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Post by capn233 on Aug 4, 2016 19:18:39 GMT
Ash didn't have a thread. Her boomstick can be intimidating, so that is probably why.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 4, 2016 19:22:26 GMT
I like her. Tough squadmate
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Post by Blast Processor on Aug 4, 2016 23:34:35 GMT
I really didn't like how they handled Ash in ME2/3 but I was a fan back in the ye olde days of ME1.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 4, 2016 23:47:57 GMT
Yay! Ash thread!!!
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 4, 2016 23:54:28 GMT
I posted this on another forum but thought I'd post it here also; Now I know people have strong opinions about Ashley. Being a long time Ash supporter, I thought I'd post this here. It is a post that was written by Badpie, a Shepley fan fiction writer back in 2010 on the "Ashley Williams for Eternity" support group. In my opinion, it is a excellent concise view of why she liked her character as written by Chris L'Etoile in me1. ------------------------------- - She's vibrant. Totally full of life. She's fiery and energetic and her energy is infectious. - She's beautiful. Totally gorgeous. Elegant features like perfect cheekbones, full lips, big soulful brown eyes, killer eye lashes and let's face it, the cutest nose ever. - She's bad ass in a totally believable way. She's tough, but they didn't make her a cookie cutter "I'm so hot yet so tough yet so tender and all the things plucked from a best of" type of tough. She's tough because she's vulnerable. And strong because she has issues to overcome. She's also physically badass in a way I can believe. You're not gonna see Ash win a fist fight with a Krogan. But you will see her get in a good kick to his quads at the very least. - She's refreshingly flawed. And not flawed in the Miranda or Jack way. Nothing against either of those characters except that they are two sides of Ash just taken, split and amplified because it was too confusing for people to deal with a truly real character that could both ****** them off and make them love her. But I digress. She says offensive things, things that make anyone go "okay wait, hold on" She has opinions that are not shared by me or by my Shepard. She has a martyr complex, daddy issues, a big mouth that often says the wrong thing. My Shepard (and me) have been totally annoyed to **** by her at a couple points. But I love that about her. - She challenges Shepard. She's the only one to ever do this. The only one to ever play devil's advocate with him and speak her mind and stick with her convictions. In ME2, people could disagree with you, but all it took was a charm option to get them to say "maybe you're right." Ash sticks to her guns, and that threatens a lot of manly alpha!Sheps out there who don't like being sassed by no wimmen folk. - She's smart. A lot smarter than she lets on. Her persona comes off sometimes as a brassy marine grunt, something she's probably had to put on in order to make it in the boys' club, but she's incredibly intelligent. - She somehow manages to be an incredibly sexual being without being tarted up. In heavy armor, a military bun and no makeup Ash is able to wield her sexual nature expertly. She's comfortable in her own skin and confident. She's perfectly aware that she's gorgeous, but she only uses that asset on her own terms. Hooray for hellcats. ------------------------------ Remember this was before me3. This is her opinion. But it is shared by me and many of Ash's long time supporters. This is the Ash we fell in love with. This is the Ash that we defended so diligently. I understand the haters will hate. But as we said on the Ash support thread, we support Ash because "Ash is worth it!"
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Post by SGT NOOBSTER on Aug 5, 2016 1:31:05 GMT
Glad that Ash made it over here.
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Post by Lavochkin on Aug 5, 2016 1:46:27 GMT
I really didn't like how they handled Ash in ME2/3 but I was a fan back in the ye olde days of ME1. Same, Ash was one of my faves in ME1 and is the best maleshep 'mance i'd say(especially with renegade dialogue), and I like to consider her Renegade Femshep's BFF there too.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 5, 2016 10:36:55 GMT
Here are some Ash quotes first posted by bsn user Funkcase on the old 1.1 support thread: ''Get up to the bridge skipper, I've got other weapons to check out...Hey skipper before you go I just wanna say.....you know what? I'm not telling.... you wanna hear this your just gonna have to come back to me.'' ''Why is it that whenever someone says with all due respect, they really mean kiss my ass?" Ashley: I didn't know you speak corporate. Shepard: All you do is shove a stick up your ass and care more about money than people. Ashley: That would be a waste of a fine ass, sir. Ashley Williams: Huh. Nobody died. Kaidan Alenko: I could shoot someone if it would make you feel better. Ashley Williams: Nah, I'm good. ''Huh if the Geth are trying to find god I will be happy to speed them up on there way.'' ''Subtle as a boot to the face.'' ''Just because I can drill you between the head from a hundred meters, dose not mean I cannot like sensitive stuff!. Just don't spread it around'' ''Nothing like a nice stroll on the beach Blasting Bad guys with ma Boomstick" "Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't" "Sir do you think you shot him enough?' Shepard: "It's good to know where I stand with the galaxy, where do I stand with YOU?" Ashley: "About a meter away........sorry, I'll be serious." "Commander Shepard.Captain of the Normandy. The first human Spectre. Savior of the Citadel, You're in the presence of a god Delan. Back from the dead." Shepard: What if I ordered you to kiss someone else? Ash: Well if you ordered me to kiss a superior officer that would be in violation of the regs. So I would be forced to decline and relieve you of duty....... sir. Shepard: "We've got oceans, beautiful women, this emotion called love, according to the old vids we have everything they want. Ashley: "If you expect to get me in a tin foil mini skirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first... Uh... sir... " Kaidan: "That'll be enough, Chief." Shepard: "At ease lieutenant, cant see her in a skirt anyway." Ashley: "Damn straight, you cant!" Shepard: "The Geth are perfect ambushers, Williams. They don't make noise, they don't move, they don't even breathe!" Ashley: "Sir, they have flashlight heads" "I'm a hellcat off the battlefield too....Sleep tight Shepard." Shepard: Shut up and get over here. Ash: *playfully* Make me. Ashley Williams: That puts a whole new spin on the phrase "drop on the floor and give me twenty". Commander Shepard: You still sassing' me soldier? I think you need more physical training. Ashley Williams: Tsk. Now, skipper, what will it take to prove I'm in prime condition? "Bold words Shepard, I like bold" Shepard: Think I should go talk to Wrex? Ash: Well it couldn't hurt...well... maybe a little. "Wait...you survived because you're *lazy*?!" Kaidan Alenko: When you put it that way, there's no reason they wouldn't like you. I mean, us! Humans! Ma'am. Ashley Williams: You don't take much shore leave, do you, L-T? Kaidan Alenko: I can see why this place is so popular, it's got quite the..uh....view. Ashley Williams: Hey LT, put your tongue back in your mouth before you trip on it. Ashley Williams: So you still interested in me, baggage and all.. Commander Shepard: Everyone has baggage Ash, the trick is to have a matching set. Ashley Williams: *slight giggle* That's awful, please tell me you got that out of a fortune cookie. ''You are totally shameless, you need your own line of greetings cards *giggles*'' Ashley: *snarky* it's a noble goal, to bad most of your members are just racists! ''Where you at Shanxi?! If not then shut your pie hole! Shepard: What do you want Chief?.. Ashley: Wouldn't mind a foot massage sir....sorry, I will be serious. ''I don't need money, a knight in shining armor or a man to make me happy, this is who I am....I like her *with a smile* and you best too'' ''A Williams has to be better than the best, if only to avoid suspicion'' Ashley: That's when it struck me ''I'm the first person to ever of stood her'' then my drill instructor kicked me in the ass, he spent the next 20 minutes chewing me out for goldbricking. Shepard: Don't tell me you had Gunnery Ellison *laughs* he's the only person I know who uses that term to describe shirking duty. Ashley: *giggles* Ow lord, you went to the Macapá boot camp too? Ashley Williams: So all we have to do is find this Thorian thing and... woah. Commander Shepard: We're gonna need bigger guns.
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Post by pdomi on Aug 5, 2016 16:27:35 GMT
It's great to see this thread continuing the tradition from the old forums!
I have another funny quote to add to the list:
Shepard: "I'm here to put high velocity rounds through bad guys' heads" Ashley: "Most satisfying part of the job, sir!"
Ashley: "Skipper, any interest in a drink? It's a special occasion" Shepard: "With all we've been through lately? Hell yeah!!" Ashley: "I only have enough to toast the day, not the captain"
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Post by opuspace on Aug 6, 2016 4:47:29 GMT
Shepard:...Ash? Ashley:Yeah, skipper? Shepard:Where'd you get that jacket? Ashley:Oh this? Apologies, ma'am, you see, when we left earth, there wasn't much time to grab any gear and- Shepard:No, no, I ask because I want one like that. Do the boots come with the jacket? Ashley:Uh, I don't think the store that sells this outfit is in business anymore. The Reapers really nailed earth hard. Shepard:...We've got to take earth back.
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Post by SGT NOOBSTER on Aug 6, 2016 17:04:06 GMT
Shepard:...Ash? Ashley:Yeah, skipper? Shepard:Where'd you get that jacket? Ashley:Oh this? Apologies, ma'am, you see, when we left earth, there wasn't much time to grab any gear and- Shepard:No, no, I ask because I want one like that. Do the boots come with the jacket? Ashley:Uh, I don't think the store that sells this outfit is in business anymore. The Reapers really nailed earth hard. Shepard:...We've got to take earth back. Funny. Anyone thought about pulling some of the dialogue that Cpt.Data and Aurora313 from the old threads? Those were good, and usually pretty funny.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 6, 2016 17:21:40 GMT
Shepard:...Ash? Ashley:Yeah, skipper? Shepard:Where'd you get that jacket? Ashley:Oh this? Apologies, ma'am, you see, when we left earth, there wasn't much time to grab any gear and- Shepard:No, no, I ask because I want one like that. Do the boots come with the jacket? Ashley:Uh, I don't think the store that sells this outfit is in business anymore. The Reapers really nailed earth hard. Shepard:...We've got to take earth back. Funny. Anyone thought about pulling some of the dialogue that Cpt.Data and Aurora313 from the old threads? Those were good, and usually pretty funny. I wish I knew where to find them. Some posters come up with really golden ones I can't match.
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Post by Larry-3 on Aug 8, 2016 0:42:33 GMT
Ashley is in my top five favorite characters. Actually, top three.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Aug 25, 2016 2:37:24 GMT
The Ash romance in ME3 is one of the worst things in a game with a lot of worst things. I agree she was great in ME1, then she and Kaidan were thrown under the bus in ME2. However, Kaidan is a much more fully developed character in ME3 while Ash is reduced to a one-dimensional clueless shell of her former self. To me it seemed like she had about 10 lines of unique dialogue. Fk you Biovar
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 25, 2016 11:52:07 GMT
The Ash romance in ME3 is one of the worst things in a game with a lot of worst things. I agree she was great in ME1, then she and Kaidan were thrown under the bus in ME2. However, Kaidan is a much more fully developed character in ME3 while Ash is reduced to a one-dimensional clueless shell of her former self. To me it seemed like she had about 10 lines of unique dialogue. Fk you Biovar There are a lot of 'what if's' with Ash. What might have been if Chris L'etoile had been her writer in me2 and me3.
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Post by SGT NOOBSTER on Aug 26, 2016 1:39:52 GMT
The Ash romance in ME3 is one of the worst things in a game with a lot of worst things. I agree she was great in ME1, then she and Kaidan were thrown under the bus in ME2. However, Kaidan is a much more fully developed character in ME3 while Ash is reduced to a one-dimensional clueless shell of her former self. To me it seemed like she had about 10 lines of unique dialogue. Fk you Biovar There are a lot of 'what if's' with Ash. What might have been if Chris L'etoile had been her writer in me2 and me3. Yeah, the VS kinda got the short stick with ME3. Still not as bad as some other characters. And if Chris L'etoile, and others, had not left part way through ME2 a lot probably would have been different.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 26, 2016 2:51:37 GMT
I didn't agree with Ashley/Kaidan being injured on Mars and end up missing half the game. Who would protect the council? Maybe have Udina request Ashley/Kaidan, after Sur'Kesh, for an assignment that won't take long. The rest plays out the same.What's interesting is that Ashley/Kaidan/Tali are guaranteed to know who Kirrahe is, if alive, on Sur'Kesh since the other squadmates may not of met the salarian. I would be curious what Ashley would say to him.
I did a playthrough on insanity mode and saw Ashley beat the crap out of a phantom on Cronos. Outstanding.
She's in most of my playthroughs. To get her back on the ship, I do Menae, Sur'Kesh, turian platoon or rachni, cure/sabotage the genophage and Citadel coup. Once on the ship, she's with me for the rest of the game. I take her to Eden Prime. To the turian bomb mission
A lot of the times she's the one my Shepard talks with during the evacuation scene.
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 26, 2016 11:49:33 GMT
I didn't agree with Ashley/Kaidan being injured on Mars and end up missing half the game. Who would protect the council? Maybe have Udina request Ashley/Kaidan, after Sur'Kesh, for an assignment that won't take long. The rest plays out the same.What's interesting is that Ashley/Kaidan/Tali are guaranteed to know who Kirrahe is, if alive, on Sur'Kesh since the other squadmates may not of met the salarian. I would be curious what Ashley would say to him. I did a playthrough on insanity mode and saw Ashley beat the crap out of a phantom on Cronos. Outstanding. She's in most of my playthroughs. To get her back on the ship, I do Menae, Sur'Kesh, turian platoon or rachni, cure/sabotage the genophage and Citadel coup. Once on the ship, she's with me for the rest of the game. I take her to Eden Prime. To the turian bomb mission A lot of the times she's the one my Shepard talks with during the evacuation scene. It was frustrating . After the long wait from me1 to me3, the terrible horizon scene and the disappointment of her not appearing in Arrival dlc. On top of that having to wait half the game for her to become a active squadmate. I remember trying to figure out what would be the quickest way to get her back on ship. Like you, once on board she was with my Shep constantly.
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Post by straykat on Aug 26, 2016 18:36:08 GMT
Having the VS in Arrival would have made it likable to me. As it is, I just rush through it. I hate that DLC, almost as much as the tournament thing in ME1.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 26, 2016 19:30:47 GMT
I liked the Arrival dlc only to hear Harbinger.
It would've been easy to have Ashley/Kaidan in the dlc. While Shepard is passed out for 2 days, Ashley/Kaidan find Shepard. Shepard and A/K fight through the baddies. Once back on the Normandy, they can have a scene with Shepard and leave with Hackett on his ship
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Post by Balsam Beige on Aug 26, 2016 21:19:55 GMT
I liked the Arrival dlc only to hear Harbinger. It would've been easy to have Ashley/Kaidan in the dlc. While Shepard is passed out for 2 days, Ashley/Kaidan find Shepard. Shepard and A/K fight through the baddies. Once back on the Normandy, they can have a scene with Shepard and leave with Hackett on his ship So true. Wouldn't have been that hard. Also, would have been nice if Bioware had let Kimberly Brooks voice record the email she sent Shepard after Horizon, like she did afterwards, and put it in me2.
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Post by nogroson on Aug 27, 2016 17:49:10 GMT
It's wonderful to find over here again a thread dedicated to Ash. Just as an opening you can find here below a souvenir from Virmire from one of my old playtrough of ME1
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