10% Stats Masterwork (Perfection, Ironbark, etc) - when is it worth using?

One of the things that seems to make the Hidden Blades one good is that it is increasing number of hits and so can help proc other on hit effects (even if not purely offensive).

Maybe I will recraft a copy of Axe of the Dragon Hunter with tier 3 mats, maxing crit chance and attack and compare it to the one I have with 4 hidden blades.  Base damage is buffed something like 45 dmg to 290-something.  Perhaps it would allow me to one-hit-kill some mobs, I don't know.  Although Charge-Pommel kills some of the stuff under my level with a crit anyway right now.

With respect to stage of the game, early on they add a bit of insult to injury with the "chance" that the masterwork will even do anything.  I suppose 10% is 10%, but if you are crafting tier 1 armor out of tier 1 mats, then 10% of a little is a small bonus.

Yeah I can't think of many ways it would work out, especially for offense. I mean Fade Touched Bloodstone is 7.5% dmg per enemy w/i 8m, so at 2 you should be ahead of the critical crafting.

Maybe replacing a defensive masterwork on armor makes some sense for better armor rating and more defense.

In any case, turning this to a meta thread...

Is there a post that elucidates the "Heal X% dmg taken over 10 seconds" mechanics somewhere, since this one seems to behave in an odd manner?

I found one youtube video showing someone test it, but it mostly was showing how odd it is, and against health they showed only 3% heal, and then 7 ish on barrier.

I slapped together an armor with the "heal 20% over 10 seconds" version and tried to do a little bit of testing on health, but I couldn't figure out much about what it is actually happening.  Well besides that it doesn't appear to heal any sort of self inflicted damage.

The first single hit on health was 71, but I was healed 55, which didn't make much sense as I had no heal bonus.  When getting hit several times by the 2H darkspawn near Griffon Wing the healing seemed to drop off to almost nothing.  Part of the problem may have been the disparity in level, my armor rating, and RNG.  I would get hit for one roll up to 70s, but some were as low as 12.

Right, it isn't clear and what you see in game seems pretty irregular, making it hard to try and figure out.

When it is working, the health restored is slowly ticked up. Didn't measure it, but it may very well be healing over 10 seconds.

I tried looking at it again, and it does look like the health restored is ticking over around 10s.

Now the hard part is figuring out the stacking.

I made some throwaway heavy armor with the Heal 20% damage over 10s again.

Defensive Stats - I don't think your damage resistances and defenses really matter outside the affect on damage taken, but listing them anyway

Mag 16
Melee 13
Ranged 24
Cold 10
Elec 10
Fire 10
Spirit 20

Armor 250

Health 825

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L19 Giant (Emerald Graves)

Jump Stomp - 761 dmg, then another as I ran away for 1dmg (BMTW passive)... escaped w/ Charging Bull

825 starting health, assuming 762 dmg applied, final health was 234 for 171 total healed (22.4% of 762dmg)

This wasn't a good test subject since rock throw did 830 dmg...

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L19 Red Templar in Emprise

1 Swing

22/432 starting (guard / health)

192dmg, final health 295 for 37 healed (19.3%)

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2 Swings

0/680

171 + 185 -> 383 health

Healed total of 59 (16.6% of total)

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3 swings

0/714 health

206 + 208 + 211 dmg -> 192 health

103 healed (16.5% of total)

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3 Swings with 10-20s delay via kiting

0/577 health

220 then 202 then 192 dmg -> 82 final health

119 healed (19.4% of total)

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Guard healing

114/82 guard/health

142 dmg -> 94 final health

Healed 40 (28%)

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In the forums a while back someone had said something about this masterwork healing getting overridden with each new hit, although I could not find the old thread. May have been in MP forum or even on reddit, I don't remember. But the odd thing is the damage from the Giant in that the large first hit was not getting overridden by the 1 dmg hit as I ran away. For the hits by the Templar, it did look like maybe the heal amount would get reset after each swing if it occurred during the heal over time. When I kited him without dropping out of combat so that each was separated by 10-20s, total healing was more or less the 20% expected.

For a better test I might need to break out something like CheatEngine and track the health address, but I am not sure I want to bother with that.

In any case this probably makes the most sense on somebody who can generate a lot of guard or maybe barrier on demand and then use that damage to refill health. I ran Blackwall with the Wedge of Destiny most of this last game and that seemed to keep his health topped off, even though he and Cass really weren't taking much health damage by the time I picked it up.

Yeah I think against things with relatively high attack speed, or too many enemies, it ends up being pretty bad. Think that was also why it seemed so strange testing against the 2H in Western Approach as the damage rolls were so irregular and his 2 hits were so close that a low roll on the second hit dropped the healing a whole lot.