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Post by onlinevirus on Jan 27, 2017 21:46:58 GMT
How is it that SAM an AI is allowed on Hyperion although AIs aren't allowed by Citadel? The Andromeda Initiative was started (if I assume correctly) by Citadel races so how is it that they were allowed to create an AI?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 21:48:30 GMT
Some corporations are allowed by the Council to work with AIs under very controlled conditions. For example Synthetic Insights.
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Post by onlinevirus on Jan 27, 2017 21:50:20 GMT
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 21:53:07 GMT
Thank you You're welcome. Glad I could help.  We don't know if the Alliance Initiative is allowed, but yeah the precedent is there in the lore. |
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 27, 2017 22:02:17 GMT
I highly doubt dadryder received the all green from the Council to create a potential mind altering AI from scraps…
The Turian Councillor would have popped a vessel at the sole idea, just to begin with. The Salarian Councillor instead would have levelled the planet where the server stood.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 22:09:20 GMT
I highly doubt dadryder received the all green from the Council to create a potential mind altering AI from scraps… The Turian Councillor would have popped a vessel at the sole idea, just to begin with. The Salarian Councillor instead would have levelled the planet where the server stood. I disagree about the Salarian Councilor. As we learn in ME3, Salarians love the concept of transhumanism so of the 3 later 4 Councilors they would probably be the most open to it. |
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 27, 2017 22:11:15 GMT
I highly doubt dadryder received the all green from the Council to create a potential mind altering AI from scraps… The Turian Councillor would have popped a vessel at the sole idea, just to begin with. The Salarian Councillor instead would have levelled the planet where the server stood. I disagree about the Salarian Councilor. As we learn in ME3, Salarians love the concept of transhumanism so of the 3 later 4 Councilors they would probably be the most open to it. Only when they can control it... It doesn't seem the case here. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 22:14:07 GMT
I disagree about the Salarian Councilor. As we learn in ME3, Salarians love the concept of transhumanism so of the 3 later 4 Councilors they would probably be the most open to it. Only when they can control it... It doesn't seem the case here. I can see it now. The Salarian Councilor is chastising the Ryders during the Council session, and after being dismissed meets them in private going "I want in. Can the Salarian Pathfinder get one as well?".  |
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Post by spacebeetle on Jan 27, 2017 22:21:43 GMT
Only when they can control it... It doesn't seem the case here. I can see it now. The Salarian Councilor is chastising the Ryders during the Council session, and after being dismissed meets them in private going "I want in. Can the Salarian Pathfinder get one as well?". I meant it more in the sense that to be satisfied they would have to plug to us… now, that’s another terrible idea. The Salarian Councillor in the back seat of my brain, whispering us to kill Drack. |
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Post by Phantom on Jan 28, 2017 0:24:34 GMT
lets blame Cerberus. When in Doubt blame Cerberus for anything and doubly so if it is bad.
*hides his Cerberus Phantom Armor and gear*
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 2:22:13 GMT
How is it that SAM an AI is allowed on Hyperion although AIs aren't allowed by Citadel? The Andromeda Initiative was started (if I assume correctly) by Citadel races so how is it that they were allowed to create an AI? Who says SAM is legal? Once in Andromeda, the AI can do whatever the hell they want. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 2:24:28 GMT
I highly doubt dadryder received the all green from the Council to create a potential mind altering AI from scraps… The Turian Councillor would have popped a vessel at the sole idea, just to begin with. The Salarian Councillor instead would have levelled the planet where the server stood. I disagree about the Salarian Councilor. As we learn in ME3, Salarians love the concept of transhumanism so of the 3 later 4 Councilors they would probably be the most open to it. What does AI have to do with transhumanism? Transhumanism is about altering ourselves not creating artificial intelligence. Salarians could easy be okay with altering themselves (and every species that can think of that will bite them in the ass later; see krogan, yagh) but not AI. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 28, 2017 2:32:47 GMT
I disagree about the Salarian Councilor. As we learn in ME3, Salarians love the concept of transhumanism so of the 3 later 4 Councilors they would probably be the most open to it. What does AI have to do with transhumanism? Transhumanism is about altering ourselves not creating artificial intelligence. Salarians could easy be okay with altering themselves (and every species that can think of that will bite them in the ass later; see krogan, yagh) but not AI. S.A.M helps with altering ourselves, thus is a transhumanist thing since it is surpassing limitations through the use of technology. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Jan 28, 2017 2:33:29 GMT
What does AI have to do with transhumanism? Transhumanism is about altering ourselves not creating artificial intelligence. Salarians could easy be okay with altering themselves (and every species that can think of that will bite them in the ass later; see krogan, yagh) but not AI. S.A.M helps with altering ourselves, thus is a transhumanist thing since it is surpassing limitations through the use of technology. Right, forgot that part. |
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Post by CrutchCricket on Jan 28, 2017 2:52:40 GMT
Yo dawg I heard you like AI so I put some AI in your AI...  Nah, but really, screw the rules. We're going to Andromeda bitches!  Err.. whoops. You know what I mean. |
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Post by extremegamer on Jan 30, 2017 10:21:55 GMT
How is it that SAM an AI is allowed on Hyperion although AIs aren't allowed by Citadel? The Andromeda Initiative was started (if I assume correctly) by Citadel races so how is it that they were allowed to create an AI? damn the bull shit Citadel this is 600 years from the old crap fest . They made it very clear when this game takes place |
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