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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 8:55:31 GMT
I was having a conversation with a forum member and this came up so thought i'd see what the rest of you would do.
If 0 was none existent 5 average and 10 perfect how would you rate MEA on Graphics, Audio, Gameplay, Setting/Story, Value for Money then adding up the 5 scores and dividing it by 5 to create the overall game score.
Thought i'd further explain what these 5 topics are
Graphics - Everything visual, animations, textures, scenery etc For example if the textures where bad this may get a low score but you could then praise it in settings if even though they aren't great they are good at setting a scene in this world, an example of this would be DAO they set the scene well but were not that great graphically.
Audio - Anything that makes a noise an example could be the music is really good so say a score of 7 but then in the settings section you may mark it down because while the music is good is does not fit the tone of the game.
Gameplay - Everything you control, from combat to exploration, how are the actual controls etc,
Setting/Story - Does the game set the scene, is it immersive, audio and visually, is the story any good, are characters well written, is there a lot of content?
Value for Money - Do you get your moneys worth, how much does it cost vs how much content, replayability etc
So for me
Graphics 7 The actuall fidelty is incredible and would probably be an 8 maybe 9 but the below average facial appeal and CC average implementation knocks it down to a 7 imo.
Audio 8 The sound is immersive and generally very well done, just missing those truly memorable songs to grab that 9
Gameplay 7 The new cover system is fluid, the jet pack has changed the game for the better imo for travelling around and in combat. Lots of skills/playstyles to choose from, nomad handles itself well especially when upgraded. Enough activity spaced nicely around the planets. Solid as a whole but not state of the art. There is also a lot to craft. This would probably be and 8 but i knock it down a peg for lack of customisation to companions or at least a 2nd armour aesthetic.
Setting 8 The lore and visuals do set a lovely scene especially space and the planets surfaces. Each world feels like it's own and different from the last. The story is good but not great (though i haven't finished the game yet) The companions are a major step up from previous games in terms of content. They talk to each other alot on your ship, they hang out on the nexus/Angar resistance HQ planet (can't remember its name) They also talk to each other and you or make comments alot in the nomad/walking around planets. They make a comment about each planet on the tempest and have something to say after each main mission.
Value for Money 10 its a 100+ hour game with choices meaning at least 2 playthroughs could be done. Then there is multiplayer which like ME3 will get free dlc to expand it overtime. No brainer.
Overall 8/10
Averages of everyones reviews so far
Total No Of Reviews 4 To 1.d.p Graphics 7.3 Audio 6.7 Gameplay 7.3 Setting 7.1 Value for Money 8.7 Overall 7.4
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 23, 2017 10:23:56 GMT
Yeah, with Official Reviews Thread fan reviews seemed missing. With 30+ hours on the game I guess I can judge enough of it.
Gameplay 7.5: Combat 9 - Fluid and fun enough for a game which isn't dedicated to it. New abilities are interesting and new cover system works well.
Non-combat gameplay 6 - The overall design isn't bad, but falls apart way too often. At times you simply get drown in meaningless time-sinks (which were promised not to be in the game BTW), amount of scanning is over the top. I'm not a fan of open-world, that's not a secret, but I can tolerate it if it's done well. Here I feel like I have to bear it to see something else. I completely realized that, when I got to the planet without Nomad and mineral scanning and it felt like a breath of fresh air to me. Also there is a pile of minor game design flaws - bland random spawns, critical missions without saves, nearly constant hand-holding, interrupted chatters and SAM's hazard warning spam in general, and so on, and so on.
Setting/Story 7: Story 5 - My biggest gripe with this game unfortunately. So much wasted potential it makes me sad. Interesting premise and story opportunities, presented by traveling into complete unknown, are destroyed by flat and "toothless" writing, which tries to hide behind "light and optimistic" tone. Several main themes are lazily slapped together and the more you think about this the more obvious it becomes. Too many questions are ignored or simply brushed off. New dialogue system goes here as well. More freedom of roleplay was promised, but instead of two options in original trilogy I got one. Same thing is just being said with different tones and most NPCs don't even react to it. Instead of old "Let's be friends"/"Where do you want this bullet?" I have "Let's be friends(because I like your style)"/"Let's be friends(this will be beneficial for us all)"/"Let's be friends(I don't feel like fighting anyway)"/"Let's be friends(since official protocol suggests that)".
Characters 9 - Practically entire cast is likeable. Even if they don't feel unique, they are believable and are interesting to talk with.
Graphics 7 - Beautiful landscapes and armor/vehicles/buildings compete with outright disturbing human/asari face design and various weird/buggy animations don't help here either.
Audio 7 - Nothing really memorable, but does well most of the time.
Value for money 8 - 100+ hours worth of gameplay, but a lot of it you wish wasn't there.
Overall 7.3/10, definitely worth to play, but you can't help but notice that it could be better.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 11:37:30 GMT
Ahriman The idea was to try stick to the old school 5 sections of analysing a game. I took the liberty of adding the 2 scores you had for setting and gameplay and averaging them an your current average is 7.1 when missing the last section so a score of 6.5 for value for money would be needed for the 7 overall.
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Post by Morrigan on Mar 23, 2017 11:40:03 GMT
None of the games I play can be judged in an objective manner, because they all have major flaws. Some people cannot see the forest for the trees. Their loss I guess.
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Post by bizantura on Mar 23, 2017 11:50:49 GMT
For the 40 hours I have been playing, I in total give it an 8,5. But I agree with Morrigan, in the end my opinion is very subjective. The complaints seem more hyperbole than anything else. But judging without experiencing is today's modern times I guess. It is all about belonging with the crowd because that is cool. Groupthink above all else.....
If I lack anything in this game, it is the music. It is lacking during exploring.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 11:52:06 GMT
For the 40 hours I have been playing, I in total give it an 8,5. But I agree with Morrigan, in the end my opinion is very subjective. The complaints seem more hyperbole than anything else. But judging without experiencing is today's modern times I guess. It is all about belonging with the crowd because that is cool. Groupthink above all else..... If I lack anything in this game, it is the music. It is lacking during exploring. Can you break it down into the five sections pretty please
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Post by bizantura on Mar 23, 2017 11:57:56 GMT
Graphics 8 Audio 5 Gameplay 7.50 Setting 8 Value for Money 9.75 Overall 8.50
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 12:04:54 GMT
Graphics 8 Audio 5 Gameplay 7.50 Setting 8 Value for Money 9.75 Overall 8.50 ty updated overall on first post also your overall is 7.65 In old school reviews one section couldn't outweigh the others so an overall score was just that an overall score
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Post by Pearl on Mar 23, 2017 12:05:46 GMT
Visuals = 7. Graphical fidelity isn't bad, but I've seen better and the comparatively cartoonish looks of some of the characters knock it down a peg for me. Going to beat the dead horse here and comment about the animations just like everyone else; half the characters I've interacted with look like they're made of wood or plastic, and the other half appear to have Parkinson's. Plus whoever was responsible for the lighting engine appears to have been huffing copious amounts of jenkem, so that doesn't really help.
Audio = 7. Guns and explosions sound meaty, but everything else sounds weak and/or hollow. Voice acting is very hit-or-miss as well. When it's good it's good, when it's not it completely takes you out of the scene. Music is... there? It's not unpleasant but it doesn't strike me as particularly memorable yet.
Gameplay = 7. I love the new combat and cover systems. They work way better than I thought they would. The Nomad is a neutral point for me, it's not outstanding, but it's also not as painful as the Mako was. I don't understand the need to switch it between 4- and 6-wheel drive, it's a completely pointless """mechanic""" that adds nothing except annoyance when you realize you're in the wrong mode for climbing that hill in front of you. Navigating the galaxy map is cool for the first two or three times but becomes completely asinine after about ten minutes. Mining is somehow even more mind-numbing than it was in ME2. I generally dislike crafting in games, so I'm not going to hold that against Andromeda.
Setting = 6. Somehow uninspired. Species that call the Milky Way home, like the Elcor or Hanar, feel far more "alien" than the Angara or Kett. None of the worlds feel like they're part of a different galaxy, in fact they feel like they'd be more on the boring side of Milky Way planets. The main villain is about as generic and boilerplate as they come, even TIM in ME3 was more interesting than him. It really feels like they designed the game with the Milky Way setting in mind, but then decided to switch over to Andromeda at the last second to avoid having to actually deal with the outcomes of ME3.
Story = 5. Honestly my complaints here are almost exactly what Ahriman said a little earlier up the page. While I like having more control over how Ryder says things, I have no control over what Ryder means. Instead I just have four different ways to convey the same statement. It's okay though, it's not like I wanted to role-play in an RPG or anything. Also, the characters seem pretty bland and two-dimensional. I wasn't expecting anyone to be the new Garrus or anything like that, but goddamn, I was expecting to feel some kind of connection to someone.
Value for money = 7. The multiplayer is just as fun as it was in ME3. The rest leaves quite a bit to be desired, in my opinion. I would be pissed if I were someone who exclusively played the singleplayer.
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Post by goishen on Mar 23, 2017 12:08:46 GMT
Your gameplay estimations are a joke. It's either that or you haven't done Eos site 2 where you first encounter a fiend yet. Yah, hi guys, we look forward to how you play using jump jets! Vertically adds another dimension to the gameplay! As I'm hiding in the corner of a building of site 2, after getting killed about 10 times, just so I can pick them off one by one. The same goes for the rest of Eos, too. "Hi, we're gonna put the kett out there in the middle of nothing, and then we're gonna expect for you to get out and handle them." I shot off a singularity, they were all like, "Cool, she's blown her load, let's rush!" BioWare can fuck right off.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 12:11:55 GMT
Visuals = 7. Graphical fidelity isn't bad, but I've seen better and the comparatively cartoonish looks of some of the characters knock it down a peg for me. Going to beat the dead horse here and comment about the animations just like everyone else; half the characters I've interacted with look like they're made of wood or plastic, and the other half appear to have Parkinson's. Plus whoever was responsible for the lighting engine appears to have been huffing copious amounts of jenkem, so that doesn't really help. Audio = 7. Guns and explosions sound meaty, but everything else sounds weak and/or hollow. Voice acting is very hit-or-miss as well. When it's good it's good, when it's not it completely takes you out of the scene. Music is... there? It's not unpleasant but it doesn't strike me as particularly memorable yet. Gameplay = 7. I love the new combat and cover systems. They work way better than I thought they would. The Nomad is a neutral point for me, it's not outstanding, but it's also not as painful as the Mako was. I don't understand the need to switch it between 4- and 6-wheel drive, it's a completely pointless """mechanic""" that adds nothing except annoyance when you realize you're in the wrong mode for climbing that hill in front of you. Navigating the galaxy map is cool for the first two or three times but becomes completely asinine after about ten minutes. Mining is somehow even more mind-numbing than it was in ME2. I generally dislike crafting in games, so I'm not going to hold that against Andromeda. Setting = 6. Somehow uninspired. Species that call the Milky Way home, like the Elcor or Hanar, feel far more "alien" than the Angara or Kett. None of the worlds feel like they're part of a different galaxy, in fact they feel like they'd be more on the boring side of Milky Way planets. The main villain is about as generic and boilerplate as they come, even TIM in ME3 was more interesting than him. It really feels like they designed the game with the Milky Way setting in mind, but then decided to switch over to Andromeda at the last second to avoid having to actually deal with the outcomes of ME3. Story = 5. Honestly my complaints here are almost exactly what Ahriman said a little earlier up the page. While I like having more control over how Ryder says things, I have no control over what Ryder means. Instead I just have four different ways to convey the same statement. It's okay though, it's not like I wanted to role-play in an RPG or anything. Also, the characters seem pretty bland and two-dimensional. I wasn't expecting anyone to be the new Garrus or anything like that, but goddamn, I was expecting to feel some kind of connection to someone. Value for money = 7. The multiplayer is just as fun as it was in ME3. The rest leaves quite a bit to be desired, in my opinion. I would be pissed if I were someone who exclusively played the singleplayer. Thank you i merged story and setting (one topic) to give 5.5 updated main post average
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Post by Ahriman on Mar 23, 2017 12:16:38 GMT
Ahriman The idea was to try stick to the old school 5 sections of analysing a game. I took the liberty of adding the 2 scores you had for setting and gameplay and averaging them an your current average is 7.1 when missing the last section so a score of 6.5 for value for money would be needed for the 7 overall. Ah, sorry, didn't realize these categories are strict. Reformatted and added one, overall score rose a little.
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Post by scouserant23 on Mar 23, 2017 12:22:48 GMT
Ahriman The idea was to try stick to the old school 5 sections of analysing a game. I took the liberty of adding the 2 scores you had for setting and gameplay and averaging them an your current average is 7.1 when missing the last section so a score of 6.5 for value for money would be needed for the 7 overall. Ah, sorry, didn't realize these categories are strict. Reformatted and added one, overall score rose a little. No problem will update main posts overall to match an thanks.
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