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Post by Sifr on Oct 29, 2017 0:16:12 GMT
Episode 2 thoughts; Alas Sienna Khan, we hardly knew ye.
For someone who started the militant White Fang faction, was surprising to learn was a "moderate" compared to someone like Adam and her goal was only to "push back" against humanity, not start a full-scale war between the two species.
Guess Ilia wasn't lying when she said that Blake's plan "wasn't going to work" and she should leave asap. With Adam now running the show, things are not going to be good for Blake's loved ones if they stay in Menagerie.
Surprised as well that Hazel seemed disgusted by Adam's coup and murder of Sienna.
Between this and the random act of kindness he showed Oscar last season, seems like he might have some layers to his character. He definitely seems the least (openly) evil member of team WTCH thus far, although I'm certain he'll do something to defensetrate that character assessment at some point down the line. Very curious about his past with Ozpin and what lead him to team up with Salem.
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Post by Bronztrooper on Oct 31, 2017 22:40:11 GMT
For non-First Members it comes out a week later, so not everyone will have seen Ep 2 yet. Actually that's a good reminder to everyone to put any discussion of the latest episode under spoiler tags, since not everyone will have seen it if they're not First Members or wait until it's released officially on Youtube. No, it comes out for non-First members the following Tuesday, then on YT the following Saturday. I know because I'm not a First member and I saw it the Tuesday following it's original upload to the Rooster Teeth site. As did all the other non-First members on the site.
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 31, 2017 23:00:22 GMT
Any one else feel like he plot is moving much faster than anticipated here? I thought Sienna would last until at least the mid-season.
It also looks like Ruby, Yang and Weiss will be reuniting much sooner than I expected.
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Post by Bronztrooper on Nov 1, 2017 16:48:10 GMT
Any one else feel like he plot is moving much faster than anticipated here? I thought Sienna would last until at least the mid-season.
It also looks like Ruby, Yang and Weiss will be reuniting much sooner than I expected. Yeah, but then it seems to be that the volumes alternate between focusing on character development and plot progression. Still, a lot can happen between now and the end of the volume. Yeah, would've been nice to learn more about her as a character, but Adam's edginess was too much for her (too soon?).
Well, we don't really know how far away Raven's camp is from Haven. And we don't know how far Yang is from it.
I want to talk about episode 3 (just watched in through the Rooster Teeth site), but idk if any of you guys have seen it yet.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 2, 2017 5:21:19 GMT
No, it comes out for non-First members the following Tuesday, then on YT the following Saturday. I know because I'm not a First member and I saw it the Tuesday following it's original upload to the Rooster Teeth site. As did all the other non-First members on the site. Ah, but you do have to sign up to be a member to see it? Maybe that's why I thought it was still only for First Members, I thought the sign-up referred to that, rather than general membership. My fault for not paying attention (and being too lazy to sign up)
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Post by Bronztrooper on Nov 2, 2017 17:22:51 GMT
No, it comes out for non-First members the following Tuesday, then on YT the following Saturday. I know because I'm not a First member and I saw it the Tuesday following it's original upload to the Rooster Teeth site. As did all the other non-First members on the site. Ah, but you do have to sign up to be a member to see it? Maybe that's why I thought it was still only for First Members, I thought the sign-up referred to that, rather than general membership. My fault for not paying attention (and being too lazy to sign up) Yeah, you do have to sign up for the site. There was a free trial for the First membership that lasted about a month, iirc, but idk if they still have that going on.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 5, 2017 4:02:14 GMT
Any one else feel like he plot is moving much faster than anticipated here? I thought Sienna would last until at least the mid-season.
It also looks like Ruby, Yang and Weiss will be reuniting much sooner than I expected. Yeah, but then it seems to be that the volumes alternate between focusing on character development and plot progression. Still, a lot can happen between now and the end of the volume. Yeah, Volume 4 was more dedicated to character development than actual progression of the main plot. Yang was dealing with PTSD from losing her arm, Blake was going back home, Weiss was trying to escape from home and team RNJR's misadventures as they trekked across Mistral. It was a necessary breather so Vol 5 could kick the main plot back into gear and/or take things up a notch. (Red vs Blue have done this a few times as well. After a huge storyline or plot arc is resolved, they'll usually dedicate a season to the characters goofing around to break the tension, deal with the aftermath of the last arc and set up the next arc. S9 and 11 were good examples of this) Yeah, would've been nice to learn more about her as a character, but Adam's edginess was too much for her (too soon?).
Well, we don't really know how far away Raven's camp is from Haven. And we don't know how far Yang is from it. I wish we'd gotten to know Sienna better as well.
Was a nice subversion of expectations to create a badass-looking White Fang leader inspired by Shere Khan, only to then have her taken out in a complete underwhelming fashion in her first appearance.
Although it's fun to now go back to Vol 4 and realise that they kinda foreshadowed Sienna getting taken out of the picture and Salem's preference of Adam as their ally/pawn in the White Fang;
"And Hazel, I'm sending you to the head of the White Fang. Adam Taurus has arranged the meeting. The boy continues to prove loyal... ensure that Sienna Khan feels the same" Related and with some mild spoilers for Ep 3; Was intrigued by Ghira's statement that he respected Sienna for what she stood for, even if he disagreed with her methods. Would like to know more about their history and past relationship together, where they friends (or more) at some point before disagreeing in what direction the White Fang should take? Or were they rivals and hated each other?
We can't discount that Ghira may have been bending the truth and sang her praises to appeal to Faunus who's ideology leans more in her direction than his. I doubt he'd have risen to become Chieftain of Menagerie and the former High Leader of the White Fang if he wasn't a little politically savvy. I want to talk about episode 3 (just watched in through the Rooster Teeth site), but idk if any of you guys have seen it yet. No worries if you want to talk about it, just remember put it under tags so people who haven't seen it (or watch it later) don't get spoiled. Speaking of which, my thoughts on episode 3; Glad that Ozpin decided not o inform Leo of his presence in Haven, due to his suspicions about his recent behaviour. Most characters in fiction tend to ignore these obvious warning signs and it's always extremely frustrating to watch.
Having Oz immediately suss something was up and take a prudent course of action to counter any possibility that Leo's gone rogue, nicely sells the notion he's been alive for thousands of years. Does Leo really think that he's the first person to have ever betrayed him? This is not his first rodeo! And because I unashamedly ship all the ships; So what does anyone think now Rose Garden finally have met (and done the meet cute) in canon? Nay or yay?
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Post by Bronztrooper on Nov 7, 2017 23:09:49 GMT
Yeah, but then it seems to be that the volumes alternate between focusing on character development and plot progression. Still, a lot can happen between now and the end of the volume. Yeah, Volume 4 was more dedicated to character development than actual progression of the main plot. Yang was dealing with PTSD from losing her arm, Blake was going back home, Weiss was trying to escape from home and team RNJR's misadventures as they trekked across Mistral. It was a necessary breather so Vol 5 could kick the main plot back into gear and/or take things up a notch. (Red vs Blue have done this a few times as well. After a huge storyline or plot arc is resolved, they'll usually dedicate a season to the characters goofing around to break the tension, deal with the aftermath of the last arc and set up the next arc. S9 and 11 were good examples of this) Yeah, would've been nice to learn more about her as a character, but Adam's edginess was too much for her (too soon?).
Well, we don't really know how far away Raven's camp is from Haven. And we don't know how far Yang is from it. I wish we'd gotten to know Sienna better as well.
Was a nice subversion of expectations to create a badass-looking White Fang leader inspired by Shere Khan, only to then have her taken out in a complete underwhelming fashion in her first appearance.
Although it's fun to now go back to Vol 4 and realise that they kinda foreshadowed Sienna getting taken out of the picture and Salem's preference of Adam as their ally/pawn in the White Fang;
"And Hazel, I'm sending you to the head of the White Fang. Adam Taurus has arranged the meeting. The boy continues to prove loyal... ensure that Sienna Khan feels the same" Related and with some mild spoilers for Ep 3; Was intrigued by Ghira's statement that he respected Sienna for what she stood for, even if he disagreed with her methods. Would like to know more about their history and past relationship together, where they friends (or more) at some point before disagreeing in what direction the White Fang should take? Or were they rivals and hated each other?
We can't discount that Ghira may have been bending the truth and sang her praises to appeal to Faunus who's ideology leans more in her direction than his. I doubt he'd have risen to become Chieftain of Menagerie and the former High Leader of the White Fang if he wasn't a little politically savvy. I want to talk about episode 3 (just watched in through the Rooster Teeth site), but idk if any of you guys have seen it yet. No worries if you want to talk about it, just remember put it under tags so people who haven't seen it (or watch it later) don't get spoiled. Speaking of which, my thoughts on episode 3; Glad that Ozpin decided not o inform Leo of his presence in Haven, due to his suspicions about his recent behaviour. Most characters in fiction tend to ignore these obvious warning signs and it's always extremely frustrating to watch.
Having Oz immediately suss something was up and take a prudent course of action to counter any possibility that Leo's gone rogue, nicely sells the notion he's been alive for thousands of years. Does Leo really think that he's the first person to have ever betrayed him? This is not his first rodeo! And because I unashamedly ship all the ships; So what does anyone think now Rose Garden finally have met (and done the meet cute) in canon? Nay or yay? lol, it's certainly possible, though Rooster Teeth could be trolling us. Then again, I was kind of hoping for it and that hint in episode 3 was definitely a step towards potential confirmation. Just hoping it doesn't end up like Arkos.
Also, with Ozpin still in the picture, things may be a bit...... well, awkward may be an understatement ("My boyfriend also has the soul of my old principal as well as his own.").
And while we're on the topic of ships, I find it a bit odd that nothing has really happened as far as Renora is concerned. Not to mention that Jaune is still #foreveralone. It would be funny to end up having him be with Yang (not that I really see it happening), or, ironically, Weiss. As for episode 4... It was GREAT. Yang kicked some ass, Ruby and Ozcar moments (I like that they're trying to get Ruby to learn hand-to-hand combat) and Oscar is starting to fit in (I would like to hear a convo between Ozpin and Oscar about his potential feelings towards Ruby because reasons (and maybe potential advice?)). Not to mention Yang playing hardball with her mom (still want to see her actually fight) and reuniting with Weiss.
Love Yang's new moves, she really learned a lot from Taiyang. Also, the built-in gun on her robotic arm was a nice touch. I thought it was gonna be 4 mini-guns (one in each knuckle) similar to Doomfist in Overwatch, but having it mounted in the forearm works too. It'd be pretty cool to see Yang pull an Ironwood and strong-arm someone/something.
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Post by Sifr on Nov 26, 2017 12:21:36 GMT
So after episode 6, am I the only one who thinks Raven's kinda got a point? Ozpin has been fighting his war against Salem for thousands of years and he's never managed to defeat her. Countless people have died fighting in their war or being used as pawns in their schemes.
As Raven reveals, Oz's special treatment towards Team RWBY was no different than Team STRQ before them, showing that they aren't the first people he's taken an interest in or tried to recruit to serve his cause.
The idea of the characters being mere pawns also shows up in "Time to Say Goodbye" (V2's theme);
"Were we born to fight and die? Sacrificed for one huge lie? Are we heroes keeping peace? Or are we weapons, pointed at the enemy, so someone else can claim a victory?"
It's not hard to see why Raven came to distrust Ozpin's motivations the more she learned. Unlike him, they don't have infinite lives and all eternity to try again if they fail. How many people exactly have died fighting Ozpin's war for him? Does he even know the number or remember all their names?
So I can't exactly blame Raven for her decision to "NOPE! out of the fight, believing it to be a futile waste of time. After all, Oz/Salem have been locked in perpetual stalemate for millennia, so she doubts that anything she will do will change that. Even if she did join him and fight, for all she knows Oz/Salem might still be waging this war centuries after she's dead and her bones have turned to dust?
Then again, Raven does acknowledge that Salem wants to use the Grimm to exterminate humanity, so it's not exactly in Raven's best interests to want to see her win. This would suggest that she knows that staying neutral won't solve anything, but she may still not believing that getting involved will accomplish anything beyond putting a target on her back?
I don't necessarily agree with her decision to bury her head in the sand, but it's not unreasonable for her to have refused the call. Maybe it's because she fears Salem, she believes that the battle is simply unwinnable, not wanting to meet the same fate as Summer, or having lost all faith in Ozpin? Speaking of Raven, still trying to figure out whether or not; She's actually a jerk or merely putting up a jerkass facade?
She seems genuinely disappointed when Yang chose to find her sister and uncle over staying with her. This might suggest that the offer she made for Yang to join the tribe was genuine.
Could be that she did want to reconcile with Yang, but this was hampered by Raven's tendency to approach all situations as requiring her to make a show of strength and assert her dominance over others (she didn't become leader of a bandit tribe by accident). Rather than admit that she wanted her daughter to stay, she instead chose to offer that twice in the form of an ultimatum, which only served to alienate Yang.
Further see that after Yang's rebuke "You weren't kind this time", Raven only responds with a quiet "I know". This may suggest that this wasn't outcome or type of reunion she'd wanted. Still doesn't mean she's not a terrible mother for abandoning her family, but it does make me wonder if some of her abrasive attitude is a front she adopts to not try and show weakness?
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Post by Bronztrooper on Dec 30, 2017 18:08:59 GMT
So, episode 10 was pretty good, and I saw episode 11 today (got First membership for a month). All I can say about episode 11 is... (double-tabbed just in case) ..... HOLY FUCK. Honestly, I'm still in shock about Weiss (been about an hour since I saw the episode as I'm typing this) and the fact that it was left off as a cliffhanger only makes it worse.
The fighting was good and everyone acted the way I'd expect them to (always knew Jaune was gonna throw himself at Cinder and that Ruby would have to save him, but I didn't expect it to play out quite the way it did). My only gripe is that, aside from a couple instances, we didn't see much of the Qrow/Raven fight (I still want to see Raven ACTUALLY fight).
As for Weiss, the fandom is divided about how it'll turn out. People think that either Jaune's Semblance will kick in and turn out to be healing-based, allowing him to heal Weiss, or Weiss is done for.
I don't exactly see RT killing off Weiss, but I'm not ruling it out yet knowing how the writers are (why can't we have nice things).
Guess we'll find out in the next episode.
On a different note, I'm not really an OTP kind of person, but Rose Garden is quickly becoming my OTP >_> I AM NOT USED TO THIS LEVEL OF SHIPPING
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Post by Sifr on Jan 16, 2018 22:54:28 GMT
So having seen Ep 12; Gorramit, Ozpin! Assuming Direct Control like that is not cool! Even if you did it to save Oscar's life, he's not going to be happy with you once he takes back the driving seat.
Gorramit, Hazel! I get that you're upset that your sister died and you blame Ozpin... but don't you think that she wouldn't have become a Huntress at all if there weren't any Grim? Why not take your anger out at the woman responsible for their creation, rather than joining her?
Gorramit, Raven! I can't really blame you for keeping it quiet that you're the Spring Maiden, but now I want to know how Vernal factored into all this? Was she your willing decoy or was she conned into thinking she was the Maiden and the power was genuinely hers? Also what was your plan when Cinder chose to enact her sudden-but-inevitable betrayal.
Gorramit, Yang! Rather than fighting Mercury, why not try to take out Emerald so she can't cast any more illusions? She should have worked out that Emerald's the one casting them from her fight with Ruby in the previous episodes, although she may have missed it. Of course, she could think that it's Mercury doing it, as she was whammied in Vol 3 during their previous fight. Regarding Rose Garden; Anyone else find it telling that upon seeing Ruby KO'd, Oscar's first reaction was to smack Leo so hard he went flying down the stairs, before dropping everything to rush over to see if Ruby was alright. Stuff like that is what makes it hard not to ship them together, because their interaction over this season has been really sweet and mutually supportive.
(It's also notable that Oscar focuses on helping an unconscious Ruby, rather than helping Weiss who had just been run-through. Granted he's not as close to Weiss as they'd only just met relatively recently, but that he prioritised Ruby is interesting in that situation) And speaking of Oscar; Can we not stop to appreciate what a really good kid he is? I like how his first instinct was to try to reason with Hazel, hoping he could perhaps talk him down and try to help him, whereas Ozpin felt it was hopeless and the only options were to run or fight.
It actually makes me wonder when Ozpin was speaking about victory would come in the form of "a simple, more honest soul", he might not only have been referring to Ruby, but also Oscar.
Many have speculated that Ozpin intentionally let Cinder kill him at the end of Vol 3, either to avoid being taken captive or as a tactical retreat, knowing he'd reincarnate elsewhere.
What if the real motivation was that Ozpin believed his incarnation had nothing to show but failure for his efforts, so chose to reincarnate into someone hopefully better than he was. As Oscar, he might not make the same type of mistakes, nor let his secretive nature push people away or lose their faith in him (Raven/Leo/Ironwood).
Of course, this theory will probably be Jossed when Oscar and Ozpin finally merge.
I'm surprised how many people (particularly reactors) seem to think that Ozpin will be the dominant personality afterwards, when his explanation in Vol 4 suggested that Oscar will be the one left standing, while the Ozpin persona fades away.
Of course, Ozpin could easily have been lying about what will happen following the merge.. and now we know he can take control without Oscar's consent, you have to wonder even more what will happen?
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Post by Galactic Runner on Feb 14, 2018 5:56:05 GMT
I'm still baffled only Ruby and Weiss are in the base roster of BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle! I know Blake and Yang will be free DLC, but, I mean, it's only 4 characters, Arc!
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Post by Bronztrooper on Feb 14, 2018 21:50:24 GMT
I'm still baffled only Ruby and Weiss are in the base roster of BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle! I know Blake and Yang will be free DLC, but, I mean, it's only 4 characters, Arc! I'm probably not getting BlazBlue, but yeah, I find it a bit odd too. But then, Grimm Eclipse started out with just team RWBY as well, so maybe JNPR could be added in later on? Speaking of Grimm Eclipse, anyone else hoping that the Volume 4 outfits will be added in, as well as more teams? Would like to see SSSN and CFVY added in and, maybe (depending on if we learn more about Summer), STRQ.
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Post by Galactic Runner on Feb 16, 2018 0:38:48 GMT
I'm still baffled only Ruby and Weiss are in the base roster of BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle! I know Blake and Yang will be free DLC, but, I mean, it's only 4 characters, Arc! I'm probably not getting BlazBlue, but yeah, I find it a bit odd too. But then, Grimm Eclipse started out with just team RWBY as well, so maybe JNPR could be added in later on? Speaking of Grimm Eclipse, anyone else hoping that the Volume 4 outfits will be added in, as well as more teams? Would like to see SSSN and CFVY added in and, maybe (depending on if we learn more about Summer), STRQ. Oh, thanks for reminding me. I need to pick up the game on PS4 at some point.
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Post by Bronztrooper on Feb 16, 2018 15:46:54 GMT
I'm probably not getting BlazBlue, but yeah, I find it a bit odd too. But then, Grimm Eclipse started out with just team RWBY as well, so maybe JNPR could be added in later on? Speaking of Grimm Eclipse, anyone else hoping that the Volume 4 outfits will be added in, as well as more teams? Would like to see SSSN and CFVY added in and, maybe (depending on if we learn more about Summer), STRQ. Oh, thanks for reminding me. I need to pick up the game on PS4 at some point. It's a good game for just running around and killing things, but it lacks in content overall. I'm hoping for more to be added on and, iirc, RT has said they might do that. For what it is, it's pretty decent, imo, but don't expect too much from it (it comes off as more of a cash grab right now, even though it can be pretty fun).
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Post by Sifr on Dec 18, 2018 14:00:41 GMT
So... what that massive lore bomb about Salem and Ozpin we got in Vol 6, huh?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 18, 2018 18:29:41 GMT
So... what that massive lore bomb about Salem and Ozpin we got in Vol 6, huh? #SalemDidNothingWrong
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Post by Bronztrooper on Dec 18, 2018 19:05:55 GMT
So... what that massive lore bomb about Salem and Ozpin we got in Vol 6, huh? ikr?
My thinking currently is that while Salem can't be killed, it is likely possible to defeat her in such a way that removes her as a threat- at least for a while. I feel like Salem may want the Lantern to ask how to stop Ozpin's reincarnation cycle, so if RWBY & Co. ask another question, it could throw a wrench in Salem's plans. This is just speculation on my part, though.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 10, 2019 4:27:42 GMT
So... what that massive lore bomb about Salem and Ozpin we got in Vol 6, huh? ikr?
My thinking currently is that while Salem can't be killed, it is likely possible to defeat her in such a way that removes her as a threat- at least for a while. I feel like Salem may want the Lantern to ask how to stop Ozpin's reincarnation cycle, so if RWBY & Co. ask another question, it could throw a wrench in Salem's plans. This is just speculation on my part, though.
I reckon she wants to gather all the relics to summon back the Gods prematurely. Ozma revealed to her that if the Relics were brought together again, but he hadn't united humanity by that point, the Gods would destroy the world for good. Salem is definitely spiteful that she would devote millennia to dividing humanity so he could never achieve his goal, but also, this explains why Ozpin is so determined to keep the Relics from her at all costs. Maybe she also wants to restart her grudge match against the Gods or thinks the Relics could give her the power she needs to murder them? Also following episode 9, what do you all make of the theory that;
"Oscar" is really Ozpin, having forcibly taken control of him (again) to prevent him from running away?
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Post by Sifr on Jan 14, 2019 4:07:49 GMT
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the fandom who doesn't ship Bumblebee. Mostly because I find it hard to reconcile the obvious similarities between Yang and Adam, as well as Blake and Raven, which make it strange to me why putting Blake and Yang together is a good idea?
Yang has obvious abandonment issues caused by her mother Raven, someone who runs away when she cannot handle her problems... an issue that Blake repeatedly demonstrated over the course of Vol 1-4. Blake may have taken steps to overcome this flaw of hers, but the desire to run is still an inherent part of her personality (it's even makes up her semblance).
Blake has suffered abuse at the hands of Adam, someone with an fiery temper, a tendency to lose control and lash out. Sound familiar to Yang's own fiery personality and explosive temper at times? Sure, Yang has taken steps to control her temper and not fight from anger, but she's spent a lot of Vol 6 being snippy and irritated at Oscar/Ozpin and Maria. And for much of Vol 6, Blake seems to be walking on eggshells to avoid upsetting Yang, much like she seems to do in flashbacks with Adam.
Obviously, Yang is nowhere near as bad as Adam, nor is Blake as self-centered as Raven, but the fact they have foils in the same two people who hurt the other the most, makes me question why people like this ship so much?
I'm not saying that if this ship becomes canon it'll ruin the show for me, but am I the only one who finds it slightly problematic?
Then again, maybe it's because I don't really enjoy their characters anyway. For someone that's shipped with everyone, Blake has all the personality of wet paint drying, while Vol 4 was the only time Yang has ever been interesting as a character.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 14, 2019 7:51:25 GMT
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the fandom who doesn't ship Bumblebee. Mostly because I find it hard to reconcile the obvious similarities between Yang and Adam, as well as Blake and Raven, which make it strange to me why putting Blake and Yang together is a good idea?
Yang has obvious abandonment issues caused by her mother Raven, someone who runs away when she cannot handle her problems... an issue that Blake repeatedly demonstrated over the course of Vol 1-4. Blake may have taken steps to overcome this flaw of hers, but the desire to run is still an inherent part of her personality (it's even makes up her semblance).
Blake has suffered abuse at the hands of Adam, someone with an fiery temper, a tendency to lose control and lash out. Sound familiar to Yang's own fiery personality and explosive temper at times? Sure, Yang has taken steps to control her temper and not fight from anger, but she's spent a lot of Vol 6 being snippy and irritated at Oscar/Ozpin and Maria. And for much of Vol 6, Blake seems to be walking on eggshells to avoid upsetting Yang, much like she seems to do in flashbacks with Adam.
Obviously, Yang is nowhere near as bad as Adam, nor is Blake as self-centered as Raven, but the fact they have foils in the same two people who hurt the other the most, makes me question why people like this ship so much?
I'm not saying that if this ship becomes canon it'll ruin the show for me, but am I the only one who finds it slightly problematic?
Then again, maybe it's because I don't really enjoy their characters anyway. For someone that's shipped with everyone, Blake has all the personality of wet paint drying, while Vol 4 was the only time Yang has ever been interesting as a character. I don’t ship them either. To be honest I don’t ship any of the ships. People can be close friends for reasons other than sexual attraction.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 14, 2019 14:20:05 GMT
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the fandom who doesn't ship Bumblebee. Mostly because I find it hard to reconcile the obvious similarities between Yang and Adam, as well as Blake and Raven, which make it strange to me why putting Blake and Yang together is a good idea?
Yang has obvious abandonment issues caused by her mother Raven, someone who runs away when she cannot handle her problems... an issue that Blake repeatedly demonstrated over the course of Vol 1-4. Blake may have taken steps to overcome this flaw of hers, but the desire to run is still an inherent part of her personality (it's even makes up her semblance).
Blake has suffered abuse at the hands of Adam, someone with an fiery temper, a tendency to lose control and lash out. Sound familiar to Yang's own fiery personality and explosive temper at times? Sure, Yang has taken steps to control her temper and not fight from anger, but she's spent a lot of Vol 6 being snippy and irritated at Oscar/Ozpin and Maria. And for much of Vol 6, Blake seems to be walking on eggshells to avoid upsetting Yang, much like she seems to do in flashbacks with Adam.
Obviously, Yang is nowhere near as bad as Adam, nor is Blake as self-centered as Raven, but the fact they have foils in the same two people who hurt the other the most, makes me question why people like this ship so much?
I'm not saying that if this ship becomes canon it'll ruin the show for me, but am I the only one who finds it slightly problematic?
Then again, maybe it's because I don't really enjoy their characters anyway. For someone that's shipped with everyone, Blake has all the personality of wet paint drying, while Vol 4 was the only time Yang has ever been interesting as a character. I don’t ship them either. To be honest I don’t ship any of the ships. People can be close friends for reasons other than sexual attraction. I would prefer the relationships between the four leads to remain only at close friendship personally. This series has enough problems with an overabundance of plot lines without introducing romantic entanglements.
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Post by Bronztrooper on Jan 14, 2019 16:03:51 GMT
I only really ship Blake/Sun and Ruby/Oscar, but near the beginning of the series I thought Ruby/Jaune may end up being a thing. And I generally don't ship characters together.
It is a bit annoying that RT keeps teasing Blake/Yang even though it would be better (imo) if they stayed close friends- I can let go of it in the Chibi series, but in the main show it gets annoying.
A lot of the other ships I don't really get, though (biggest one being Ruby/Weiss).
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 6, 2019 0:40:08 GMT
No! Not him. Now whenever I watch Fullmetal Alchemist and over stuff he’s been in it will be soiled.
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