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So I wanted to do this a while ago but decided it was not proper without at least a release date. Still not sure, but on the flip side we have Dutchs Ghosts running about trolling that this game will be horrible and does not look as good as Witcher 3, and on the other side you have the extreme hype thread. Neither thread is really too quantitative for determining what fans think the game will actually perform. Both are pretty black and white. So, I present this thread for myself and others who do have expectations for the game.
I personally think it will fall into the Tier2-3 camp. Everything I have seen looks at least good, if not fully spectacular.
What I like:
The game looks beautiful so far. Good graphics, minor problems with the face capture notwithstanding, the game does look impressive.
Combat looks fluid, specifically the combat, and your character does like as though they will be able to manuver around the battlefield.
The taking away of Paragon and Renegade makes the dialog more responsive and fluid to character.
Like the list of companions we have seen so far. Getting forward to knowing them.
My own take really looking forward to going into this game relatively blind. Starting over from scratch and letting the roleplay work itself out.
Like the ideas of a much more character driven narrative.
Concerns:
Mac Walters- unfair or not I do blame him for a lot of the problems with the ending.
Three power limit- Its not a big concern but this could become a minor annoyance like it did in DA I.
No replacement for paragon/ renegade- Ditching the system is fine but there should be some way for us to determine the impact our dialog happens, DA does it through companion approval, this is an excellent idea to imitate for ME A.
Iffy:
The Ryder characterization- I have defended this, but recently a thought did occur to me that has me concerned. If they make the twins Space Geralt. Where the dialog options have only a small different of flavor in tone and...effect. IE in Geralt's case...batman. Or Shepard in ME 1 where the dialog options don't really match with what is supposed to say and they are just relatively the same no matter which option you click.
The Profiles: I have loads of theories about this, some I really like, some I would be horrified to witness. Also, my favorite theory...well its on life support after the CES presentation. \
Thoughts?
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Post by dutchsghost7 on Jan 5, 2017 22:57:33 GMT
I voted tier 4.
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Post by PhroX on Jan 5, 2017 23:05:23 GMT
I expect it to be like every Bioware game since BG2 - disappointing in some aspects, but still enjoyable and well worth the money I spent on it.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 5, 2017 23:06:17 GMT
I expect it to be like every Bioware game since BG2 - disappointing in some aspects, but still enjoyable and well worth the money I spent on it. That was before my time.  |
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Post by PhroX on Jan 5, 2017 23:07:42 GMT
I expect it to be like every Bioware game since BG2 - disappointing in some aspects, but still enjoyable and well worth the money I spent on it. That was before my time. Well, I started back with BG1 (albeit a year or so after release). And BG2 is the exception to the rule in my previous post because it was everything I could want as a sequel to the first game  |
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Post by KamenRyder on Jan 5, 2017 23:08:05 GMT
Tier 1 because Bioware hasn't failed me yet.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 5, 2017 23:10:31 GMT
Tier 3-4. I'm sure it will be an enjoyable game, but it has too many flaws to overlook right now.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 5, 2017 23:10:51 GMT
Tier 1 because Bioware hasn't failed me yet. BioWare has given me my favorite game of all time. So Two Tier 1s, Three Tier 2s (if you don't count Awakening) and one Tier 3. |
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Jan 5, 2017 23:14:10 GMT
somewhere between tier-2 and tier-3.
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Post by Vall on Jan 5, 2017 23:15:01 GMT
Tier 1 because Bioware hasn't failed me yet. While I would normally agree, IMHO expecting Tier 2/3 and getting better is better feeling than expecting tier 1 and getting 3 |
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Post by colfoley on Jan 5, 2017 23:19:00 GMT
Tier 1 because Bioware hasn't failed me yet. While I would normally agree, IMHO expecting Tier 2/3 and getting better is better feeling than expecting tier 1 and getting 3 Exactly, but for DA I I was so psyched for the game and it did not let me down, even exceeded my expectations. Though then there was ME 3 which I was psyched for and it was a letdown. |
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Post by Sailears on Jan 5, 2017 23:23:10 GMT
Tier 3.
I'm expecting great and fun combat (especially multiplayer), good characters/cast, fun set pieces, hopefully good environment design and music.
I'm not expecting anything for the main story or anything relating to the "how" and the "why" regarding the Initiative or any characters we meet and their motivations. I am expecting that scratching too deep below the surface will only reveal how tenuous the patchwork is to keep this franchise going.
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Post by Aragorn89 on Jan 5, 2017 23:24:51 GMT
I'm leaning toward Tier 3 myself.
I know it will have bugs and flaws....that's pretty much a given in games nowadays. It's about the fun factor for me though. If it's fun to play then that will be all the better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2017 23:28:12 GMT
I voted Tier 1 and Tier 2, expecting it will be an excellent game that could easily become a classic, but that some people will insist on pulling apart mercilessly - digging up every little tiny flaw and making mountains out of them. With people being so critical over every minute thing that really just goes against their personal preferences, it's very likely that much of the game's WOW factor will get lost amid all the negativity and pessimism here. I don't think it's a problem restricted to this game though... people don't seem to want to allow themselves to be impressed by anything these days. Shame really.
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Post by Gileadan on Jan 5, 2017 23:28:48 GMT
Tier 3 so far, though I feel that I haven't seen enough of the game to evaluate it properly.
What I like: it looks really nice, the Tempest is very sleek and stylish, the planetary surfaces look varied and beautiful, almost better than DAI's already really well done scenery. I'm certain that BioWare will write some companions that I will enjoy bringing along to meet new aliens (and shoot them in the face when necessary). I'm generally a fan of space operas and can't wait to get my hands on a new one.
What I'm not so fond of: animations have been mentioned, but they said they'd fix that, so that won't weigh too heavy right now. I'm not a fan of the profile switching thing, and combat doesn't convince me yet. Especially the nVidia trailer had those 10 seconds of combat at the end that looked like Ryder was just running past some nearly stationary targets, no tactics or cover required. I really hope that was just easiest difficulty or some such.
Wait and see: quality of the PC port and controls as well as quality of side content and side content to main story content ratio. I'll just hope they learned from DAI's reception here.
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Post by javeart on Jan 5, 2017 23:31:17 GMT
I love every BW game, even ME3 (and I did hate the endings), and even DAI, that I'm afraid that the way I talk about it sometimes it seems like I hate it  My least favourite BW game is still among my favourites, and if it MEA wasn't too, I'd be very surprised. Based on that, I voted tier 1 As for what I like and what I don't, or what looks good and interesting to me and what doesn't. Starting with the good things, I'm very happy that we're going to get less loading screen (I really hate them ); I think everything looks gorgeous; I liked having more dialogue options; I like the idea of a crafting system similar to DAI; I hope it's true that side-missions are going to be more "meaty" than in DAI; the profile system is starting to sound well to me (it worried me the first time I heard about it); the big monster fights that we will encounter in every planet also seem fun; I'm ok with 3 active skills Things I need to know more about: different personalities for Scott and Sara, which right now it's my only concern: depending on what this actually means, I can see it being something that could bother me, maybe even a lot But it might be something to which I'm actualy indifferent, can't say yet. Things I can live with: the resource gathering, because I found it absolutely tedious in DAI, but I'm hoping it's going to be better for what I've read about it; driving the nomad; making concessions to move away from the MW The bad thing: I don't really care for big maps (and driving around them), no matter how beatiful they are, I want less exploration and more story. I imagine/hope I will always be able to leave exploration aside if I want, so if the main story is good and the NPCs are interesting, I'll be ok. But the truth it's not the direction I'd like BW games to go. |
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Post by Tiberius on Jan 5, 2017 23:31:42 GMT
The Profiles: I have loads of theories about this, some I really like, some I would be horrified to witness. Also, my favorite theory...well its on life support after the CES presentation. I'm curious. What's your favorite theory? |
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Jan 5, 2017 23:32:02 GMT
Going with Tier 2 as a prediction. Lacking "Wow factor" only because I'm a BioWare games veteran. Played almost everything they've done, so I kind of know what I'm going to get with every new entry. Plus this isn't a new franchise, per se, just a new direction. I'm sure technically it's way ahead of anything we've gotten so far. Obviously I enjoy what they're all about since I keep coming back. It's like my favorite meal; I know exactly what to expect, but they keep using higher quality ingredients each time it's made.
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Post by Muddy Boots on Jan 5, 2017 23:33:12 GMT
I chose 3 because there's no such thing as a perfect game. There will always be something that might irk me, but I can still enjoy the rest of the game just fine. I think Andromeda will be fun for me to play in general, and that's really all I need.
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Post by colfoley on Jan 5, 2017 23:38:58 GMT
I love every BW game, even ME3 (and I did hate the endings), and even DAI, that I'm afraid that the way I talk about it sometimes it seems like I hate it My least favourite BW game is still among my favourites, and if it MEA wasn't too, I'd be very surprised. Based on that, I voted tier 1 As for what I like and what I don't, or what looks good and interesting to me and what doesn't. Starting with the good things, I'm very happy that we're going to get less loading screen (I really hate them ); I think everything looks gorgeous; I liked having more dialogue options; I like the idea of a crafting system similar to DAI; I hope it's true that side-missions are going to be more "meaty" than in DAI; the profile system is starting to sound well to me (it worried me the first time I heard about it); the big monster fights that we will encounter in every planet also seem fun; I'm ok with 3 active skills Things I need to know more about: different personalities for Scott and Sara, which right now it's my only concern: depending on what this actually means, I can see it being something that could bother me, maybe even a lot But it might be something to which I'm actualy indifferent, can't say yet. Things I can live with: the resource gathering, because I found it absolutely tedious in DAI, but I'm hoping it's going to be better for what I've read about it; driving the nomad; making concessions to move away from the MW The bad thing: I don't really care for big maps (and driving around them), no matter how beatiful they are, I want less exploration and more story. I imagine/hope I will always be able to leave exploration aside if I want, so if the main story is good and the NPCs are interesting, I'll be ok. But the truth it's not the direction I'd like BW games to go. Oh I forgot to mention the bit about the true side missions and learning from Witcher in how to do them. Witcher is one of two games I thought that knocked side quests out of the park without squashing the story, the other was DA O. The Profiles: I have loads of theories about this, some I really like, some I would be horrified to witness. Also, my favorite theory...well its on life support after the CES presentation. I'm curious. What's your favorite theory? *has a slight panic attack when he realizes he is talking to a dev. * I had a theory that the profiles were tied to your weapon selection. A lot like how in Dragon Age Origins you could swap out your weapon, say going from a bow and arrow to dual wielding daggers, and get a different set of powers associated for each weapon. Which means for ME A, I thought, that you could have a Sniper Rifle equipped and have say Overload, Tac Cloak, and Remnant VI quipped, but then switch to your AR and then you can have Flak Gun, Concussive Shot, and Adrenaline Rush tied to it. And the game would switch all the passives from one profile to the next based on which profile you assigned to which weapon. So in the first case have an 'Engineer' build and in the second case have more of an Infiltrator build. |
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Post by Sailears on Jan 5, 2017 23:40:23 GMT
I voted Tier 1 and Tier 2, expecting it will be an excellent game that could easily become a classic, but that some people will insist on pulling apart mercilessly - digging up every little tiny flaw and making mountains out of them. With people being so critical over every minute thing that really just goes against their personal preferences, it's very likely that much of the game's WOW factor will get lost amid all the negativity and pessimism here. I don't think it's a problem restricted to this game though... people don't seem to want to allow themselves to be impressed by anything these days. Shame really. Oh I do get impressed with games that deserve it. I won't mention any particular titles as it could drive this thread off topic. To keep things Bioware related, let's just say KotOR was a game that truly impressed me - but otherwise ther just aren't enough games that are on that level anymore. ME2 story did not impress me, only the combat. It was off-track. ME3 was better, but had other issues. Hence I am not expecting to be impressed by the singleplayer story in MEA. |
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Post by Draining Dragon on Jan 5, 2017 23:43:20 GMT
It'll be Tier 3 or Tier 4, like Inquisition.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 5, 2017 23:46:58 GMT
Tier 1 because Bioware hasn't failed me yet. BioWare has given me my favorite game of all time. So Two Tier 1s, Three Tier 2s (if you don't count Awakening) and one Tier 3. Miine too and that's ME2 of course as that'#s my favouriet game at the moment and the ME trilogy is my favourite series of games. I think it'll fall somewhere in the top 3 tiers for certain. I don't think it'll be a bad game at all and in fact I'd like to think it won't have any flaws and will do well and I think in general it will. But there are a few things I've noticed that might worry some people such as the only having 3 active skills at one time not quite so much cover to run in behind to take out asn opponent that sort of thing. In general though so long as it's no more difficult to play than Bioware's other games I'd be willing to overlook most of those shortcomings but some might not. We'll have to wait and see though. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Jan 5, 2017 23:51:15 GMT
50/50 between tier 2 and 3.
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Post by armass81 on Jan 5, 2017 23:52:04 GMT
If its at least Mass Effect 3 caliber, minus the ending and hopefully not too many fetch quests, id say its passed on my book. Now is it an excellent game then? No, to be excellent it would have to combine the feel and story of ME1 but without all the clunky mechanics(ME3 grade combat at least cause it was the best out of the 3) and the half finished look the game had, plus still be able to wow on the character and side mission side. The best of both worlds.
Since Mac Walters is at the helm and that one Bungie guy who left, i think were not going to get the story, unfortunately. I just pray that at least the exploration, characters and combat side is well executed, story wise not holding my breath and you shouldnt either. I mean its not a good sign when the whole premise retcons so much of the established lore, which they still havent got a good checker there(checking MEwikia now and then is not enough guys)
My highest realistic expectation score wise, without the usual site and magazine kissing up they do: 85/100
Lowest: 62/100 Which would be a failure, after 4 years. Dragon Age 2 kind of laziness. Thered just be no excuse.
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