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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 26, 2022 21:30:05 GMT
Perhaps the threadtitle is a bit weird but no i don´t want Quarians for Dragon Age. But maybe it would wiser if Bioware doesn´t design Dreadwolf with DLCs in mind who were teased in the main game. Don´t get me wrong i like my Shadow Broker, Omega (to be fair a more disappointing DLC) and Trespasser but what if Bioware don´t have the change to made those DLCs like the afromentioned Quarian Ark. So maybe more Hakkon and Decent then Trespasser. And last but not least please no more exclusive item DLC limited to something else you have to buy. Like this DAI horse who was and still is exclusive to Logitech.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 26, 2022 23:23:36 GMT
Considering all the species on the Quarian Ark, all the “teases” (there were only a couple) were for the book and a sequel never DLC.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Oct 27, 2022 7:25:13 GMT
Perhaps the threadtitle is a bit weird but no i don´t want Quarians for Dragon Age. But maybe it would wiser if Bioware doesn´t design Dreadwolf with DLCs in mind who were teased in the main game. Don´t get me wrong i like my Shadow Broker, Omega (to be fair a more disappointing DLC) and Trespasser but what if Bioware don´t have the change to made those DLCs like the afromentioned Quarian Ark. So maybe more Hakkon and Decent then Trespasser.
The thing with Trespasser is that material was originally planned as post-game material for the main game, but they decided that they couldn't do it justice there and bumped it to DLC. I guess they also could have taken out the cut scene between Solas and Flemeth, but that was such an amazing cliff-hanger I'm glad they didn't.
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Post by fairdragon on Oct 27, 2022 7:55:02 GMT
if they release any content after the game. I hope for something like Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening, Fire emblem three houses - Cindered Shadows or Dragon Age: Origins - Warden's Keep.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 27, 2022 8:46:43 GMT
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 27, 2022 11:09:04 GMT
But it was just a horse. We got another horse in the vanilla game anyway. I never knew about any Logitech horse, so I never needed to bother. The only thing that bothers me is Bioware's cliffhanger endings. Feels like castrated story and not what I'm looking for when I play story games.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 27, 2022 19:02:12 GMT
Considering all the species on the Quarian Ark, all the “teases” (there were only a couple) were for the book and a sequel never DLC. I disagree. It would more sense that the Quarian Ark show up in Andromeda 1 along with other arks than in an Andromeda 2. Also i don´t think that we have seen all the species of the Quarian Ark. Just one or two along with Quarians of course. , but that was such an amazing cliff-hanger I'm glad they didn't. I agree but what if we never a continuation like in Andromeda? That´s the point of the thread. Cliff Hangers and teased stuff are great if they have the chance to be made. I wish Dreadwolf success but maybe it would be wiser to design this game with no such stories in mind aka make a complete game like DAO (minus the plot with Morrigan at end perhaps) But it was just a horse. We got another horse in the vanilla game anyway. I also disagree here. This maybe just another horse skin but it looks way more unique compared to others. I am mad that we still have no option to buy it or after all these years get it for free like the promo DLCs for DAO and DA 2.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Oct 27, 2022 23:35:04 GMT
Other than The Blood Dragon Armor DLC and some krogan heads mounted on a few castle walls in DAI, and an ogre statue in ME2: Kasumi Stolen Memories DLC BioWare really hasn't cross over Dragon Age and Mass Effect. The thing with the head mounts and the statue are in-jokes for fans of both franchises and also for the devs themselves to get a giggle from and nothing more. This isn't meant that in DAD we should be expecting for a quest where we see Wrex/Grunt or Drack show up wanting to find their missing scouts and demanding our help. That's for a few laughs and nothing else.
Also they haven't used The Blood Dragon Armor DLC since ME3 and I never seen or plans to make it in DAI or in MEA either. I thought BioWare just gave it up because of the engine and console switches or maybe fans were bored of it or something.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Oct 28, 2022 0:52:03 GMT
I do agree that ending on a cliffhanger of the main plot would not be ideal. I'd like DW to definitely tie up Solas' story (or at least this chapter of it if he somehow ends up alive and relevant to future events) and tie up the overarching elven plot that has been being built up for threegames. I'm not sure how I'd feel about the game being all "You defeated Solas/changed his mind, but OH NO an Evanuris has escaped anyway into the shadows! *cut to credits and wait for DA5*". Like, it could work, I guess. But I'm keenly aware of both Anthem's fail and ME:A's abandonment, plus the super long wait for DA4, and it just feels like DA5 is much less of a sure thing than ever before. So yeah, please don't end it without resolving everything major. Like minor mystery, ok. But no closure to the plot we've been teased with for a decade is a heck of a gamble.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 28, 2022 5:19:31 GMT
It’ll have a complete ending in the vanilla game. Then ruin that story and toss it and the protagonist aside like trash for a glorified commercial you have to pay for that gives absolutely no new information.
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Post by ClarkKent on Oct 28, 2022 6:19:14 GMT
The story DLCs are usually pretty great and they make for a nice wind down before the inevitable five year wait for the next Mass Effect.
No cliffhangers though - resolve the story in the main game please.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 28, 2022 8:49:08 GMT
Maybe we get games that become more superficial and bland because people get riled up about superficial shit like this.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 28, 2022 19:48:10 GMT
BioWare really hasn't cross over Dragon Age and Mass Effect.
What are you talking about? This thread isn´t about crossover. So yeah, please don't end it without resolving everything major. Like minor mystery, ok. What is minor for you? I would prefer that we won´t even get teased side stories like Shadow Broker or Omega for DAD But stuff like Tallis, Hakkon or the Decent is totally fine in my opinion. The story DLCs are usually pretty great and they make for a nice wind down before the inevitable five year wait for the next Mass Effect. Most of them are great but if we don´t get DLCs for DAD? After Andromeda i won´t be much confident that DAD Story DLCs are guaranteed to happen.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Oct 29, 2022 15:00:08 GMT
I agree 100 percent with the OP. I like DLCs and expansions well enough but the main game should still feel like a complete experience without them. It left a very sore taste in my mouth when MEA was put out to pasture without any singleplayer DLC that was teased throughout the course of the game. Both ME and DA have been guilty of teasing DLC in their vanilla games but up until MEA bioware would deliver. With DAD leave nothing up to chance. Wrap up the story you want to tell at launch. Additional DLC afterwards is fine and even welcome but the game should feel complete without it.
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Post by Beerfish on Oct 29, 2022 16:38:00 GMT
The Quarian Ark landed in Tevinter thus tipping the scales in favor of tevinter in their battle with the horned devils Qunari and reapers were then sent in to crush the qunari and send them scuttling back out of par vollen back to where they came from.
At least this would be my cross over if I was lead writer.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2022 17:43:13 GMT
I agree 100 percent with the OP. I like DLCs and expansions well enough but the main game should still feel like a complete experience without them. It left a very sore taste in my mouth when MEA was put out to pasture without any singleplayer DLC that was teased throughout the course of the game. Both ME and DA have been guilty of teasing DLC in their vanilla games but up until MEA bioware would deliver. With DAD leave nothing up to chance. Wrap up the story you want to tell at launch. Additional DLC afterwards is fine and even welcome but the game should feel complete without it. How was it teased throughout the game? The Quarian Ark was mentioned twice: once by Tann who said they’ll be here eventually since they were part of the second wave, and after that only the postgame garbled message and conversation about it which very much was more a teaser for the book since the person said “they’ll have to rely on their Pathfinder” which is what the book did.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Oct 29, 2022 17:54:51 GMT
I agree 100 percent with the OP. I like DLCs and expansions well enough but the main game should still feel like a complete experience without them. It left a very sore taste in my mouth when MEA was put out to pasture without any singleplayer DLC that was teased throughout the course of the game. Both ME and DA have been guilty of teasing DLC in their vanilla games but up until MEA bioware would deliver. With DAD leave nothing up to chance. Wrap up the story you want to tell at launch. Additional DLC afterwards is fine and even welcome but the game should feel complete without it. How was it teased throughout the game? The Quarian Ark was mentioned twice: once by Tann who said they’ll be here eventually since they were part of the second wave, and after that only the postgame garbled message and conversation about it which very much was more a teaser for the book since the person said “they’ll have to rely on their Pathfinder” which is what the book did. A book should never take the place of what should have been in game dlc especially for content that teased in game. Books are fine for adding more context to what we already know but they should not replace in game content. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 29, 2022 19:10:55 GMT
How was it teased throughout the game? The Quarian Ark was mentioned twice: once by Tann who said they’ll be here eventually since they were part of the second wave, and after that only the postgame garbled message and conversation about it which very much was more a teaser for the book since the person said “they’ll have to rely on their Pathfinder” which is what the book did. A book should never take the place of what should have been in game dlc especially for content that teased in game. Books are fine for adding more context to what we already know but they should not replace in game content. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did. Both of those other plot threads you mentioned BioWare devs stated were going to be a part of the mega story that traversed multiple games, so we can’t say those were dropped or abandoned just yet. As for the Quarian Ark book, it didn’t replace a DLC but just gave more context to something mentioned in the game just like the insurrection story.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 29, 2022 21:27:55 GMT
How was it teased throughout the game? Come on. One of the major story arcs is about the Arks. So its only self-evident that the last missing Ark will be featured more in a DLC than Andromeda 2. So what? The Shadow Broker was also only mentioned by Liara in ME 2 and retake Omega only in a few Aria lines. A teaser for the book? Please this was only a prequel to coming events which will of course only happen ingame. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did. Exactly i could pick some other unused theme as thread title. It doesn´t matter but i chose the Quarian Ark because regardless what Hanako thinks it was the most speculated story for a Andromeda 1 DLC.
So again can we focus more on DAD and its coming DLCs than debating what DLCs could have been made for Andromeda?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Oct 29, 2022 21:39:52 GMT
How was it teased throughout the game? Come on. One of the major story arcs is about the Arks. So its only self-evident that the last missing Ark will be featured more in a DLC than Andromeda 2. So what? The Shadow Broker was also only mentioned by Liara in ME 2 and retake Omega only in a few Aria lines. A teaser for the book? Please this was only a prequel to coming events which will of course only happen ingame. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did. Exactly i could pick some other unused theme as thread title. It doesn´t matter but i chose the Quarian Ark because regardless what Hanako thinks it was the most speculated story for a Andromeda 1 DLC.
So again can we focus more on DAD and its coming DLCs than debating what DLCs could have been made for Andromeda? I agree, at the end of the day DAD needs to be a fully fleshed out experience that leaves us feeling satisfied once we dealt with old baldy one way or the other. Let any DLC be dessert after we have finished the main course.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 29, 2022 22:07:26 GMT
I agree, at the end of the day DAD needs to be a fully fleshed out experience that leaves us feeling satisfied once we dealt with old baldy one way or the other. Let any DLC be dessert after we have finished the main course. I think that the first two DAI DLCs are good examples which Bioware could follow. In DAI both the Avvar and the Deep Roads were pretty underused so it make sense to bring them back for a DLC but unlike ME 3 Omega for example those weren´t hinted in DAI.
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Post by NotN7 on Oct 29, 2022 22:54:48 GMT
How was it teased throughout the game? Come on. One of the major story arcs is about the Arks. So its only self-evident that the last missing Ark will be featured more in a DLC than Andromeda 2. So what? The Shadow Broker was also only mentioned by Liara in ME 2 and retake Omega only in a few Aria lines. A teaser for the book? Please this was only a prequel to coming events which will of course only happen ingame. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did. Exactly i could pick some other unused theme as thread title. It doesn´t matter but i chose the Quarian Ark because regardless what Hanako thinks it was the most speculated story for a Andromeda 1 DLC.
So again can we focus more on DAD and its coming DLCs than debating what DLCs could have been made for Andromeda? I agree this is a DAD thread not a Andromeda thread they have their own.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 30, 2022 7:51:16 GMT
How was it teased throughout the game? Come on. One of the major story arcs is about the Arks. So its only self-evident that the last missing Ark will be featured more in a DLC than Andromeda 2. So what? The Shadow Broker was also only mentioned by Liara in ME 2 and retake Omega only in a few Aria lines. A teaser for the book? Please this was only a prequel to coming events which will of course only happen ingame. It wasn't just the quarian ark but Helen Ryder and the Jien Garson murder were both unfinished plot threads we never got any closure on. We spent the game unlocking memories for a "to be continued..." for something that never continued. Those should have come to a conclusion in the game and they never did. Exactly i could pick some other unused theme as thread title. It doesn´t matter but i chose the Quarian Ark because regardless what Hanako thinks it was the most speculated story for a Andromeda 1 DLC.
So again can we focus more on DAD and its coming DLCs than debating what DLCs could have been made for Andromeda? No, that arc was about the missing Arks. The Quarian Ark wasn’t missing because it wasn’t due yet. Liara v Shadow Broker was more than just a couple mentions. She had multiple conversations, a couple quests, not to mention side material setting that up. A teaser for the book which served as a teaser for the next game. You act like BioWare or other gaming companies have never done this before. Then don’t use it as your freaking argument as evidence if you don’t want people discussing it. But fine, here I’ll end it with something simple that even you can understand. Agree with your overall point. The argument you created to support it is shit.
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Post by Serza on Oct 30, 2022 9:50:48 GMT
You receive a distress call at the very end of the game...
Liara had all of one quest and like, three conversation options about the Shadow Broker before the advent of the DLC.
The distress call implies trouble other than the virus, as that is put under control at the end of the book. Overall implication at release was "DLC".
Unwillingness to discuss may or may not be explained if you look at the forum section we're in.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Oct 30, 2022 11:49:09 GMT
No, that arc was about the missing Arks. The Quarian Ark wasn’t missing because it wasn’t due yet. Details just details. It doesn´t thatter that the Quarian Ark was the last one. Therefore you can say that this Ark was missing. Oh right a teaser for a sequel which would have come in 2020 if everything went according to plan. Won´t make more sense if this book would have been a prequel to a DLC?
I guess not because you Hanako are always right and everyone has to obey. Oh right you are the only one again with a complete different opinion so of course everything is wrong. Like it or not i don´t care but the Quarian Ark was and is the synonym for Andromeda DLC what could have been.
Incoming post but why Forbes sucks and this article isn´t representative because of Hanako reasons.
Jeez why are so difficult sometimes? This thread isn´t about Mass Effect or the Quarian Ark. I only use the Quarian Ark because its well known for a Andromeda 1 DLC what could have been. The topic is more about that DAD unlike Andromeda shouldn´t rely that much on DLCs because Andromeda never have an Story DLC and Anthem was also not better.
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