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Post by fairdragon on Jul 10, 2023 12:56:41 GMT
Since I haven't followed the marketing for the previous Dragon Age games, I'm now curious when we can expect the first information on Companions and romance options. What do you think?
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 10, 2023 17:25:01 GMT
On companions it will be when they start to market the game and BioWare has learned and stopped doing a lot of it aside from teases until closer to launch so people don't think it is a promise that is what is in the game. As far as romances go I don't really recall too much marketing based around it, so you would need to search it out after launch when people start finding it on their own. They might give hints about one or two, but the majority isn't there.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jul 10, 2023 18:53:27 GMT
Since I haven't followed the marketing for the previous Dragon Age games, I'm now curious when we can expect the first information on Companions and romance options. What do you think?
Romances lets say 6 months before the release.
The revial of first 2-3 companions (hopeful 3 because 2 would a bit confirm the leak and i prefer 4 over a 3 party ) when they finally shown real gameplay aka the next Crestwood Demo who is unlike the DAI one more representative of the final product.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jul 10, 2023 19:10:10 GMT
If it's anything like Mass Effect Andromeda, we won't know anything concrete about the romances until the release/very close to release. Probably for the best, even if romances are very important to my enjoyment of Dragon Age, it feels cheap and awkward to use that feature as a selling point, when characters, story and gameplay especially are so much more important.
I would like to know whether they are going for '' everyone is bisexual '' route like in DA2 though, or stick with DA:I style distribution of romances. I cannot WAIT for the MESS that will ensue if they are going for the DA:I route.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 10, 2023 19:18:54 GMT
If it's anything like Mass Effect Andromeda, we won't know anything concrete about the romances until the release/very close to release. Probably for the best, even if romances are very important to my enjoyment of Dragon Age, it feels cheap and awkward to use that feature as a selling point, when characters, story and gameplay especially are so much more important. I would like to know whether they are going for '' everyone is bisexual '' route like in DA2 though, or stick with DA:I style distribution of romances. I cannot WAIT for the MESS that will ensue if they are going for the DA:I route. They've already said they’ll never do the everyone is bi like they did in DA2 again.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 10, 2023 19:22:17 GMT
Hard to say since they’ve done it differently with each DA game.
In DAO they were revealed in the character trailers. In DA2 they were all revealed in a Valentine’s Day blog post. In DAI they were revealed differently, like Sera was revealed as lesbian at a cosplay thing when she kissed another lady, Josephine was announced in a dev podcast before we even knew her name, Dorian I think was revealed when he was announced, etc.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 10, 2023 19:29:23 GMT
I think we'll start to see a companion or two with the next trailer (Game Awards?). Then probably the rest will be gradually revealed throughout the year (2024). Romances I imagine we won't know until close to release. I think we knew all of DAI's ahead of release, but I purposefully stopped paying attention to the marketing at some point to avoid spoilers so I'm not quite sure. With MEA, they were very secretive about the romances and I remember people figuring it out based on data mining and hearing from those who had early access.
I doubt they will go back to "everyone is bi" unless they significantly reduce the number of options. I think you need 6+ options to make set sexualities work while also giving players freedom of choice (1 M/F, 1 F/M, 1 M/M, 1 F/F, 2 BI). Otherwise, you have games like CP2077 with 4 options where you can only choose the one romance option that happens to match your gender and sexuality combo.
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Post by githcheater on Jul 10, 2023 20:07:42 GMT
Don't put the cart ahead of the horse. First things first ...
Get a " target" announcement from EA of approximate release date (i.e., Fall 2023 LOL, or Winter 2024 etc.)
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Post by colfoley on Jul 10, 2023 22:22:33 GMT
If we get them probably a month or two before release.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 11, 2023 6:30:04 GMT
Don't put the cart ahead of the horse. First things first ... Get a " target" announcement from EA of approximate release date (i.e., Fall 2023 LOL, or Winter 2024 etc.) Realease date will be 2024 and i hope for more info on the game awards. Hopefully a trailer with realease date but we don't know. I ask because i like to plan. And that would keep me busy for a while.
I hope this game will be good.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 11, 2023 6:52:32 GMT
I would like to know whether they are going for '' everyone is bisexual '' route like in DA2 though, or stick with DA:I style distribution of romances. I cannot WAIT for the MESS that will ensue if they are going for the DA:I route. They've already said they’ll never do the everyone is bi like they did in DA2 again. I like the DAO/DAI rout. If Mess means people complaining then there will be moder helping out. I hope for a good story. DA2 for me the story isn't really good because to little time in development.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 11, 2023 7:31:28 GMT
I don't know about when we'll see the romances, other than 'some time after we get a proper gameplay trailer', but I liked how they announced all the romances at once on Valentine's Day for da2, rather than stringing them out. Even if they don't do them all at once it would be good if they are consistent about it, eg. if one character gets whether they are a romance or not confirmed in a character trailer then do the same for the others.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Jul 11, 2023 8:16:06 GMT
I think I'd actually prefer BW to keep it secret this time & let us find out organically when playing who likes which gender, yes I know some people like to plan their playthoughs, myself included to some degree, but this time, I'd like to leave more to surprise & it'll be impossible once some info comes out, as the net will explode no matter where you go.
Just my opinion
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 11, 2023 9:00:12 GMT
I think I'd actually prefer BW to keep it secret this time & let us find out organically when playing who likes which gender, yes I know some people like to plan their playthoughs, myself included to some degree, but this time, I'd like to leave more to surprise & it'll be impossible once some info comes out, as the net will explode no matter where you go. Just my opinion No thanks. Don’t want to be trapped in a romance that has things I don’t want or learning they aren’t an option so having to backtrack dozens of hours. Not that it matters since even if they never say anything it’ll be out there before the game released due to datamining. That’s what happened with MEA.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 11, 2023 9:24:09 GMT
I think I'd actually prefer BW to keep it secret this time & let us find out organically when playing who likes which gender, yes I know some people like to plan their playthoughs, myself included to some degree, but this time, I'd like to leave more to surprise & it'll be impossible once some info comes out, as the net will explode no matter where you go. Just my opinion No thanks. Don’t want to be trapped in a romance that has things I don’t want or learning they aren’t an option so having to backtrack dozens of hours. Not that it matters since even if they never say anything it’ll be out there before the game released due to datamining. That’s what happened with MEA. I'd think that would be something that would almost happen regardless of whether or not they market it or not with the romances because they probably aren't going to show everything in every romance even if they say 'this person is a sexual option for a male player character'. I mean that general baseline can give you at least a starting point but I don't think it would stop anything like the Jaal situation happening again, for instance.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 11, 2023 9:53:32 GMT
i like to know which characters are romanceable. Regardless of whether I want to do a romance and don't want to waste time on an unromancable character and miss out on the opportunity to romance a different one, or whether I want to tell a unrequited love story and go for a character who I know won't return my characters feelings. I prefer to know.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 11, 2023 13:00:38 GMT
I think I'd actually prefer BW to keep it secret this time & let us find out organically when playing who likes which gender, yes I know some people like to plan their playthoughs, myself included to some degree, but this time, I'd like to leave more to surprise & it'll be impossible once some info comes out, as the net will explode no matter where you go. From what I recall, they didn't tell us about every character in DAI but they did flag up Dorian, which I found helpful when he was flirting with my female Lavellan because I knew it couldn't go anywhere, so didn't burn my bridges with other characters as a result, particularly Solas where you have to take an early heart icon (in the Fade) or you will miss the opportunity to advance it any further. Now people who hadn't seen the advanced information on Dorian's sexual orientation were caught out by this and were understandably upset. So, I am happy for them to allow you to find out about romance potential as you go along but would appreciate being told by the character early on if I am barking up the wrong tree, rather than them stroking their own ego through leading me on. Regardless of whether I want to do a romance and don't want to waste time on an unromancable character and miss out on the opportunity to romance a different one, or whether I want to tell a unrequited love story and go for a character who I know won't return my characters feelings. I prefer to know. As I say above, so long as they don't do another Dorian on female PCs, I am okay with waiting until the game to find out who is interested. I'd also like the other person to initiate the interest occasionally. Nothing too pushy, just the odd compliment or something that would allow me to know they wouldn't be averse to my character, which I can then respond to as appropriate. It isn't always appropriate for my PC to make the first move if that is not their personality.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jul 11, 2023 13:02:57 GMT
My only wish for romances is that they will not repeat the Alistair route. I'll just be nice and polite to him and bangarang, here's a rose.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 11, 2023 13:06:35 GMT
Since I haven't followed the marketing for the previous Dragon Age games, I'm now curious when we can expect the first information on Companions and romance options. Well, let's get an actual release date first, then perhaps some idea of companions, whether potential romances or not. As I've said in my previous post, I'm okay with leaving discovering who I can romance to the game, so long as I am not misled as to their potential interest in my character. However, if they do decide to release information beforehand, I imagine that will be among the last pieces to be revealed.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 11, 2023 13:22:23 GMT
My nly wish for romances is that they will not repeat the Alistair route. I'll just be nice and polite to him and bangarang, here's a rose. I had a similar problem with Merrill. I just complimented her on her eyes and then four years later (in Act 3) she turns up on my doorstep thinking we are an item. Okay, I know I clicked on the heart icon in Act 1 but by Act 3 I was in a relationship with Fenris that had just been restored after a break, so you'd think she would have noticed. To be honest I think this was a bug. Purely for research purposes, I kept the relationship going with Merrill (I had a saved game immediately prior in case it didn't work out) and ended up Fenris declaring his devotion just before the final battle, yet Merrill being named as my romance by Varric in the epilogue, so effectively I had done what should have been impossible and ended up in a relationship with both at the same time. However, with regard to Alistair, whilst the rose can seem annoying, it is possible to let him down gently without affecting your status with him and it was nice to occasionally have the other person make the first move. I also preferred the DAO path where they divided up the general conversations from the romance ones, so I wasn't constantly presented with the dilemma of whether to take the heart icon and risk missing out on other dialogue. Mind you, it did work out as appropriate role play with Solas. He said something that gave me pause and I wanted to question him but there was that heart icon distracting me. I figured he was deliberately giving off subtle hints because he could see my reaction and wanted to avoid further questions, the devious Wolf.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 11, 2023 13:50:06 GMT
I went into DAI without knowing the available romance options but I looked them up once my male Inquisitor flirted a couple of times with Cullen before being turned away. Generally, I don't like to know about every companion and romance before playing a game so there are some surprises. However, given the incredibly long wait for Dreadwolf, I doubt I can avoid looking this time.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jul 11, 2023 13:56:25 GMT
Oof, Merrill. At least you can let her down gently. In Origins, the approval system was getting to me in one playthrough since I tried not to use the Feastday Gifts and just rely on actions and conversations and game gifts. Well, I remember persisting through the Redcliffe, Mage Tower and Sacred Urn quests and Sten still wasn't telling me about his missing sword. I gave up and showered them all with the +50 gifts.
Incidentally, in my current playthrough I'm playing as a female Cousland and Morrigan was suddenly all flirty with me. Thus far Alistair, Leliana and Zevran have made passes at my character. Now Morrigan too?
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 11, 2023 14:16:31 GMT
I guess I am just not one for romance in video games, for the only time I really went down that path except for achievements is Mass Effect 2 for I always got a chuckle from Mordin when giving a warning about Miranda and planting bugs anywhere. A link for anyone that hasn't seen itAs far as Dragon Age, I know David Gaider said they weren't going to do "playersexual" again. The problem is no matter what path they go people are going to get upset. I have always seen complaints about not enough of a specific species, or that a specific person was locked into a hetro/homo sexual romance, or how there were 'x' number of male romances versus 'x' of female romances or the same count for hetro/homo sexual romances. Whatever the group does their math it becomes some attack by EA or BioWare against them. I am to the point I would like to see what happens in one of the BioWare games if they took the resources from romances and just made the characters into a better team. Things like the card scene in Dragon Age: Inquisition was one of my favorites of the game far beyond any of the romances I tried and abandoned half-way through. Player complaints I think is why they keep a tighter lockdown on anything aside from early sketches and such. The Wicked Grace game
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Post by Gwydden on Jul 11, 2023 14:37:33 GMT
As far as Dragon Age, I know David Gaider said they weren't going to do "playersexual" again. The problem is no matter what path they go people are going to get upset. I have always seen complaints about not enough of a specific species, or that a specific person was locked into a hetro/homo sexual romance, or how there were 'x' number of male romances versus 'x' of female romances or the same count for hetro/homo sexual romances. Whatever the group does their math it becomes some attack by EA or BioWare against them. The trick is to get rejected in real life a lot so that if fictional characters turn you down, you can easily shrug it off. Like shrapnel.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jul 11, 2023 15:01:40 GMT
I could be convinced of omitting romances entirely from future installments, as long as the world otherwise stays unapologetically sexually diverse. Romances are just a straight-forward way of doing just that.
But honestly, it'd be quite weird to be such a character-driven RPG where you might hang around ten or so people on the daily for a year, even multiple years, and never even have the question of romance or an otherwise intimate relationship pop up. Like I don't think any intimate friend group where people can potentially be attracted to each other can remain completely unscathed by said topic, but weirder things have happened I suppose.
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