Whiners like this make me rage!!!

That thread sums up that place nicely, there's probably a handful of people that even know what they're talking about over there...

I couldn't hear anything over the sound of reload canceling with the subtle sounds of melons exploding.

Predicted future threads:

Winners like this make me rage!!!

Wieners like this make me rage!!!

Wines like this make me drunk!!!

Quick, OP needs some medigel.

Content wise they were good and sparked some good discussions (like good weapons on certain kits) and I'd chime in here and there, but there were some things that made me just say "What?" Glorious Fat Turian Soldier as 5th best soldier and not number 1 comes to mind. It seems a lot of the newer subs I've seen are very concerned with having -200% cooldowns and you can't convince them that most of the time it's not really that important.

It seems we have a very similar ranking, although I'd put the Raider at 2 

What about the M98 Widow Beerfish?

 You assume he listed shotguns by OPness, probably not so. As allot of people consider the Reegar not the Claymoar as THE OP shotgun.
Exclusion of all factors? It weighs a metric ton!

Yes they do and they are wrong.  This is part of my issue.  The reegar is seen as an overpowering easy win gun and gets lambasted as such all the time.  the same people who blast the Reegar (which has very low ammo capacity and in which you have to be real close to hit the target) extol  the virtues of the claymore.

The weight part is exactly what i ma talking about actually, the weight should be a big enough draw pack to make people think about using it for some classes, but it isn't weight means zero because even the classes which by logic should depoend in quick recharge times use the claymore, it is that good of a gun.

So, in the case of the Mantis: I am not the numbers dude, I cannot supply DPS numbers and such, with sustained values etc. All I can give is experience.

The Mantis profits from RC as much as any weapon, and if you were to compare the numbers that I cannot provide, of DPS of Mantis with/without RC, the difference would be massive.

It is a mechanic, introduced in ME2 intentionally according to the coder herself, and it is not something that can be done without making an effort. Doing so repeatedly without messing up timing constantly, is a practiced skill.... Why does gun balance in this case disturb you so much? Are you sure you aren't just mad at yourself for not being able to do something that isn't that hard to do?

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Take the Kroguard and solo Glacier Platinum with the Claymore. I will be amazed, and possibly bear your children.
Take the Kroguard and solo Glacier Platinum with the Reegar. It had better be faster than 33 minutes with 10 waves survived, or you are a scrub.

That, my novice, is the difference.