Stargazer Scene At The End of Andromeda?

ONE DAY MY SWEET

Tell me another story about The Ryder

Ugh... that exaggerated hate is still here? Original ending may have been somewhat lacking, but extended one was pretty satisfying...

Oh but I forget... Everyone assumed that every minor thing such as helping some random guy retrieve his dead wife's body in ME1 would have MASSIVE ramifications on the war with reapers. Be realistic... it wouldn't. Everything that you did, did have consequences and have been mentioned throughout ME3 in one way or another, but everything can't possibly make a difference in the fight with reapers.

Even then the very availability of Control and Synthesis depended on your own actions throughout the trilogy, so major decisions did in fact make a difference on the outcome of the war.

We got multiple endings that get debated to this day about which one is the best morally and philosophically, yet some people wanted a boring "Congratulations, you've collected enough firepower and followers throughout the games to access the underwhelming space battle cut scene where you blast reapers to bits" ending. Who wants Star trek, when you can have Star Wars!?

John Glenn?

As pure chance would have it, I recently had an interesting conversation with my son (8yrs old) about ME3's ending,

As I was playing through Mission:Palaven about a week back, my son decided to take a break from watching youtubers play Minecraft & Five Nights at Freddies and watch his old man play video games for a while.  He gave me helpful advice like "Use fireball on those guys" (Husks)..."watch out for those devil guys with the blue bars"  (Marauder).   And "WHOA! That guy with the yellow bar must be a MINIBOSS!  Watch out!"(Falling off the wall and fighting the Brute)  Eventually I got to Mars, where I was informed "Shoot those guys with the shields through that little slot."

Eventually Son states, very seriously, "I bet I know how _this_ game ends.  Commander Shepard destroys the Reapers."

Dad: "Not exactly, Cmdr. Shepard sort of gets to choose what happens."

Son: "Well.  What choices does he get?"

Dad: "Well...if he takes to long to decide the Reapers win."

Son: "That's stupid.  Cmdr. Shepard would not do that."

Dad:  "Yeah.  I think you're right."

Son:  "What else?"

Dad:  "Cmdr. Shepard can upload his mind to the Reapers, take them over, and sorta become emperor of the Galaxy"

Son: "OOO!  OOO!  Thats a trick!"

Dad:  "What do you mean?"

Son:  "The Reapers know he'll become corrupt!  Too much power corrupts people!  The REapers probably know that!"

Dad: "Where the fu..uhhh...uuuuunky-monkey did you hear THAT?"

Son: "On my videos.  Lots of people say that all the time: 'too much power corrupts humans.'"

Dad:  "Well, you're not the first person to think that choice might be trick.  I think a lot of people think that."

Son gets quiet.  Play a while.

Son: "What else?"

Dad: "Huh?"

Son: "What else can you pick?"

Dad:  "Well, Cmdr. Shepard can choose to merge Reapers and Humans together.  And other smart machines and aliens, and have them all live happily ever after."

Son:  "That sounds good.  Its always good when people who don't get along learn how?  That's what were supposed to do, right?"

Dad:  "I guess so."

Time passes.  While Dad is beating up Vega, Son suddenly interrupts:

Son:  "Wait.  It MAY be a trick!"

Dad:  "Huh?  I think Vega really did that stuff he was talking about..."

Son: "No.  No.  The Reapers are doing a trick!"

Dad: "..uhhh..."

Son: "Isn't that who you've been fighting?"

Dad:  "Uhhh....what?"

Son:  "Reapers!  The monsters are half-people, half-machine, right?  The Reapers just want you to decide they can go on being Reapers!"

Dad:  "Uhh....maybe.  I have to tell you, you're not the first person to think that.  But I'm guessing most of them were a little older."

Son:  "Is one of the choices destroy the Reapers?"

Dad:  "Yes.  Thats what I usually pick."

Son:  " WEll.  You should keep picking that.  Its probably the only one that's not actually a trick."

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Son, I am so NOT disappoint.

Seriously, what opinion am I supposed to have of the ending choices when MY EIGHT YEAR OLD SON can point out the narrative problems?

I admit that the alternate version of the stargazer scene is actually not bad, it's just too bad you have to Refuse to get it.

Unfortunately yes. I don't mind the ending either or the stargazer scene.

Ok, I want that conversation in the game! Make some npc that play a game and have this discussion, that would be a "nice nod" to the OT.
Do it Bioware.

Out of the mouths of babes eh?

Well, he's right.