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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 6:19:38 GMT
This is starting to get really annoying. The game isn't even out yet and the so far the biggest complaints from hands on have been janky animations (nothing new) and bugs (nothing new and will be patched). Cool your fucking beans. Get those babies in the fridge, asap. This is starting to get really annoying. The game isn't even out yet and the so far the biggest complaints from hands on while totally valid are constantly being dismissed by biodrones as minor issues that will be fixed at a later date. BioWare has a shitty track record for fixing bugs, but these biodrones keep defending them to no end.
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 3, 2017 6:25:18 GMT
This is starting to get really annoying. The game isn't even out yet and the so far the biggest complaints from hands on have been janky animations (nothing new) and bugs (nothing new and will be patched). Cool your fucking beans. Get those babies in the fridge, asap. This is starting to get really annoying. The game isn't even out yet and the so far the biggest complaints from hands on while totally valid are constantly being dismissed by biodrones as minor issues that will be fixed at a later date. BioWare has a shitty track record for fixing bugs, but these biodrones keep defending them to no end. I'm not a 'biodrone' and have had plenty of complaints about elements of Bioware games in the past. I just have the sensibilities to realise that, on the whole, I've enjoyed every Bioware title to some extent and will probably like this one. Not everyone who isn't in fucking hysterics over a game they've yet to play is some kind of blind heretic. Try harder. You keep on being wavebend, though.
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Post by ProbeAway on Mar 3, 2017 6:25:18 GMT
You could be right, but let's wait til launch and THEN call it how it ACTUALLY is.
No offence, but this forum has too many of these kinds of threads already. There is almost nothing that can be added on this topic that hasn't already been done to death elsewhere.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Mar 3, 2017 6:25:50 GMT
The MP beta was going to be one of the best chances for QA and stress testing their online, elect alone just how the game actually plays. Not having this is strange, and worrisome. The big thing I can't get over is how they have no finished and polished footage to show besides a heavily edited 3 minute video. Everything longer comes with a BS tag of "old build, ignore everything concerning. We promise we have that fixed." 1) why is the build that is publicly visible and going to effect a large portion of people's opinion on essentially tagged as worthless? 2) why not show this polished build? Probably because they don't have one. This close to the game and you can't show an extended look indicative of the final experience is a bad sign. Mix in all of DAI's issues at launch and you would be naive to not have doubts. Stress testing online is somewhat superfluous when it's a peer 2 peer environment... People also need to remember that the so called 'extended look' would have been filmed weeks ago when the press first got a hands on look. It is not remotely unreasonable for there still to be issues at that point.
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Post by Dragon king on Mar 3, 2017 6:26:16 GMT
The game going to be fine it doesn't need a delay
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Post by thesnarkyshaman on Mar 3, 2017 7:14:30 GMT
You could be right, but let's wait til launch and THEN call it how it ACTUALLY is. No offence, but this forum has too many of these kinds of threads already. There is almost nothing that can be added on this topic that hasn't already been done to death elsewhere. This. If you play the game and have criticisms, by all means, discuss them. Preferably in a balanced and constructive manner. As of now, however, we're in the period where the game has gone gold but has yet to be released. Constantly bitching about it isn't going to get anything changed. All you're doing is being doggedly negative on something that you can't possibly have a fully informed opinion on. And god help any devs who poured five years of passion and hard work into this game and who, believe it or not, likely don't have some nefarious plot to destroy your favourite franchise and would probably appreciate people trying out the game before condemning it as the worst thing ever.
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Mar 3, 2017 7:47:15 GMT
Its just like with Mass Effect 3 where that game couldve done with another year in the oven, but EA rushed it out in time for their end of the financial year quartly report. Priorities and all that. Its probably the same case with Andromeda. You really think BW needs 6 years to make a single game? Sorry, but LOL. No, I never said that. Nor do i think that. I dont think ME:A should be in development for six years. Im talking relative to how broken or not the game is.. In that im just saying going by how very buggy and janky the game still looks at this late stage, its clear its not quite ready and that they need more time to really iron things out prpoerly. Im tired of games nowadays constantly being released in a unfinished state, always "we'll patch it later". Consumers being the beta testers despite paying full price for a game etc. That should not be acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 7:58:57 GMT
Im tired of games nowadays constantly being released in a unfinished state, always "we'll patch it later". Consumers being the beta testers despite paying full price for a game etc. That should not be acceptable. This. Don't expect me to pay $80 for a broken product. This trend is really grinding my gears.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 3, 2017 8:04:22 GMT
I don't see what choice gamers or game development companies have given the complexity of modern day gaming. I was talking to a developer on the old BSN of BioWare and he said that bugs are a tricky thing. Since bugs can happen based on a single line of code or be based on the specifics of an individual piece of hardware. Which I have apparently run into bugs where I was the only one to have experienced this particular bug. So, a game cannot be finished in the lab as it were but it has to be released out there and get on people's machines and then if there were a common bug that is fixible, BioWare can fix it.
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Post by admiralbonetopickmk2 on Mar 3, 2017 8:07:01 GMT
Its just like with Mass Effect 3 where that game couldve done with another year in the oven, but EA rushed it out in time for their end of the financial year quartly report. Priorities and all that. Its probably the same case with Andromeda. I highly doubt that. You must not be familiar with EA's modus operandi then. They have a long track record of this in recent times. But go ahead you can doubt all you want, but its true. Look it up. That is what happened. Plus you only have to play the game to quickly notice how rushed and cut-cornery the game was in many aspects. But originally EA wanted the game out for christmas 2011, but Casey and co managed to get a short delay, and even that wasnt enough. The fact of the matter is you simply cannot make a game of Mass Effect 3's size and scope, a game which was suppose to be the conclusion to an epic, huge, long running series, with all the bagage from the previous titles on top as well etc.. you cannot do all that in 2 or less years as they did and were forced to by EA's stupid manegment(think John Riccitiello, Peter Moore and the like). There's simply too much to do in such little time... and well history speaks for itself. We all know what happened. $$$$$ comes before everything else i guess. They should take heed of these words... "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad"-
Shigeru Miyamoto.
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Post by stysiaq on Mar 3, 2017 8:27:47 GMT
Technical issues are the least of my worries. Im confident that the game will be in passable state that wont affect the press scores that is happy to give a free pass to Bethesda games. In order to see technical issues to be reflected in reviews something really terrible would need to happen, like half of the textures not loading properly or constant crashes. MP is probably in bigger trouble but to the vast majority its a novelty and a non factor.
If the game will have problems theyll come out of artistic direction or gameplay design not really having any engrossing value.
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Post by guanxi on Mar 3, 2017 8:33:07 GMT
I think they cancelled the beta because it had gotten so late in the hour that they felt they didn't have enough turnaround time left before release to properly address feedback and it's usage as a marketing tool was also limited due to timescale so it would be a waste of everyone's time.
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Post by Psychevore on Mar 3, 2017 8:50:01 GMT
People, I have a radical thought:
How about you wait until the game is actually released before complaining about it?
You're getting all upset for something you have never even touched.
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Post by narcoticbiotic on Mar 3, 2017 9:11:08 GMT
I don't get the complaints about the videos. Producing a video like that can take a while and they probably planned ahead quite a bit, recording footage here and there over time. Add that to the fact that taking care of wonky animations and polishing is known to be one of the last things that happen during game development, this is not a Bioware specific thing, so of course the footage will show various states of the game throughout development.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 3, 2017 9:22:50 GMT
Game was in development for 4 years with 75 million dollars budget.
If game is a disaster on launch, then no amount of delays would have saved the game.
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Post by forthewynne on Mar 3, 2017 9:24:10 GMT
Agree with OP. A bit worried at this point. Truly hoping I'm very wrong.
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Post by Croatsky on Mar 3, 2017 9:25:37 GMT
Im tired of games nowadays constantly being released in a unfinished state, always "we'll patch it later". Consumers being the beta testers despite paying full price for a game etc. That should not be acceptable. This. Don't expect me to pay $80 for a broken product. This trend is really grinding my gears. This trend has been ongoing for 8 years. I'm pretty sure it's here to stay, considering it is a norm for nearly a decade.
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Post by PillarBiter on Mar 3, 2017 9:50:09 GMT
Im tired of games nowadays constantly being released in a unfinished state, always "we'll patch it later". Consumers being the beta testers despite paying full price for a game etc. That should not be acceptable. This. Don't expect me to pay $80 for a broken product. This trend is really grinding my gears. Have you tried knitting? I hear it's really soothing and cheap as heck. Plus! Scarf and sweater DLC's!
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Post by helios969 on Mar 3, 2017 9:54:53 GMT
Reading through the comments I think many people may have the SP and MP polish backwards. Isn't the team that created ME3MP the ones developing MEA? Nevermind that in MP you don't have to worry about triggering cutscenes, dialog, or various other gameplay mechanics present in the SP game. All you have to worry about are the combat and encounter mechanics. I don't know about the latter but the combat looks pretty sweet from what I've seen.
I think too many people are freaking out with little to go on...or worse, due to the internet mob mentality. Make an informed decision, not one based on I heard from a guy repeating a quote from a random internet person who may have anti-Bioware sentiments. Personally, I've seen enough good, outweighing the bad imo, that I've decided to play the game. I think the combat looks like uber-fun and I know the companions and crew will be interesting. My only reservations are with the dialogue options creating distinctive personalities and exploration/side content being cut/pasted from DAI. If those things have been improved, the game is going to be really good. I have no idea about the overall story...then again neither does anyone else at this point.
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Post by aard on Mar 3, 2017 9:55:19 GMT
I think the conclusion "They dont have Polished Gameplay to show" .. or "Because they didnt show a complete Side Quest with Cinematics and Dialoge means those Side quests maybe doesnt exist" almost borders on Paranoia.. sorry to say this..
I dont feel what we have seen so far has been THAT unpolished. The Facial Animations are propably simply what they are so we have to live with them.. And Stuff like the Flying Avenger Rifle is propably already been fixed.
Also i get the strong feeling that someone in the Marketing Departement is really stubborn about the whole "Dont even spoil a tiny bit of Story". I read somewhere that every Sidequest is linked to the Main Quest someway. Maybe they are so protective about spoilers that they Feel even a smaller uneditted Side Quest will Spoil too much..
While it would be a small risk they should just show 30 Minutes of a small uncut Sidequest. Yeah they will be some minor Spoilers but i am 100% Sure most peoples concerns would be at least made alot less.
The Witcher 3 had 37 Minutes of one of their best Side Quests out well before release. Yes it spoiled some minor stuff but it also gave a great representation of what exactly the Game will be like. They could easily do the same.. but somehow they are so overly protective even about small Spoilers...
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Post by Ocelot on Mar 3, 2017 11:03:24 GMT
People who think delays automatically will make the game better have forgotten previous games that got delayed.
Remember when ME3 got delayed? Remember when DAI got delayed?
Heck even Andromeda has already been delayed once.
Delaying a game over and over again doesn't automatically mean it will become much better.
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Post by disi on Mar 3, 2017 11:20:38 GMT
People who think delays automatically will make the game better have forgotten previous games that got delayed. Remember when ME3 got delayed? Remember when DAI got delayed? Heck even Andromeda has already been delayed once. Delaying a game over and over again doesn't automatically mean it will become much better. I agree to a point. It needs to be playable or people get angry! Then you let all the early adopters beta test, quickly patching anything that comes up. This is how most games are released nowadays and it is understandable because those programs got more complex over the years. You need this army of testers. The title will be inside Origin and can be patched easily, I expect even the offline cd will only be a gamekey. There is no need to release a perfect offline version of the game like it was 20 years ago.
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Post by SalMasRac on Mar 3, 2017 12:08:59 GMT
Because likes are everything in this dog eat dog world. As one of BSN's foremost authorities on Likes (see: bsn.boards.net/post/294448/thread ), and currently holding the lowest Post:Like Ratio on the entire forums (at the time of this posting, Post:Like Ratio of 0.1993243243243243:1, meaning that for every 0.1993243243243243 of a Post I make I get a Like), I can tell you that: 1 - Git moar Likes 2 - wavebend and Madflavor have valid concerns, as do many of us, and I Like their posts 3 - Their Post:Like Ratios are higher than the Ratios of unofficialgreycolor and General Aetius, so y'all got no room to talk about them "getting no Likes" 4 - It's not because we are "internet haters", it's because we want the game to be good but are afraid that it will have issues 5 - I have not preordered ME:A 6 - Preordering games encourages crappy game production, waiting until after release and making an informed decision does not make you any less of a fan 7 - Racism towards multiplayer fans is childish and absurd 8 - If you people hate social interaction so much, as evidenced by considering multiplayer modes retarded, then why are you on social forums? 9 - Not gonna name and shame but most of y'all's Post:Like Ratios are utterly horrendous. Maybe the problem lies within yourselves.
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