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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 11, 2016 15:19:28 GMT
Since I think (I think) there's no "official" thread to discuss about the BioWare BSN YOLO-Nazi mods and their reasoning for banning and handing warning points. I figured I could create one for people to vent some steam in a somewhat respectfully (I hope) manner.
So I'll start:
Today I had my second suspension there. 48hs this time handed by Mod02 yet again (I know she has a thing for me, I may ask for a date). I quoted another user that was pissed as hell for getting his/her (I can't remember the user's name) last comment removed. I said sarcastically that the comment was discussing moderation logic, so It'll be deleted, then I pushed my luck saying that If only the mods cared about the BSN before its closure and enforced the rules back then. And there you go. I checked the forums today and I have the suspension.
Jokes and sarcasm aside, the word hypocrisy is simply not enough. They give you a generic PM (don't even bother writing it by hand) and they link you to the rules, and I'm like "Duh, I'm suspended I cannot check the rules or anything on the site for that matter". And they ask you to send a e-mail if you wish to report the ban handle. The forums are closing in less than a month, I doubt there's anyone who cares about users disliking moderators actions. And I doubt anyone ever cared for that matter anyways.
That's all I have to say for now.
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Post by LightningPoodle on Aug 11, 2016 16:05:16 GMT
Thing is, people seem to think that the moderation doesn't matter because the forum is closing soon. It still does. They still have to do their job, just like anyone else.
If you knew your place of work would be closing it's doors for good in a week, will you just say 'fuck it' and not do your job?
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Post by Kenny Bania on Aug 11, 2016 16:09:25 GMT
Oh! I thought it was about the mods here. Nevermind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 18:19:26 GMT
Thing is, people seem to think that the moderation doesn't matter because the forum is closing soon. It still does. They still have to do their job, just like anyone else. If you knew your place of work would be closing it's doors for good in a week, will you just say 'fuck it' and not do your job? Yes. I learned how to do a diablo thingy and we played mini bowling using plastic cups and a soft toy frog, in between surfing and going to the pub at lunch. Good times But I guess as external suppliers of modding 'services' they won't be losing their jobs. Just ending up fucking up another forum. I am toying with the idea of writing all my last posts a la Feersum Endjinn and talking absolute bollocks
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Post by CrutchCricket on Aug 11, 2016 18:34:37 GMT
Today I had my second suspension there. 48hs this time handed by Mod02 yet again (I know she has a thing for me, I may ask for a date). Oh please do. Post pics If you knew your place of work would be closing it's doors for good in a week, will you just say 'fuck it' and not do your job? Actually... yeah. Oh! I thought it was about the mods here. Nevermind.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 19:23:17 GMT
will you just say 'fuck it' Why yes. Yes. I will.
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Post by LightningPoodle on Aug 11, 2016 19:30:56 GMT
Okay. Yeah, I'd do the same.
Let me rephrase it.
Would you say 'fuck it', even though you knew that your job was safe - you'd just have to work in a different location?
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Post by Pearl on Aug 11, 2016 23:02:57 GMT
Thing is, people seem to think that the moderation doesn't matter because the forum is closing soon. It still does. They still have to do their job, just like anyone else. If you knew your place of work would be closing it's doors for good in a week, will you just say 'fuck it' and not do your job? That's not the chief complaint, though. People are complaining because they're being far stricter than they ever have been, even going so far as to ban people over posts made months or years ago.
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Aug 11, 2016 23:11:54 GMT
I've pretty much stopped going there entirely. Modbots are clearly indoctrinated and it looks like we finally lost the war against the reapers after four years. I might pop back over before the end to share some beautiful pictures though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 23:17:19 GMT
Eh, I get it, as I fricken got banned for 7 days for no reason... AT ALL...
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Post by Fozee on Aug 11, 2016 23:38:34 GMT
You know how often I had to clean up those unnamed mods' errors/stupidity? A couple of major things per week. Locking Drinkquisition, for example. You don't just lock a 4,000 page thread. You can clean it up, but unless it's a horrible mess you don't touch that. That's a major part of the community at that point and no moderator should touch it. Then the countless times I had to remove warning points and bans because their reasoning was just so petty.
I'm really kinda glad the forum is gone, because it turned into a moderation nightmare over the past few years and this community doesn't deserve that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 23:53:08 GMT
Lol my parting thread for the mods is going to be a link to the site rules with a "Did you even read them?" Parting msg.
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 12, 2016 0:18:07 GMT
Thing is, people seem to think that the moderation doesn't matter because the forum is closing soon. It still does. They still have to do their job, just like anyone else. If you knew your place of work would be closing it's doors for good in a week, will you just say 'fuck it' and not do your job? They are acting just plain douchebag. In the post I got deleted I basically said that they never really cared about moderating the place and now they are enforcing the "laws" ? And how the heck is that reason for a ban? I know I joke around saying that "discussing mod's logic is reason enough to get a warning point and later a ban (because it's true)", but that doesn't make it any less moronic. The lack of touch of the PMs they give you is irritating. They don't even talk to you, just copy-paste a pre made justification for the warning/ban: "if you dislike moderation send an e-mail" Yeah right. I'll sooner send an e-mail to the chupacabra to kill my neighbors or something and get an answer.
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Post by CHRrOME on Aug 12, 2016 0:21:24 GMT
Oh! I thought it was about the mods here. Nevermind. Yeah, now that you mention it haha, the title kinda looks that way. I'm not sure if I can change it (although is probably best to leve it as it is if anything for the clickbait potential lol) _______________________ Also, Cricket. How do you multi-quote? I'm not seeing any options for that (probably because I'm blind as a bat for that kind of stuff)...
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Post by ibnshisha on Aug 12, 2016 0:27:32 GMT
Yikes! Better change my avatar!
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 12, 2016 0:55:18 GMT
I respect that a mod's job isn't an easy one. I can also acknowledge that the internet is the Wild Wild West frontier of our minds. But not unlike judges in the real worlds, mods, need to act with...well, moderation. The shit that is going down on BSN prime is one part damage control, another part holy shit the building is falling apart may day may day, and another part a bunch of people cackling over their cauldron of ban hammer soup, and as far as going through ancient years old threads and banning people for stuff that was posted 2-4 yrs ago- that's just plain being a major dick x 1000. YES, we know, our beloved BSN Prime is going away, ok we get it. No need to be jerks on top! We shouldn't be jerks too, but, you know, I'm feeling so butthurt about all of this enough to boycott Bioware at this point, I'm restraining myself. Can the mods restrain themselves? Who mods the mods? Even myself, mostly a total pansy, have already gathered warning points for the first time since I joined in 2010. Now the mods just remind me of out of control sidewalk cross guards.
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Post by DragonRacer on Aug 12, 2016 2:35:11 GMT
So, my one and only encounter with the BioMods was recently and just off-the-wall ridiculous. Now, not to toot my own horn here, but I'm pretty sure most everyone here is, at the very minimum, aware of me. I was nearing 10,000 posts over six years there at the time, had spent a bit of time in SP and MP forums of both ME and DA. I got around. I was helpful. I posted the ME3MP and DAIMP Resource Libraries and BioWare peeps stickied them for their usefulness. I was never exactly a trouble-maker and, more than that, was actually a helpful, contributing community member. I had no warning points, even. Now that the picture is painted, we go to the day it was announced that the forum had a pending extinction date. Emotions were high. For everybody. You'd think that, along with my past history, would account for something. You know, that little thing called context? I made a bunch of calm, insightful, but unhappy posts that day. And then I made one angry, tongue-in-cheek joking post that a) avoided the profanity filter (I said f**k, with asterisks) and said we might as well operate under The Purge rules, burning couches and such. This was no different than what everyone else was saying, even in that very same thread itself. Guess what? First warning point ever AND 03 made it a permaban. For being "provocative". Even better was I was permabanned on post 9,999. So, no warning points or history of unruly behavior... on a day of tragic news where everyone was unhappy... I made one slightly out-of-line but not terrible post... permaban. Just like that. The only reason I'm even alive over there again is because I was so angry and confused and distraught that I contacted a BioWare person via other means to ask about it and, after reviewing it, they agreed that the punishment was *ahem* just a tiny bit out of line for the infraction. You know, like, not exactly a PERMABAN type of offense, given the infraction, the circumstances of when and why it happened, and past history. I mean, other people were racking up warning points like they were trying to catch Pokemon. I get one and done? Nah. I think that may have actually made me the first account that was permabanned and then brought back to life (without, you know, making an alt account and circumventing the ban). Also a bit epic, I suppose, that my return was post 10,000. You can't really make this stuff up. LMAO Yeah, the moderation over there is, uh, rather fascinating right now, to say the least. I am walking on eggshells for the sake of still being able to direct stragglers to here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 2:41:54 GMT
That was some fated classical stuff in the making there. It epitomized the essence of what was going on with the forum as a whole at that exact time, but almost to the hyperbolic.
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Post by DragonRacer on Aug 12, 2016 2:44:19 GMT
That was some fated classical stuff in the making there. It epitomized the essence of what was going on with the forum as a whole at that exact time, but almost to the hyperbolic. I do have to say it was incredibly heart-warming to see lots of people throughout the forum have a mini-meltdown over that "banned" under my name. It epitomized so much about everything happening on that day. LOL
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Post by Crim on Aug 12, 2016 2:47:49 GMT
You know how often I had to clean up those unnamed mods' errors/stupidity? A couple of major things per week. Locking Drinkquisition, for example. You don't just lock a 4,000 page thread. You can clean it up, but unless it's a horrible mess you don't touch that. That's a major part of the community at that point and no moderator should touch it. Then the countless times I had to remove warning points and bans because their reasoning was just so petty. I'm really kinda glad the forum is gone, because it turned into a moderation nightmare over the past few years and this community doesn't deserve that. Glad to have you aboard Fozee.
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Post by syllogi on Aug 12, 2016 2:54:40 GMT
The whole thing where the mods are rummaging through old posts in private groups to give warning points is really bizarre. Two people I know who have only posted on the Bioware forums in a private group for the last few years suddenly got warning points for profanity on posts that were weeks or months old...like, what is the point? Just to make people who are already unhappy about the forum closure mad?
Honestly, that sort of thing just makes me not want to ever engage with Bioware's social media presence after this, knowing that some of them may be the people who were treating loyal fans in such a way.
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Post by Pearl on Aug 12, 2016 3:20:38 GMT
I think that may have actually made me the first account that was permabanned and then brought back to life (without, you know, making an alt account and circumventing the ban). As far as I know, yeah. Our friend Orpheon never got unbanned despite having both Mod02 and Jessica Merizan agree that his perma was unwarranted and that they would look in to it. He had to evade the ban, and has been incognito there for three years. edit: Well, had been incognito until this whole mess about the forums shutting down happened. He then went off while masquerading as Stanry Roo and got his second perma.
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Post by Babar Guy on Aug 12, 2016 3:23:06 GMT
The current crop of faceless moderators there are without a doubt the most worthless sacks of shit I've ever had the displeasure to watch in action and be moderated by as a part of the community. The fact that they apparently get paid for it is a fucking farce.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Aug 12, 2016 3:56:02 GMT
Also, Cricket. How do you multi-quote? I'm not seeing any options for that (probably because I'm blind as a bat for that kind of stuff)... Gear button on target post-> Select Post. Then when you hit "Quote" on the last post you want to quote or "More Reply Options" to get the full reply window, the quotes will be there.
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