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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 16:21:12 GMT
And finally it happened! We have Skyrim in Space! You people should rejoice! I mean after all isn't Skyrim the best game ever done, and the best RPG! This forum also is full of Skyrim fans, cause they are everywhere  Why comparison with Skyrim? Well because with this game everything started. It was praised to heavens and it was the best selling RPG. Or is it RPG? And of course other companies noticed this and decided to do the same, like: open-world approach or bigger maps in combination with bad animations, poor writing, bad quest design with contradictions, a lot of fetch quests, generic boring story, boring characters, boring exploration where you always do the same, etc. For some unknown reasons people accepted this Skyrim mediocrity? Andromeda shares many similarities with Skyrim and because of that is microanalyzed and massacred! And i agree with negative criticism, but why double standards? What, Bethesda job is only to create big map with many caves filled with same content, so that people can explore this? The rest is not important? But from Bioware people expect every game aspect to be perfect? Not to mention CDPR which would be crucified for screwing something! And this actually started with DA:I, this Bethesda philosophy which i can't stand. To me Skyrim is one of the worst games i ever played, an insult to the intelligence! Here is why: thenocturnalrambler.blogspot.ba/2012/02/skyrim-actually-kinda-sucks.html I could add much more to this article, because he didn't mention the worst things. But you get the point. And Fallout 4 is even worse. Of course! Btw, the same happened to MGS V. I absolutely love open world games, but don't fail so low to Bethesda level and their mediocrity. CDPR is way to go! |
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Post by derrame on Mar 26, 2017 16:48:20 GMT
yes, i agree, unnecessarily gigantic maps, with borng repetitive simple fetch qusts, that kind of boredom kills the game,
Andromeda should be mains story misions, loyalty missions, side quests as good as main missions, and some few funny little or interesting quests, that's it
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Post by arreyanne on Mar 26, 2017 16:49:33 GMT
Skyrim is a modders dream machine and with mods is probably one of the most enjoyable RPG's to play. The modding community has brought almost anything you can desire to Skyrim. What does DA:I offer in that area ZIPPO. What will Andromeda offer in that area ZIPPO.
The creativity brought to Skyrim through mods is what makes it the the praise game of RPG's. There's even a complete game mod for Skyrim, in a different setting
The last game BioWare made with the true ability to be modded was DA:O and to an extent DA2, and ME2 and ME3 with tools made by the community to allow a small amount of mods.
So scream all you want about how terrible Bethseda and their games are. Until BioWare gets off the "We won't allow mods because then you won't buy our armor and weapon DLC" and allows the community to add or change or improve things in their games Skyrim will still be a better play
And btw your opinion is yours and if you like and believe it stick with it. I however disagree with your assessment and I'm sure you disagree with mine. So have a nice day.
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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 17:02:40 GMT
Skyrim is a modders dream machine and with mods is probably one of the most enjoyable RPG's to play. The modding community has brought almost anything you can desire to Skyrim. What does DA:I offer in that area ZIPPO. What will Andromeda offer in that area ZIPPO. The creativity brought to Skyrim through mods is what makes it the the praise game of RPG's. There's even a complete game mod for Skyrim, in a different setting The last game BioWare made with the true ability to be modded was DA:O and to an extent DA2, and ME2 and ME3 with tools made by the community to allow a small amount of mods. So scream all you want about how terrible Bethseda and their games are. Until BioWare gets off the "We won't allow mods because then you won't buy our armor and weapon DLC" and allows the community to add or change or improve things in their games Skyrim will still be a better play And btw your opinion is yours and if you like and believe it stick with it. I however disagree with your assessment and I'm sure you disagree with mine. So have a nice day. Wrong!!! Where were mods when Skyrim was released!? And Skyrim can't be fixed with mods, ok!? Also should i wait for modders to fix a game!? With Skyrim people have supported and praised mediocrity. And sooner or later mediocrity will become standard. It will spread like disease! And this is what's happening. |
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Post by ilsen on Mar 26, 2017 17:06:55 GMT
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Post by JiM on Mar 26, 2017 17:17:05 GMT
Skyrim is a modders dream machine and with mods is probably one of the most enjoyable RPG's to play. The modding community has brought almost anything you can desire to Skyrim. What does DA:I offer in that area ZIPPO. What will Andromeda offer in that area ZIPPO. The creativity brought to Skyrim through mods is what makes it the the praise game of RPG's. There's even a complete game mod for Skyrim, in a different setting The last game BioWare made with the true ability to be modded was DA:O and to an extent DA2, and ME2 and ME3 with tools made by the community to allow a small amount of mods. So scream all you want about how terrible Bethseda and their games are. Until BioWare gets off the "We won't allow mods because then you won't buy our armor and weapon DLC" and allows the community to add or change or improve things in their games Skyrim will still be a better play And btw your opinion is yours and if you like and believe it stick with it. I however disagree with your assessment and I'm sure you disagree with mine. So have a nice day. Where were mods when Skyrim was released!? And Skyrim can't be fixed with mods, ok!? Also should i wait for modders to fix a game!? I'm sure it's worth it where possible. What do you think of their patch notes?  |
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 26, 2017 17:17:41 GMT
Here is a big difference. I hated Skyrims puzzles, but I enjoy MEAs puzzles. I actually enjoy them.
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Post by House Targaryen on Mar 26, 2017 17:36:48 GMT
Something akin to Skyrim with guns?
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Post by Nocturnis on Mar 26, 2017 18:22:53 GMT
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Post by Doctor Fumbles on Mar 26, 2017 18:26:18 GMT
Something akin to Skyrim with guns? The Fallout series is Skyrim with guns. |
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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 18:44:32 GMT
Where were mods when Skyrim was released!? And Skyrim can't be fixed with mods, ok!? Also should i wait for modders to fix a game!? I'm sure it's worth it where possible. What do you think of their patch notes? In Skyrim you can join the dark brotherhood, kill the Emperor 2 times, and then sign up for the imperial legion the very next day!? And they know you are murderer! First time you kill fake Emperor, guards catch you and you pay a fine for trying to kill an Emperor!? Again, you pay fine trying to kill an Emperor!? Second time you kill real Emperor on such a ridiculous way where guards practically let you do it!? You can't fix this! And game is full of this nonsense. This is famous Bethesda quest design!? And somehow you should connect yourself with the world through quests, characters, story, etc. Well this is only possible if persons intelligence is on the level of cooked potato! Would you like to see this in ME? |
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Post by Kroitz on Mar 26, 2017 18:48:54 GMT
Skyrim in space sounds pretty great.
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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 18:51:47 GMT
And finally it happened! We have Skyrim in Space! You people should rejoice! I mean after all isn't Skyrim the best game ever done, and the best RPG! This forum also is full of Skyrim fans, cause they are everywhere ... For some unknown reasons people accepted this Skyrim mediocrity? Skyrim has a fuckton of mods that modify every aspect of the game, with recent BW games we are lucky to have even SOME mods that make small modifications. Skyrim was also the new hotness quite awhile ago.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 26, 2017 18:52:24 GMT
You got it right when you called skyrim mediocre. Never finished that game despite putting about one hundred hours into it.
But DAI i put five hundred hours in across five pts...
And from where i sit now it's ridiculous to call MEA open world when three of the four maps I've been to are as closed off as anything in ME 3
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Post by arreyanne on Mar 26, 2017 19:26:50 GMT
Im glad you liked DA:I personally one of the most boring games Ive ever played never even finished it
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 26, 2017 19:48:23 GMT
Skyrim is a modders dream machine and with mods is probably one of the most enjoyable RPG's to play. The modding community has brought almost anything you can desire to Skyrim. What does DA:I offer in that area ZIPPO. What will Andromeda offer in that area ZIPPO. After one playthrough of Skyrim unmodded, the last thing I wanted was more Skyrim. So mods, no mods, it's all the same to me. Isn't finding a mod or set of mods that you like a bit of a time sink? |
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Post by Addictress on Mar 26, 2017 19:54:56 GMT
I loved Skyrim, unmodded. Skyrim is one of my favorite games of all time, without mods.
But it's a travesty that Bioware thinks it needs to make every game like Skyrim. It's simply not true. I never asked, nor wantedMass Effect to be like Skyrim. At all. I don't know who put this ridiculous idea into their heads. Clearly whoever did, never understood why their fans loved Mass Effect in the first place, and why Mass Effect was critically acclaimed.
It's a strategic failure. It's an inability to analyze the market.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 26, 2017 19:59:44 GMT
You want better side quests? You get them! You want more pointless and unimportant fluff to keep you busy even after the game is over? You also get them!
* Whines *
Yeah, the cycle cannot be broken. Also, I love how some mention TW3, because that game also didn't have quests where you simple had to raise three piles from the ground to please some old lady and there was no payoff to them, right?
Goddamn.
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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 20:21:26 GMT
I loved Skyrim, unmodded. Skyrim is one of my favorite games of all time, without mods. But it's a travesty that Bioware thinks it needs to make every game like Skyrim. It's simply not true. I never asked, nor wantedMass Effect to be like Skyrim. At all. I don't know who put this ridiculous idea into their heads. Clearly whoever did, never understood why their fans loved Mass Effect in the first place, and why Mass Effect was critically acclaimed. It's a strategic failure. It's an inability to analyze the market. Yes but the problem are double standards. One game you praise, other you negatively criticize, and both have similar nonsense? Also this isn't the same Bioware. What makes you think they care about you? |
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 26, 2017 20:27:45 GMT
I wish there was more then one type of labeling for RPG's given how game like skyrim and the ME trilogy were so different in terms of how they played. Now I played skyrim alot and liked it but it is nothing like MEA. Yes MEA has alot of tiny sidequests that are just there to kill time but alot of games have that. bethesda rarely does a good narrative story or interesting main story or even side stories. Saying people love skyrim so they want every game to be like skyrim is like saying someone likes call of duty and wants every game to be like that.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Mar 26, 2017 20:28:06 GMT
I disagree, Skyrim is good. It's fallout 4 that was the real disappointment that said I don't think Bioware should try to copy Skyrim at all.
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Post by Ancient on Mar 26, 2017 20:59:21 GMT
I disagree, Skyrim is good. It's fallout 4 that was the real disappointment that said I don't think Bioware should try to copy Skyrim at all. Fallout 4 is Skyrim with guns. And this new Bioware incorporates Bethesda quantity over quality philosophy. |
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Post by Nayawk on Mar 26, 2017 21:33:57 GMT
Really didn't like Skyrim, I tried I really did, but it was not the game for me. On the other hand I am loving the hell out of ME:A, for some reason the sci-fi setting lends itself to the open worldness better than fantasy for me.
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