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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 6:46:59 GMT
Perhaps I'm just a musical snob, but one of the most important aspects for any source of entertainment (video games included) is the soundtrack. Whether it's Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, The Dark Knight Trilogy, or going closer to home with Mass Effect, The Legend of Zelda, The Witcher, or The Elder Scrolls, every great franchise has a soundtrack that is just as iconic and recognizable.
Mass Effect has jumped around with composers ranging from predominantly Jack Wall on Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 but also featuring Sam Hulick, David Kates, and Jimmy Hinson. We saw a departure from Jack Wall due to scheduling complications bringing in Clint Mansell, Christopher Lennertz, Cris Velasco, Sam Hulick, and Sascha Dikiciyan on Mass Effect 3. We also can't forget the possibility of Faunts returning for a song in the credits as they've done it twice already!
Now, the big elephant in the room is just how much should Andromeda, an entirely new galaxy with infinite possibilities, sound like the original Mass Effect trilogy? I love the soundtrack from all three games for different reasons. Seeing as we are going back to a focus on exploration similar to Mass Effect 1, perhaps it would make sense to have similarities to the first soundtrack, but also giving the Helius Cluster it's own unique sound.
Is there a particular composer you think BioWare should use, whether old or new?
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Post by Command0rk on Feb 20, 2017 6:59:48 GMT
Wish I knew. I've been a lot more interested in information and speculation about VAs, writers, and composers than that of romance or story. I'd like to see Sam and Jack Wall composing for ME:A, but I'll be just as content to see new names too. Perhaps a group as on ME3, a few of those who worked on the trilogy, and a few new composers; for a few sounds similar to the trilogy but a new feel overall.
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Post by ayenari on Feb 20, 2017 7:07:26 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Bioware hasn't officially confirmed it yet, but from what I can tell from google searches, it appears to be a man named John Paesasno.
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5mjl3p/mass_effect_andromedas_composer_might_be_john/
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 7:12:45 GMT
Wish I knew. I've been a lot more interested in information and speculation about VAs, writers, and composers than that of romance or story. I'd like to see Sam and Jack Wall composing for ME:A, but I'll be just as content to see new names too. Perhaps a group as on ME3, a few of those who worked on the trilogy, and a few new composers; for a few sounds similar to the trilogy but a new feel overall. To be honest, I'm surprised we are a little over a month from launch (less than that for Origin Access and EA Access members) and we don't know already. I'm fairly certain we already knew at this point with DAI that there was a new composer coming in that had a very different style from Inon Zur. BioWare did state that it was going to follow a similar approach to BGS with Fallout 4 where it wouldn't talk about the game until much closer to launch. I certainly think a reasonable and safe approach would be to bring back a few veteran composers while bringing on some new composers for a newer sound. I was happy with how the soundtrack was handled for the last three games, so I'm not too worried with whatever BioWare decides to do. I'm fairly optimistic the soundtrack is going to feel like Mass Effect, but definitely have a new twist for separation from the Shepard story. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 7:17:26 GMT
As far as I'm aware, Bioware hasn't officially confirmed it yet, but from what I can tell from google searches, it appears to be a man named John Paesasno. https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5mjl3p/mass_effect_andromedas_composer_might_be_john/ There hasn't been an official statement by BioWare on the matter at this point. I did a google search just now and you are right that this guy seems to be hinting at the idea that he's involved. If true, it's going to be interesting that BioWare is going with an entirely new direction and sound for Andromeda. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised as they did the same thing for Inquisition, and doing something different for Andromeda makes sense given the change in scenery. I can't say I'm familiar with his work, but obviously he has worked on some major projects in Hollywood. |
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Post by Command0rk on Feb 20, 2017 7:22:15 GMT
Wish I knew. I've been a lot more interested in information and speculation about VAs, writers, and composers than that of romance or story. I'd like to see Sam and Jack Wall composing for ME:A, but I'll be just as content to see new names too. Perhaps a group as on ME3, a few of those who worked on the trilogy, and a few new composers; for a few sounds similar to the trilogy but a new feel overall. To be honest, I'm surprised we are a little over a month from launch (less than that for Origin Access and EA Access members) and we don't know already. I'm fairly certain we already knew at this point with DAI that there was a new composer coming in that had a very different style from Inon Zur. BioWare did state that it was going to follow a similar approach to BGS with Fallout 4 where it wouldn't talk about the game until much closer to launch. I certainly think a reasonable and safe approach would be to bring back a few veteran composers while bringing on some new composers for a newer sound. I was happy with how the soundtrack was handled for the last three games, so I'm not too worried with whatever BioWare decides to do. I'm fairly optimistic the soundtrack is going to feel like Mass Effect, but definitely have a new twist for separation from the Shepard story. Agreed. I've been rapt with Bioware's soundtracks for both ME and DA, so regardless of what they do I'm sure it will be another great soundtrack. Though, would be nice to know. Guess we sit tight and hope they tell us before release. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 7:27:21 GMT
Agreed. I've been rapt with Bioware's soundtracks for both ME and DA, so regardless of what they do I'm sure it will be another great soundtrack. Though, would be nice to know. Guess we sit tight and hope they tell us before release. On the off chance that BioWare doesn't, although it may do it in this recent gameplay series it started doing, I'll just post who the composer is when I'm in early access on March 16. Being that it's the full game, I'm sure there will be a way to see the credits. Of course, I'm not sure I want to dedicate part of my 10 hours scrolling through 30 minutes of names, but we'll see! |
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Post by commandercryptarch on Feb 20, 2017 10:05:18 GMT
I am not really bothered about who it is, I just want the music to be memorable.The theme to make me feel like the Mass Effect Theme did and the Suicide Mission. Not some watered down generic epic-y song.
Also please please please ...The Galaxy theme is super important too. That is the one I am waiting to hear the most.
Damn ,I am so excited!
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 10:24:36 GMT
I am not really bothered about who it is, I just want the music to be memorable.The theme to make me feel like the Mass Effect Theme did and the Suicide Mission. Not some watered down generic epic-y song. Also please please please ...The Galaxy theme is super important too. That is the one I am waiting to hear the most. Damn ,I am so excited! I may be in the minority here, but I did not enjoy DAI's soundtrack. I found it to be largely forgettable with the only memorable song being the Inquisitor's theme. The rest of it just came across as generic Hollywood stock music. What's great about Mass Effect is that there are particular themes that really stand out, such as the Suicide Mission or Leaving Earth. Of course, the entire soundtrack is fantastic and I love every second of it. I may be wrong, but I believe Mac Walters talked about how the galaxy theme was removed. I'm not sure if it was replaced with anything, but the entire system for exploring the galaxy is a bit different in Andromeda. We probably won't know for sure what BioWare did until we play the game, but I'm fairly positive BioWare did remove the galaxy theme. |
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Post by Elessar on Feb 20, 2017 11:19:07 GMT
I am not really bothered about who it is, I just want the music to be memorable.The theme to make me feel like the Mass Effect Theme did and the Suicide Mission. Not some watered down generic epic-y song. Also please please please ...The Galaxy theme is super important too. That is the one I am waiting to hear the most. Damn ,I am so excited! I may be in the minority here, but I did not enjoy DAI's soundtrack. I found it to be largely forgettable with the only memorable song being the Inquisitor's theme. The rest of it just came across as generic Hollywood stock music. What's great about Mass Effect is that there are particular themes that really stand out, such as the Suicide Mission or Leaving Earth. Of course, the entire soundtrack is fantastic and I love every second of it. I may be wrong, but I believe Mac Walters talked about how the galaxy theme was removed. I'm not sure if it was replaced with anything, but the entire system for exploring the galaxy is a bit different in Andromeda. We probably won't know for sure what BioWare did until we play the game, but I'm fairly positive BioWare did remove the galaxy theme. On the whole, i enjoyed the soundtrack from DAI more than DAO or DA2, even though they also had some good moments, especially DAO. Personally, i won't miss the galaxy theme. To be honest, i'm fed up with it. That said, i love the ME soundtracks. Some pretty iconic stuff. Don't know what to think of MEA's music yet. There seem to be some hints of greatness maybe but nothing stand out so far. Also difficult to discern what's just trailer music and what not. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 11:29:25 GMT
On the whole, i enjoyed the soundtrack from DAI more than DAO or DA2, even though they also had some good moments, especially DAO. Personally, i won't miss the galaxy theme. To be honest, i'm fed up with it. That said, i love the ME soundtracks. Some pretty iconic stuff. Don't know what to think of MEA's music yet. There seem to be some hints of greatness maybe but nothing stand out so far. Also difficult to discern what's just trailer music and what not. Fair enough. I just preferred Inon Zur's direction as it really felt dark and unique to Dragon Age. I'm indifferent to the galaxy map theme. It's certainly not a deal breaker for me one way or the other. In general, I do love most of the soundtrack for all of the games. That's really the true question. How much of the actual soundtrack have we heard? Generally, the original soundtrack for these games actually comes really late in development in terms of completion. I'm not really sure if we've really heard anything that will actually make it into the final game. From what I have heard from the various trailers, none of the music comes across as being incredibly memorable at this point. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 13:36:20 GMT
That seems to be the general consensus at this point. Although, I'd like to see BioWare provide an official confirmation about the pick and why they went this direction. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 20, 2017 13:46:30 GMT
Someone who doesn't hold a candle to Jack Wall, that's all you need to know. I read the recent Jack Wall AMA on Reddit the other day. Lololol, he didn't like the Leaving Earth moment from a musical-POV either. Maybe it comes with being a musician or me and mr. Wall just think alike  |
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Post by Croatsky on Feb 20, 2017 13:51:30 GMT
If it's true, which seems very likely it is, I hope Paesano managed to make something great for once. His composing history is alright, but nothing special. Every ME game had a couple of truly memorable soundtracks backed by few more great ones. It would be hugely disappointing if soundtrack ain't memorable for MEA.
As well, every ME game had multiple composers. So hopefully Paesano's fitting, but unmemorable, music composing history is followed by some really great composer.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 20, 2017 14:23:09 GMT
I am not really bothered about who it is, I just want the music to be memorable.The theme to make me feel like the Mass Effect Theme did and the Suicide Mission. Not some watered down generic epic-y song. Also please please please ...The Galaxy theme is super important too. That is the one I am waiting to hear the most. Damn ,I am so excited! Both by Jack Wall. Nearly every song people mention as a favorite is the work of Jack Wall. Even some of the songs people oft mistakenly attribute solely to Sam Hulick are actually Jack Wall/Sam Hulick collaborations, based upon what I've read in the song credits. Jack Wall is king of the mountain. ME3 suffered greatly for his absence. I know the world is full of talented people, but I can't help but think MEA would be much better if Jack were on board. Since he's not, I'm not sure what to expect of the song track. Essentially, I just hope it's good? If Jack were heading it up, I'd know it were going to be epic. |
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Feb 20, 2017 14:26:50 GMT
I am not really bothered about who it is, I just want the music to be memorable.The theme to make me feel like the Mass Effect Theme did and the Suicide Mission. Not some watered down generic epic-y song. Also please please please ...The Galaxy theme is super important too. That is the one I am waiting to hear the most. Damn ,I am so excited! Digging your enthusiasm, good to see on the BSN!  Personally, I'm liking what we've been hearing so far from the trailers/samples that are about: seems more horns orientated than synth....not sure if that's good or bad, but I guess we'll find out. As long as it's suitably epic and blends nice with the emotive scenes, I'm in. Also if they could hire Two Steps from Hell to do some trailers, that would be fantastic  |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Feb 20, 2017 14:56:36 GMT
Leaving Earth is awesomespectacular. Clint did like - three scores for ME3 and they're were all orgasmic.
Get out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:15:22 GMT
People don't like the Leaving Earth track? That was the only good part of the intro of Mass Effect 3. The music in general is one of those things i can't bitch about when it comes to ME3. The fleets Arrive, I'm proud of you, Future for the Krogan, Rannoch, so much greatness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 15:18:40 GMT
As long as the music is as amazing as Suicide Mission and Leaving Earth, I will be very happy! Have both on my playlist. Never tire of hearing them!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 20, 2017 15:56:43 GMT
On the whole, i enjoyed the soundtrack from DAI more than DAO or DA2, even though they also had some good moments, especially DAO. Personally, i won't miss the galaxy theme. To be honest, i'm fed up with it. That said, i love the ME soundtracks. Some pretty iconic stuff. Don't know what to think of MEA's music yet. There seem to be some hints of greatness maybe but nothing stand out so far. Also difficult to discern what's just trailer music and what not. Fair enough. I just preferred Inon Zur's direction as it really felt dark and unique to Dragon Age. Replaying DA:O right now and I agree. DA:I was iconic and great but it didn't assist the setting or history of Dragon Age at all. It was all "epic, epic, epic". It was downright masturbatory at times (which is part the game director's fault). When it goes on a third encore musically when you become the Inquisitor and raise the sword it's just... too much. It's too epic and optimistic and Mary-Sue like to have all of the music be so epic and hype. |
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 20, 2017 19:14:27 GMT
Leaving Earth is awesomespectacular. Clint did like - three scores for ME3 and they're were all orgasmic. Get out. It was ok but I prefer the Alex H remix. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 20, 2017 20:09:10 GMT
Fair enough. I just preferred Inon Zur's direction as it really felt dark and unique to Dragon Age. Replaying DA:O right now and I agree. DA:I was iconic and great but it didn't assist the setting or history of Dragon Age at all. It was all "epic, epic, epic". It was downright masturbatory at times (which is part the game director's fault). When it goes on a third encore musically when you become the Inquisitor and raise the sword it's just... too much. It's too epic and optimistic and Mary-Sue like to have all of the music be so epic and hype. I absolutely agree with this point. DAI was trying way too hard to be too epic and too awesome all the time. I just got tired of hearing it after a while as the tracks began to blend together. DAO had epic moments, but it also had subtle moments and times of vulnerability. I suppose part of the difference is you were somewhat of an "Average Joe" who got thrust into the role of being a Grey Warden. It was more of a death sentence than anything else. Whereas in DAI you are the Inquisitor/Herald of Andraste and virtually everybody wants to worship you or kill you, depending on the time of day. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 20, 2017 20:15:54 GMT
I may be in the minority here, but I did not enjoy DAI's soundtrack. I found it to be largely forgettable with the only memorable song being the Inquisitor's theme. The rest of it just came across as generic Hollywood stock music. What's great about Mass Effect is that there are particular themes that really stand out, such as the Suicide Mission or Leaving Earth. Of course, the entire soundtrack is fantastic and I love every second of it. I may be wrong, but I believe Mac Walters talked about how the galaxy theme was removed. I'm not sure if it was replaced with anything, but the entire system for exploring the galaxy is a bit different in Andromeda. We probably won't know for sure what BioWare did until we play the game, but I'm fairly positive BioWare did remove the galaxy theme. On the whole, i enjoyed the soundtrack from DAI more than DAO or DA2, even though they also had some good moments, especially DAO. Personally, i won't miss the galaxy theme. To be honest, i'm fed up with it. That said, i love the ME soundtracks. Some pretty iconic stuff. Don't know what to think of MEA's music yet. There seem to be some hints of greatness maybe but nothing stand out so far. Also difficult to discern what's just trailer music and what not. DAO had some great highs, but most of the tracks, I felt, were less than humdrum, and DA2 didn't see any notable improvements. Zur's work on FO4 is actually decent, but like DAO, only in brief instances. Frankly, I'm glad he's gone from the franchise. As for MEA, I'm so looking forward to hearing the official score. I'm not particularly attached to any of the old talent. I just hope this delivers. |
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Post by traks on Feb 20, 2017 20:22:51 GMT
All I know is that the soundtrack of the trailers so far is amazing. If the in-game music ends up this good and fits the same style, there is nothing to worry about.
The next one is not official, but a really nice remix of the Initiative soundtrack:
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