1 Twin fangs ring wins over 2 superb critical damage bonus rings?

What is your critical damage bonus without any rings?

See here, especially the damage formula calculations: bsn.boards.net/thread/472/guide-documentation-combat-mechanics

The crit damage rings add 40 percentage points to critical damage, not 40%. So if your crit damage bonus is +100%, it will increase it to +140%, which means your crits will only have 20% higher damage (2.4x instead of 2.0x damage).

I believe it should be 1.81*1.3 = 2.35x regular damage with the Twin Fangs ring. It may not actually be quite that high depending on what kind of damage multiplier it is, but that's the idea. Meanwhile, yes, the crit damage rings should give 2.21x damage.

Guys, I think you might be confused. You are misreading the damage formula.

Here's the damage formula, linked above, for reference:


final_damage = (base_damage * rand(0.95 to 1.05) - armor * (1 - armor_penetration))
   * (ability_multiplier)
   * (1 + critical_damage_bonus + flanking_bonus)
   * (1 + attack_bonus + damage_multiplier + type_bonus)
   * (1 - magic_resistance)


critical_damage_bonus = (critical_chance * critical_damage). I think that's the detail you both missed. I know the term name is misleading, but that's what it means.

You can't just take your 81% critical damage and apply it, *unless* your critical chance is exactly 100%. You have to multiply it by your critical chance.

So with all rings removed but all other gear equipped, what is your critical chance% and critical damage%? And your attack% while we are at it, since that is important also.

The Enhanced Twin Fangs ring is a 30% bonus to the ability_multiplier of 200%. It's not clear whether the Enhanced Ring adds 30% or multiplies by 130%. We'll assume it just adds, but you can try it both ways to see what matches actual numbers better.

Let's run an example. We'll ignore the effects of armor and randomization and the flanking damage bonus, since that should be the same either way. Note that each calculation is only for one hit. Twin Fangs does two hits, so you would multiply the final totals by 2 to get the total damage for the ability. Ignoring the flanking damage bonus.

base_damage = 100, attack_bonus = 10%, critical_chance=20%, critical_damage=81%, ability_multiplier=200% without the ring and 230% with.

Using two Superb Critical Damage Rings adds 40% to critical_damage, do you agree? So the modified value of critical_damage would be 121%.

So with two Superb rings we get:

(100) * (2.00) * (1 + (0.20 * 1.21)) * (1 + 0.10) = 100 * 2.00 * 1.242 * 1.10 = 273.24

Now compare to the Enhanced Ring:

(100) * (2.30) * (1 + (0.20 * 0.81)) * (1 + 0.10) = 100 * 2.30 * 1.162 * 1.10 = 293.986

The thing to observe is that the higher your critical_chance, the more valuable the two Superb Rings are going to be. Let's say your critical_chance is 50% instead of just 20%:

(100) * (2.00) * (1 + (0.50 * 1.21)) * (1 + 0.10) = 100 * 2.00 * 1.605 * 1.10 = 353.1

I did not know that, cheers!

Okay, that makes sense, though I don't think OP was making the same assumption about 100% crit.