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Post by jnericsonx on Jan 7, 2017 5:11:40 GMT
So as I'm about to start up DAI for the first time on next-gen PS4, as I'd played it before on X360, here's what I'm trying to figure out:
A, Play as a Female Elf Mage to Romance either Iron Bull or Cullen.
B: Play as a Male Human Mage to Romance Cassandra.
Also, can't decide between Knight-Enchanter and Rift Mage?
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 7, 2017 5:27:27 GMT
I've never played KE other than occasionally taking control of Vivienne, but my Trevelyan was a rift mage. I picked it because it seemed like the specialty most closely related to the Green Hand of Glowy Magic, and my Quiz was a young woman who wouldn't have had time to specialize in something else before the circles rebelled.
As far as the romances, Cullen's is very sweet and you get to see him look awkward quite often. Plus the ending of the romance in Trespasser is very well-liked. Iron Bull is the romance I'm currently playing, and while I liked it once it got going (he fit my Cadash's personality very well) it seemed to take a really long time for him to even recognize that Cadash was flirting with him. It was bizarre.
I haven't done Cassandra's romance yet.
What sort of character did you play last time? You might as well go for something completely different.
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Post by jnericsonx on Jan 7, 2017 5:36:38 GMT
My first DAI playthrough was a Female Qunari 2H Warrior who romanced Blackwall.
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Post by thats1evildude on Jan 7, 2017 5:37:08 GMT
Who will you make Divine? That's a factor. Divine Cassandra will ultimately break up with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 5:54:13 GMT
Knight enchanter, to have fade shield. Rift mage for that swagfist.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jan 7, 2017 6:32:19 GMT
I don't really have an opinion about the romances - currently romancing Cassandra but haven't finished yet - but Knight-Enchanter vs. Rift Mage kind of depends on what you want. Knight-Enchanter is a very powerful spec (even after some nerfing in the patches) but doesn't really play like a traditional mage. You'll spend a lot of time in melee range hitting things with your spirit blade. Great fun if you like that sort of thing, but if you prefer a more hands-off, ranged approach then Rift Mage is probably the better bet. It synergizes better with most of the other elemental trees.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 7, 2017 7:55:29 GMT
I just playing with a female elf mage. I specced her into a knight enchanter, because I never did that before. It is really fun, a bit like the arcane warrior in DAO. As a romance I picked Iron Bull, because his character really suites hers. I like the romance so far and I like the interaction leading to it - getting to know the chargers for example (that is not romance stuff per se, but Bull and the chargers are just the coolest mercenary group ever ... well... together with the Serenity-Crew). I'm doing the Cullen romance with another mage, a human, but he is a bit boring imo. Don't get me wrong, he is a good written character with a great stoy arc over the three games and a lot is going on with him right now, with him leaving the templar, trying to free himself from the lyrium addiction. I just like it better, if the LI can go to quests with you and is more directly involved. Plus Cullen is more the shining knight in armor romance type - that is ok, if you go for that, in that case I would say go for Cullen instead of IB, but I personally like more the funny, carefree, cheeky rogue. The human mage is specced as a rift mage and that is a really fun to play spec too. It's a bit more classical for a mage.
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Post by kittytheshegeek on Jan 7, 2017 8:36:47 GMT
Knight-Enchanter is AWESOME. You end up being such a powerhouse by the end of the game.
All three of those romances are really great, so it's really personal preference. Cullen is more typical romance for sure, and Iron Bull is more... different lol it's funny and cute and sassy... it's definitely worth doing his romance even if you don't choose him first. I haven't done cassandra's romance myself, but she's one of my favourite characters and I've watched all the cutscenes online and she has actually tempted me to play a male Inquisitor xD
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 7, 2017 19:15:27 GMT
Here's how to decide on which mage spec: - KE - all about barrier regen, and with the Blade of Tidarion, melee & magic
- Rift Mage - all about mana regen and crowd control -- if you enjoying smashing mooks to the ground and never letting them up again, this is for you
- Necromancer - all about health regen and damage -- Necro is now the highest damage dealer of the mage specs, and can even give some warrior specs a run for the money on damage level
I dunno, a female elf seems kind of a mismatch for both IB and Cullen. I think human is better for Cullen, fits the "traditional romance" mold better, and I think IB is better with a male. So I guess that means go for Cass then.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 7, 2017 21:56:52 GMT
I had an absolute blast playing a Knight Enchanter. It meant I was both a warrior and a mage, best of both worlds. That was my male elf mage who romanced Cassandra. They were great together in dragon hunts, they really didn't need anyone else. Whatever race you play, if you are opting to be male, and want to romance a female, I would definitely go with Cassandra. You get to see an entirely different side to her.
I haven't romanced either Cullen or Iron Bull but if you are going with a female elf, then I'd definitely do Solas because it is exclusively elf and unless you are playing your Dalish as something of a rebel against her upbringing, it fits a lot better with her background. Failing that, if you want a traditional sort of romance without too much angst and a happy ending, then I'd go with Cullen.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jan 7, 2017 22:40:08 GMT
I dunno, a female elf seems kind of a mismatch for both IB and Cullen. I think human is better for Cullen, fits the "traditional romance" mold better, and I think IB is better with a male. So I guess that means go for Cass then. That's what I'm feeling too; female elf with Cullen, though not strongly opposed to it. It's their backgrounds that's a bit difficult, especially with the strong feelings most of the human populace hold against elves. There doesn't seem to be a happy / moderately happy example of such a pairing in DA. Maric with Fiona; breakup because he's a king and he couldn't be seen with an elven wife, she's a warden, etc. They didn't even tell Alistair who is his mother. Arianni who had a son, Feynriel, with Vicento who dropped her the moment she told him she's pregnant. I doubt Cullen would do such a thing but I've a feeling his family might have a lot to say. IB isn't on the romance list (mine, I mean). Cass, who can refuse Cass?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2017 22:55:24 GMT
Is blade of tidarion even good? I have better staffs like encore and hakkon's wisdom...
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Post by melbella on Jan 7, 2017 23:10:20 GMT
I dunno, a female elf seems kind of a mismatch for both IB and Cullen. I think human is better for Cullen, fits the "traditional romance" mold better, and I think IB is better with a male. So I guess that means go for Cass then. That's what I'm feeling too; female elf with Cullen, though not strongly opposed to it. It's their backgrounds that's a bit difficult, especially with the strong feelings most of the human populace hold against elves. There doesn't seem to be a happy / moderately happy example of such a pairing in DA. Maric with Fiona; breakup because he's a king and he couldn't be seen with an elven wife, she's a warden, etc. They didn't even tell Alistair who is his mother. Arianni who had a son, Feynriel, with Vicento who dropped her the moment she told him she's pregnant. I doubt Cullen would do such a thing but I've a feeling his family might have a lot to say. IB isn't on the romance list (mine, I mean). Cass, who can refuse Cass?
I didn't have any issues like that in my Dalish elf Cullenmance. Aravas was a bit more....eh, experienced, shall we say, and didn't fall for all of Solas' razzle dazzle. She preferred someone more grounded in reality instead of the fade.
Overall I didn't really like the Iron Bull romance. It started out as WTF and finished kind of meh. I like him better as a buddy.
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Post by phoray on Jan 8, 2017 3:09:15 GMT
so. I personally adore Cullen to bits. Because he is an advisor, he is there with your Inky at every major moment. Celebration walk at the end game where everyone cheers? You get a hug. Take that, "proud gaze from afar" Blackwall. Also, only two LIs get the option of a video game wedding.
Also. I am specifically importing a world state where Cullen had a crush on my Warden Surana in Origins, which is the elven mage. He doesn't see "race" because mages were mages in the Circle. (Try not to look at the race gating as his true preference, it was a money/time issue.) So, in that world he has a precedent for being attracted to elven mages, I like how it ties in. I don't think his family would say a thing, and don't forget, you're the Inquisitor who saved the world. That carries weight, even if only in your lifetime.
Cassandra is also a sort of advisor, until Skyhold. Pre Skyhold, and arrival at Skyhold, kinda felt like I was getting the same advisor benefits. But it tapers off after that because she isn't actually an advisor, obviously. I haven't finished hers. But I am very aware that she breaks it off with Inky if she becomes Divine. And guess what? I feel like the worst boyfriend for not supporting her on that. I've been having to be real non committal on the Divine Topic with her since that part of the game came up. :/
When it comes to specialization, I'm kinda terrible at that. But Knight Enchanter seemed the easiest to figure out and has actually been useful. I use the spirit blade, fire, and center of the tempest and enjoy it, compared to the slog that was rift mage and the useless that was necromancer.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jan 8, 2017 3:45:10 GMT
Is blade of tidarion even good? I have better staffs like encore and hakkon's wisdom... Compared to those two, no, they are better. But again, the question is, do you want to be an Arcane Warrior Lite, who is in the front line swinging a "sword", or do you want to be in the back flinging spells? If in the back, don't go KE. Like I said, if melee is most important to you, go KE. If crowd control is most important to you, go Rift Mage. Otherwise, go Necro. You can of course build a KE to be a spell flinging boss, and there are some neat tricks with Chaotic Focus that makes that interesting, but ultimately, it's a compromise, because you're not utilitizing the specialization skills that make KE a melee mage. Why compromise when you can use a full-on spellcaster through Rift Mage or Necro? If that's what you want to be.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 8, 2017 15:20:59 GMT
I'm currently playing a FemQunari KE romancing Iron Bull. Personally I can't say I'm too into the romance, I chose it because a female Qunari has very limited options.
I do recommend KE though. Spirit Blade is a load of fun, I recommend using Fade Step with it.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 8, 2017 18:10:57 GMT
Iron Bull is the romance I'm currently playing, and while I liked it once it got going (he fit my Cadash's personality very well) it seemed to take a really long time for him to even recognize that Cadash was flirting with him. It was bizarre. Oh, he's aware. He just wants to make sure you're sure you know what you're getting into.
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Post by phoray on Jan 8, 2017 18:43:32 GMT
Iron Bull is the romance I'm currently playing, and while I liked it once it got going (he fit my Cadash's personality very well) it seemed to take a really long time for him to even recognize that Cadash was flirting with him. It was bizarre. Oh, he's aware. He just wants to make sure you're sure you know what you're getting into. But he'll lay a Chantry sister with very little preamble. Maybe he tries to ignore it because boffing your boss isn't a very good idea. So, he has to be more interested than just a roll in the hay before he'll break that professional line.
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Post by vertigomez on Jan 8, 2017 18:59:45 GMT
Oh, he's aware. He just wants to make sure you're sure you know what you're getting into. But he'll lay a Chantry sister with very little preamble. Maybe he tries to ignore it because boffing your boss isn't a very good idea. So, he has to be more interested than just a roll in the hay before he'll break that professional line. Yeah, but when he mentions the others he says he just lets them "bounce around on top" and get it out of their system. He wants to go a little more in-depth with the Inquisitor, so if they become disinterested when he doesn't immediately respond to their flirting, it's probably for the best. Also as of Haven he's still very much a spy, so probably he's still considering whether or not it'd be a wise idea to get in your bed.
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Post by Finvola on Jan 9, 2017 19:11:26 GMT
I love playing as a KE, it's a lot of fun. I've picked rift mage before, but enjoyed KE much more. I like being able to fight melee and it feels pretty badass. Elf females have the most romance options out of everybody, but given the choice between Cullen or IB I would go for Cullen. Bull is okay, but I think a Cullen romance is much better.
I haven't done a Cassandra romance yet, every time I play as a male I end up with Dorian even though I say I'm not and going to try a romance with Cass instead. I haven't played as a male too often. I do plan on being a human noble male for a Cass romance though. Hopefully I won't get sidetracked by Dorian again.
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Post by mikoto on Jan 9, 2017 22:04:59 GMT
I personally prefer a human female Rift Mage who romances Cullen, but then again I like the 'traditional' mage build that fires powerful and/or crowd control/AoE spells from a distance while the sword/shield warrior tanks, and the 2H warrior helps deal damage. And the rogue? Eh I'm sure its doing something other than die a lot but I never see it. Its a big, total shame there isn't any healing magic at all in DAI, let alone a Spirit Healer specialization because I loved my mixed-mage builds in DAO and DA2. Its DAI's biggest flaw IMO. Especially when healing magic is mentioned as a thing several times in the game by npcs. Why can't Trevelyan cast healing magic?
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Post by cooldude on Jan 11, 2017 18:54:47 GMT
i like Knight Enchanter(KE), because i'm a Star Wars fan, and you're practically a Jedi as a KE
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