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Post by kalas on Nov 5, 2016 2:26:09 GMT
i started a new game with three trials. (walk softly, grizzly end, and fair weather friends)made it to skyhold without getting any item. how often are you supposed to get an item?
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Post by Evamitchelle on Nov 5, 2016 4:40:10 GMT
It usually takes a while before you start getting any trial rewards when you have only a few of them turned on. Also, trials only 'count' when you actively use them, i.e. for grizzly end, it will only add to your count when you kill bears promoted by grizzly end; walk softly only counts when you kill enemies promoted by walk softly (you can see whether an enemy has been promoted in tactical mode). Fair-weather friends only slightly increases the chance of receiving trial rewards. I'd recommend using 'Even Ground' to speed the process up, as it significantly affects the chance of receiving special shipments, and affects every enemey/creature in the game rather than just a fraction of them like Walk Softly and Grizzly End.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Nov 5, 2016 18:49:14 GMT
Reward drops for Trials a very rare. I had Even Ground, Walk Softly and Grizzly End enabled and I only got maybe 4 drops for the entire main quest. And that included active bear skin hunting. Your mileage may vary.
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Post by ProbeAway on Nov 6, 2016 5:14:32 GMT
The only trial I've had on is rub some dirt on it, which makes healing potions worthless. With healing items and the ability to fast travel I've hardly noticed it on normal. It's in effect every time you fight, too.
I turned it on around level 12. Ten levels later I've received about a dozen rewards.
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Post by roro4066 on Mar 26, 2017 20:29:00 GMT
trials only 'count' when you actively use them, i.e. for grizzly end, it will only add to your count when you kill bears promoted by grizzly end; walk softly only counts when you kill enemies promoted by walk softly (you can see whether an enemy has been promoted in tactical mode). Fair-weather friends only slightly increases the chance of receiving trial rewards. I'd recommend using 'Even Ground' to speed the process up, as it significantly affects the chance of receiving special shipments, and affects every enemey/creature in the game rather than just a fraction of them like Walk Softly and Grizzly End. I have always been sure that the trials rewarding system was working actually differently than what you are pointing. i had noticed that the more trials are on, and the more hit points are taken down from ennemies the fastest rewards will pop. So after having seen that topic, which i found pretty interesting, as well as your posts, i decided to find out how this system is actually working. so i went to emprise du lion and found a decent leveled rift (the one on the frozen lake near the starting camp) to farm some ennemies that have enough hp to give me trials rewards quick enough; with only 2 trials turned on: grizzly end and the other one about your teamates approval. - these 2 trials have nothing to do with rifts and demons. - i don't fight any bear - i don't get disapproval or even approval from my companions. After 5 or 6 waves of demons, i get a reward from the trials system. So i think this prooves your post evamitchelle may actually not be correct altough it could have been right And as i already though before, it may be more "ennemies health points related"....the more hp you get down, the quickest you will get rewards. You might all have alreday noticed that the taugher are your ennemies, the faster you will gain rewards. Hope this makes the thread clearer now |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 27, 2017 20:21:10 GMT
How do you farm a rift? Leave when the second wave emerges and don't close it?
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Post by melbella on Mar 28, 2017 0:21:29 GMT
How do you farm a rift? Leave when the second wave emerges and don't close it?
Pretty much. I've found if I take too long on a wave (usually when under-leveled vs lvl 12 rifts in the Hinterlands  ) then extra waves will spawn.
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Post by roro4066 on Mar 28, 2017 0:21:36 GMT
yes, a very convenient way to gain a lot of a rewards without getting xp when you don't want to level up too fast. you can also easily get the 3 recquired "creature research items" with this method
beat the 2 waves, don't close it and leave... but be carefull to grab all the loots with an other character than your inquisitor, otherwise you will interact with the rift and close it by pressing "A" on the controller when looting or jumping.
by the way i have made further testing about this topic, and it seems "evamitchelle" was actually right.
With only one trial active: grizzly end
I have cleared everything in crestwood including all optional quests
the whole main story "here lies the abyss" was also complete with this trial on
And i farmed about 10 times the nearest rift close to the starting camp in jaws of hakkon
All of that without getting a single reward
Maybe i was not patient enough, but still, this represents quite a lot of health points, so i'm wondering if evamitchelle theory was actually correct.
if someone has a clear idea about all that mess, i buy it...
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Post by roro4066 on Mar 29, 2017 15:20:08 GMT
Pretty much. I've found if I take too long on a wave (usually when under-leveled vs lvl 12 rifts in the Hinterlands ) then extra waves will spawn.
What do you mean? i never got extra waves by taking too long time beating demons. |
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Mar 30, 2017 20:43:17 GMT
Pretty much. I've found if I take too long on a wave (usually when under-leveled vs lvl 12 rifts in the Hinterlands ) then extra waves will spawn.
What do you mean? i never got extra waves by taking too long time beating demons. I've noticed that as well. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's as if you are starting the rift over from the beginning. There's also another way this happens -- if a living demon gets too far away from the rift and you chase after it. If you get a certain distance from the rift, it resets to the beginning. This can happen most often with Despair demons, since they fly away at a random angle. If that angle is directly away from the rift, reset. |
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Post by roro4066 on Mar 31, 2017 15:26:20 GMT
I've noticed that as well. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it's as if you are starting the rift over from the beginning. There's also another way this happens -- if a living demon gets too far away from the rift and you chase after it. If you get a certain distance from the rift, it resets to the beginning. This can happen most often with Despair demons, since they fly away at a random angle. If that angle is directly away from the rift, reset. I know about the certain distance and despair demons, but not about the time needed to beat the rift. |
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