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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 11, 2017 0:14:07 GMT
I was thinking... What if they made a DA game from the past when Andraste was around? I would think it could be like the cherry on top to the series once it is done.
Thoughts?
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Post by Pokemario on Feb 11, 2017 0:15:52 GMT
The only problem I have with this is that our choices wouldn't really matter.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 11, 2017 0:19:35 GMT
The only problem I have with this is that our choices wouldn't really matter. Very true. But you never know, we could be someone the history doesn't really talk about much.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 11, 2017 3:30:04 GMT
Sign me up for the First Blight or the Fall of Arlathan.
Strategically, a prequel about the Fall, from the assassination of Mythal through the creation of the Veil, would be excellent foundational work for DA4. Then they wouldn't have to rely on flashbacks or whatever to establish the relationships (read, murderous hatred) between each of the Evanuris and Solas.
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 11, 2017 5:26:52 GMT
I'm not overly fond of prequels, Rogue One being an exception.
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Post by Lazarillo on Feb 11, 2017 6:28:07 GMT
I could see two ways to make a "prequel" sort of setting work. One is to do it more as a spinoff. Make it a sort of game that doesn't really necessitate lots of decision making. This could be good for a potential "Andraste" game (in which she is, of course, a supporting character, rather than the main character). Alternatively, while not a pure "prequel" game, it might be interesting if they did a sort of dual-protagonist game where one PC was in the present time, learning about events that took place in the other PC's historical era. Could be interesting to see how decisions interplayed between the two eras, in that case. Didn't The Last Flight even sorta do that? So there's already kinda precedent, but then again, that's kind of Assassin's Creed's schtick, though, so maybe not the best story choice at this point.
Either way, I don't know that, logistically, I'd want to see any prequels being planned for the time being. DA games are few and far between as it is, and I'm more interested in the "present" of Thedas anyway. I feel like they've already "wasted" enough time on the ancients, for what we're getting.
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Post by Zemgus on Feb 11, 2017 7:58:11 GMT
Yes. It would be refreshing to get away from the Dragon Age era for a bit.
Of course you couldn't make those kind of history changing choices, but they could use the opportunity to tell more personal stories. Some fans would certainly like that. Focus more on the characters and how they react to the events, that sort of stuff.
At some point I would like to see a time jump. Beyond Dragon Age. Clean slate. Kinda what they're doing with MEA right now.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Feb 11, 2017 9:39:02 GMT
Would like a prequel about a previous blight after reading the last flight.
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Post by cheeseandonion on Feb 11, 2017 9:40:24 GMT
The only problem I have with this is that our choices wouldn't really matter. Well that's already the case.
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Post by adrianbc on Feb 11, 2017 10:59:26 GMT
Hmmm... A prequel about Duncan between the Calling novel and DA:O could be interesting, since we know very little about his life and deeds during those years. Like how he became the GW leader in Ferelden, how he discovered about the 5`th Blight - something like Deep Road rumors, darkspawn activity near several Deep Road entrances, finding the entrance used by the horde, a possible encounter with Flemeth and learning about his fate, AND some of his "secret" plans to make possible the defeat of the 5`th Blight like the protection of Alistair and the new Warden. I like the idea that Duncan knew what would happen from Flemeth but she forbade him to tell anyone about, and in return she promised him that the Blight will be defeated. Just some idle thoughts ...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2017 17:49:08 GMT
It wouldn't be called Dragon Age that's for sure
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Post by thats1evildude on Feb 11, 2017 18:12:17 GMT
The only problem I have with this is that our choices wouldn't really matter. Well that's already the case. Tell that to Kieran.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 11, 2017 18:13:10 GMT
A prequel set in important time periods like Andraste's Exalted March, the First Blight, or the Fall of Arlathan would probably reveal too many details the writers want kept hidden. It would take away a lot of the mystery behind Thedas.
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Post by xerrai on Feb 11, 2017 18:24:05 GMT
It would certainly be interesting. Of course they may have to call it as something other than "Dragon Age" because, you know, its presumably in a different age. There are several interesting time periods they could place us in, like during Drakon's expansion period, or the First Blight, or even Andraste's Exalted Marches. The only time where I would be concerned was if these prequels were placed in a time before the creation of the veil.
The pure amount of change necessary to do that setting justice would require, basically, a whole new world with several new sets of laws and logic. We are talking about a time when magic infused just about everything on the surface, where spirits were teachers and guides and magic was used to create cities with floating rivers and sky palaces. Where dragons flew the skies and texts deal more with memory and sensation than simple calligraphy. It sounds exceptionally high fantasy in comparison to the dragon age we know thus far (of course, we now know this "high fantasy" of Arlathan had some serious dark undertones like slavery and wars between the evanuris). It sounds so.....beyond dragon age that I doubt EA would be able to do it justice unless they created the setting entirely from scratch.
So preferably they would not do anything prior to the development of the Tevinter Imperium.
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Post by gervaise21 on Feb 11, 2017 18:33:36 GMT
The way to make it more interesting would be to have an alternative universe, like they did with Darkspawn Chronicles, where you find out what the result might have been if a particular character hadn't existed. For example, if there had been no Solas, what would have occurred back in the time of the Evanuris, considering he stated that his action was necessary to stop them destroying the world. That way the actions of the PC would matter or at least may be you could find out if you would have chosen to do the same as Solas in the same situation, i.e. raising the Veil.
Or seeing as they have already introduced time travel, this time the PC going back in time and trying to prevent something happening. Once again, if successful it would result in an alternative world state, so wouldn't affect the mainstream plot going forward but would allow you to explore history as part of it.
The only other way it would work specifically for the Andraste scenario would be as a disciple character showing what they did after her death. This would actually be rather interesting because now we only have the Chantry's version of history, particularly with regard to her actual teachings and the state of the world in the immediate aftermath. Scholars are now suggesting that the true history of events differed greatly from the Chantry one, so seeing this through the eyes of one of her followers would be a good way of discovering what really happened. This could be narrated over several years, so they would witness the elves being given the Dales, Hessarian declaring his devotion and people turning against Maferath. Along the way they could assist the slaves on the Long Walk or even be instrumental in concealing the whereabouts of the true descendants of Andraste. That in turn could then reveal just who they might be in subsequent ages, unless of course that is something that cannot be revealed just yet because it is going to be important in future plotlines.
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 11, 2017 18:54:51 GMT
Sign me up for the First Blight or the Fall of Arlathan. Strategically, a prequel about the Fall, from the assassination of Mythal through the creation of the Veil, would be excellent foundational work for DA4. Then they wouldn't have to rely on flashbacks or whatever to establish the relationships (read, murderous hatred) between each of the Evanuris and Solas. Another idea, what if we played an Arlathan prequel for the first half, ending not long after the Veil comes down or maybe when Arlathan falls, and then we're put in Uthenera, Awakening in the Dragon Age? I would be down for being restricted to an elf if we could do that.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 11, 2017 21:43:00 GMT
It would certainly be interesting. Of course they may have to call it as something other than "Dragon Age" because, you know, its presumably in a different age. There are several interesting time periods they could place us in, like during Drakon's expansion period, or the First Blight, or even Andraste's Exalted Marches. The only time where I would be concerned was if these prequels were placed in a time before the creation of the veil. Well, as I think has been pointed out, Baldur's Gate 2 doesn't take place anywhere near Baldur's Gate...
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 12, 2017 3:40:31 GMT
Sign me up for the First Blight or the Fall of Arlathan. Strategically, a prequel about the Fall, from the assassination of Mythal through the creation of the Veil, would be excellent foundational work for DA4. Then they wouldn't have to rely on flashbacks or whatever to establish the relationships (read, murderous hatred) between each of the Evanuris and Solas. Another idea, what if we played an Arlathan prequel for the first half, ending not long after the Veil comes down or maybe when Arlathan falls, and then we're put in Uthenera, Awakening in the Dragon Age? I would be down for being restricted to an elf if we could do that. That would be the most radical risk-taking move of a AAA franchise ever. Sign me up!
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 12, 2017 3:46:01 GMT
A prequel set in important time periods like Andraste's Exalted March, the First Blight, or the Fall of Arlathan would probably reveal too many details the writers want kept hidden. It would take away a lot of the mystery behind Thedas. I think that horse is already out of the barn. The only big mysteries left completely untouched are Andraste's life and the truth about the Maker and the Golden City. The cat is out of the bag for everything else. It almost seems like they're running out of time (like, DA4 and DA5) before they have to wrap everything up before the end of the Dragon Age.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 12, 2017 5:03:42 GMT
A prequel set in important time periods like Andraste's Exalted March, the First Blight, or the Fall of Arlathan would probably reveal too many details the writers want kept hidden. It would take away a lot of the mystery behind Thedas. I think that horse is already out of the barn. The only big mysteries left completely untouched are Andraste's life and the truth about the Maker and the Golden City. The cat is out of the bag for everything else. It almost seems like they're running out of time (like, DA4 and DA5) before they have to wrap everything up before the end of the Dragon Age. Where do the Qunari come from? What is their connection to dragons? Where did the Blight originally come from? What are the Titans and what is their connection to the dwarves and the elves? Who killed Queen Madrigal of Antiva? Where are the remaining Evanuris? WTF is lyrium and how can it have both magic and anti-magic properties? Not to mention questions about the rest of the world, as we've only seen the continent of Thedas so far.
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Feb 12, 2017 18:17:12 GMT
Recall that I qualified with completely untouched and big mysteries. When I said "that horse is out of the barn," I meant that an important piece of information has been revealed, not that every question has been answered. Like the Titan reveal in Descent: we've been put on notice about a linkage between Titans, lyrium, dwarves and magic, but all that hasn't been fully explained yet. Nevertheless, the "cat is out of the bag" that there is a linkage and, like Chekov's Gun, we've been promised an explanation eventually. Compared to Andraste's life, about which we know nothing other than what the Chantry has been feeding us, and we know how credible a historical source they are. Categorically different states of reveal. Where do the Qunari come from? What is their connection to dragons? Where did the Blight originally come from? What are the Titans and what is their connection to the dwarves and the elves? Who killed Queen Madrigal of Antiva? Where are the remaining Evanuris? WTF is lyrium and how can it have both magic and anti-magic properties? Not to mention questions about the rest of the world, as we've only seen the continent of Thedas so far. Where do the Qunari come from? What is their connection to dragons?Okay, I'll give you that one. That's big and still 100% a mystery. Where did the Blight originally come from?To me, that's the same as the true nature of the Maker and the Golden City, so already declared as 100% mystery. What are the Titans and what is their connection to the dwarves and the elves?See above. No longer 100% mysterious. Who killed Queen Madrigal of Antiva?I have to admit, I had to look that up, never heard of it. And thus, not a big mystery, though I'll grant it's probably still 100% mysterious. Where are the remaining Evanuris?Seriously? That's not even close to being 100% mysterious. WTF is lyrium and how can it have both magic and anti-magic properties?I think Bioware would claim they answered that already. Maybe I'm extrapolating too far, but it helps to know that in biology, the system that helps to express traits in an organism is the same system that suppresses traits in an organism. Since a Titan can express magic in a dwarf (Valta), it stands to reason that a Titan can also suppress magic in dwarves, and since lyrium is Titan's blood, lyrium is the "system" for expressing/suppressing magic in dwarves. Then it's just one step more to expect lyrium to express/suppress magic in other ways.
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Post by Heimdall on Feb 13, 2017 12:35:24 GMT
Another idea, what if we played an Arlathan prequel for the first half, ending not long after the Veil comes down or maybe when Arlathan falls, and then we're put in Uthenera, Awakening in the Dragon Age? I would be down for being restricted to an elf if we could do that. That would be the most radical risk-taking move of a AAA franchise ever. Sign me up! Well, they would at least be able to justify calling it "Dragon Age" The idea of playing an elf awakening to a human dominated present is actually an idea I've wanted to see in a fantasy RPG in general.
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