022 4:19:32 GMT
Assuming the Clan survives the wartable AND whatever chaos the Dread Wolf inflicts, he'd likely spend his downtime between his Kirkwall and Wycome estates, being a member of Wycome's Elvhen Council. The revelations of the nature of Arlathan and the Evenuris, combined with Solas's recruitment tactics, would also spur him to encourage a reformation of Dalish society, reducing their bigotry against "flat ears" and reclaiming parts of the Dales, Kocarri Wildes, and the Frostbacks for legitimate land to settle.
He'd also probably petition his vhenan Cassandra to grant him Seeker training, to give him an edge against Solas. And Dagna for a runic prosthetic arm.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 26, 2022 6:12:59 GMT
None of the above. She hooks up with her hubby Iron Bull and is working with the his merc group, putting holes in fools. 😋
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Post by Liadan on Apr 15, 2022 16:15:46 GMT
It depends on my Lavellan.
Aislin Lavellan is mostly a city elf now. She was a hunter and although she loved her clan, she never cared about tradition or the Dalish ways. She loved traveling to new places and new cities while doing her missions to the inquisition, loved meeting all different types of persons and learn new things and she also felt at home at Skyhold among all her new friends and coworkers. She romanced Solas and when he told her the truth about the Vallasin she agreed to have hers removed without a second though. I see her living in Kirkwall while issuing orders for the shadow Inquisition and figuring out a way to convinced Solas from going through with his plans.
Raven Lavellan on the other hand is a Dalish at heart and i see her going back to her clan. She was the Keeper`s first and she always upheld the Dalish traditions and revered the Creators. She didn`t liked being away from her clan and was very uncomfortable about being called the Herald of a religion she didn`t followed. She also romanced Solas and refused to have the Vallasin removed as it was part of her identity, of who she was, and she was proud to wear it. She was heartbroken after discovering the truth about the Evanuris and the Dread Wolf. I see her living most of the time in Wycome with her clan, when she`s not traveling to other clans to warn them about the Dread Wolf, while making plans with the shadow Inquisition to stop Solas.
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Post by cribbian on Apr 22, 2022 17:00:05 GMT
Since helping Solas wasn't an option mine would go back to the Dalish and lead them to elven glory herself.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 23, 2022 0:20:09 GMT
I'm phrasing this in the future tense because s/he never actually had the chance to make this decision, since Solas ruined all retirement plans. But where does your character want to go after everything is said and done?
Mine always want to marry and be with their love interests be with them no matter where they are from or go to and according to coda and thanks to Varric to making her a noble and giving her a home in Kirkwall that is pretty much what happens to my Inquisitors (elven, human, dwarf, or qunari). She gets married and publicly retires but instead now works in the shadows to bring down the Dread Wolf Solas.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Apr 25, 2022 19:39:43 GMT
The story of the Inquisitor hasn't fully concluded, but I fully expect my Lavellan to visit her clan at Wycome, while not planning Solas' downfall. She has always been one to make tough decisions, and, unfortunately, deciding to broker a historic alliance with the Qunari led to a tragic outcome for her love life. It's too bad she couldn't forgive her previous lover's crimes, and he was executed, so she has to get by on the occasional Varric-hug.
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