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Post by Catilina on Mar 20, 2017 17:43:57 GMT
So.. m/m players are the only demographic to not be able to get the achievement, with only 2 options. We're the only ones to get no squad option. Only ones to get just CC face NPCs. Wow. We are special!
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Post by amuhav on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:31 GMT
The game sophistry guy - what's his name on here? He said Jaal was bi, right? What evidence did he have? If someone knows his name on here, could they tag him so we can ask for clarification again in view of the Prima guide? He also said Vetra is straight. Which is just... weird. Wrong about both? After he's been churning out so much content? Mistaken or trolling? That's what I want to know. He said "oh hell yeah" with such conviction, how could he be so mistaken? So either liar, or what? I need to know.
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Post by pucchi on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:32 GMT
I've been lurking in this thread for a while and I didn't think the situation would devolve into such a circus. I was convinced this was just some "hype-ploy" to keep people talking and guessing only to reveal Jaal was in fact bi, but this is kind of more unconsciously mean than I expected, especially keeping in mind there was entire lines of code left, not just a few sound clips. Hope someone can get the devs to do some 'splaining, in a civil and decent manner of course.
Meanwhile I'll just have to ready myself to play as femRyder just like I had to play as femShep since Garrus was the only one I liked as a romance... what a shitfest.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:36 GMT
Yeah, I saw that. Though on the flip side at least it reads like Avela is without question one of the nonsexual romances since it states the culmination is a second kiss. Now I just have to hope Suvi is a nonsexual romance. Also, I guess that is the final word on Lexi. Yeah, I'm sorry I'd hoped for you she would at least be a romantic "fling" To be honest, if this was the end goal from the beginning, I totally understand the amount of people that left during development, wouldn't have want to be responsible for this shit either. Thanks. Though actually, I'm kind of glad Lexi isn't a fling. I prefer this compared to that. I wouldn't have enjoyed it and this hopefully means she doesn't get with Drack. Also, maybe like Garrus and Tali if she is popular enough and they do a sequel with Ryder they make her a nonsexual romance.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:44 GMT
There's no defending bioware for putting in an achievement that is actually impossible for gay men to get. They dont have an excuse. If the romances mostly end up in exclusivity could it be possible they are angling for encouraging repeated playthroughs? Repeated playthroughs where gay men have to romance a woman in order to feel catered to is not representation.
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Post by shahwyrd on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:49 GMT
Why are all the male aliens straight. Explain please.
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Post by DalyaTheTurtle on Mar 20, 2017 17:44:59 GMT
EA owns multiple successful franchises that include LGBT content and I think they're involved in pride marches, if they're trying to "appease anti-SJWs" they're not doing it right This isn't an EA issue if it was DAI wouldn't exist in it's current form. Nah this is all on the ME:A team. Thanks for saying this cause while I'm not the biggest EA fan we can't blame them for every problem. Bioware had five years to work on this game along with a shit ton of data and fan feedback. This is on them and them alone and that includes all the technical issues as well.(This is the most hail corporate thing I've ever wrote)
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Post by Plague Doctor on Mar 20, 2017 17:45:10 GMT
Sigh....Well, thats what i thought. Didnt one leak mention that it was mandated by EA to appease the Anti-SJWs though? Because if so Bioware may not be to blame. EA owns multiple successful franchises that include LGBT content and I think they're involved in pride marches, if they're trying to "appease anti-SJWs" they're not doing it right Oh, i agree with that. All im saying is that IF its true we shouldnt make Bioware responsible for the decisions of EA suits whose ties obviously cut off the oxygen supply to their brain. Lay the blame where it belongs and all that. With all the bi-Jaal code i really doubt Bioware were the ones who decided to make him straight. I could be wrong though, admittedly.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 20, 2017 17:45:44 GMT
Yeah watching Gil romance, compared to Cora's and PB's, I think we can throw the claim that crew member romance is equal to squad mate romance out of the window.
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Post by lukensen87 on Mar 20, 2017 17:45:44 GMT
Well, claiming about harassment is just going to make people assume you mean us. You brought it up. We are not doing that. it's not totally uncalled for to remind people to be civil given the high tensions in here, as well as some posters seeming to think that BioWare has personally betrayed them Any of that did not happen, so talking about that in moment like this is like giving someone a torch in front of gasoline.. Some straight players who don't understand how most of us gay gamers feel now let me told you this: I wish you that, in next BW game you will have 1 romance option within the crew and one with npc who will probably dump your pc, then maybe we can talk.
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Post by Ianamus on Mar 20, 2017 17:45:56 GMT
There's no defending bioware for putting in an achievement that is actually impossible for gay men to get. They dont have an excuse. I'm upset by the skewed options too, but that's rubbish. There is nothing stopping gay men from playing Sara and romancing Vetra or Suvi to fill the remaining requirement. You aren't physically prevented from playing other romances. Did you complain when Dragon Age Origins had achievements specifically for romancing Leliana and Morrigan? Or one for completing all of the romances, which required you to play both genders?
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Post by spaceywaceynerd on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:05 GMT
Its their character,and a nicely written character from what i read we have to respect this.
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Post by uberlurker on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:08 GMT
Yeah, this sucks but I had a feeling not to get too hopeful. Gaycaravaggio's leak was right about everything else, it would be weird to suddenly be wrong about Jaal.
Looks like Reyes is light on content too, meaning Gil is pretty much the only meaty romance. =/
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Mar 20, 2017 17:46:47 GMT
Crying in a corner, I'd imagine.
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Post by Tekehu's booty on Mar 20, 2017 17:47:10 GMT
Why are all the male aliens straight. Explain please. Because it makes sense ™™™™™™™™™™™
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:47:35 GMT
Cora: Scott only, exclusive romance Pee Bee: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Vetra: Scot and Sara, exclusive romance Liam: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Jaal: Sara only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Gil: Scott only, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Suvi: Sara only, exclusive romance Avela: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] Reyes: Scott and Sara, "culminates in a unique friendship after flirted with several times, opening unique content with an additional option for exclusivity" Keri: [nothing is listed for who she is available for or if it's exclusive or not, but she's listed as a romance] They fucking did it. I can't believe this. It is now official: I will hate Bioware for the rest of my life, and never give them a cent. Oh God let this be wrong, just like with Kaidan.
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Post by xilizhra on Mar 20, 2017 17:47:43 GMT
There's no defending bioware for putting in an achievement that is actually impossible for gay men to get. They dont have an excuse. I'm upset by the skewed options too, but that's rubbish. There is nothing stopping gay men from playing Sara and romancing Vetra or Suvi to fill the remaining requirement. You aren't physically prevented from playing those romances. Did you complain that Dragon Age Origins had achievements specifically for romancing Leliana and Morrigan? Or one for playing all of the romances, which required you to play both genders? Funnily enough, subsequent games didn't repeat that shit.
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Post by Steelcan on Mar 20, 2017 17:48:09 GMT
it's not totally uncalled for to remind people to be civil given the high tensions in here, as well as some posters seeming to think that BioWare has personally betrayed them Any of than did not happen, so talking about that in moment like this is like giving someone a torch in front of gasoline.. Some straight players who don't understand how most of us gay gamers feel now let me told you this: I wish you that, in next BW game you will have 1 romance option within the crew and one with npc who will probably dump your pc, then maybe we can talk. I said it was a reminder for people to stay civil, I wasn't calling out people in general, others have been doing the same.
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Post by eternalgoddess on Mar 20, 2017 17:48:20 GMT
I don't know what do you mean my nonsexual, but I'm pretty sure that gay romances ale only kisses (not fully visible lol) But if you don't want even some kisses etc. then I don't know.. By nonsexual I'm referring to the romances like Josephine and Solas in DAI, where the sexual aspect of the romance wasn't addressed or left ambiguous. Think Suvi might be your best option for that.
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Post by Dirk on Mar 20, 2017 17:48:37 GMT
There's no defending bioware for putting in an achievement that is actually impossible for gay men to get. They dont have an excuse. I'm upset by the skewed options too, but that's rubbish. There is nothing stopping gay men from playing Sara and romancing Vetra or Suvi to fill the remaining requirement. You aren't physically prevented from playing other romances. Did you complain when Dragon Age Origins had achievements specifically for romancing Leliana and Morrigan? Or one for completing all of the romances, which required you to play both genders? Yes, I did.
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Post by amoebae † on Mar 20, 2017 17:48:39 GMT
Yeah, this sucks but I had a feeling not to get too hopeful. Gaycaravaggio's leak was right about everything else, it would be weird to suddenly be wrong about Jaal. Looks like Reyes is light on content too, meaning Gil is pretty much the only meaty romance. =/ And it's really not that meaty when compared to what we've seen of Cora's for example.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 17:48:53 GMT
Even if they could patch in bi jaal the fact is we know now they will always have intended for the game to be released with only 2 m/m options and a 3 character romance achievement. I can't see any other reason why the guide would say that.
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Post by yusu on Mar 20, 2017 17:49:00 GMT
Yeah, not gonna attack the devs. (Of course!) I doubt we will even get any answers besides the usual "have to make sense" / "time constraint". Maybe I'm just bitterly cynical.
If the prima guide is true, MEA has just dropped from "wait for a discount" to "never buy" for me. I'll let my wallet speak.
But still, this whole thing hurts.
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Post by Lady Artifice on Mar 20, 2017 17:49:11 GMT
Crying in a corner, I'd imagine. She'll be along to offer words of comfort later. She always is.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Mar 20, 2017 17:49:13 GMT
Well, I am in the process of cancelling everything. The only thing I can't seem to find how to cancel is my Mass Effect Andromeda loot crate.
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