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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 2, 2017 7:14:46 GMT
Also, given how confident TIM is that he can control the Reapers, I'm really not sure he would go to the trouble of dealing with the Initiative in the first place (not to mention partially funding it makes Cerberus's capabilities even more absurd than they were in ME3) but that's another topic. TIM doesn't seem to have known he could control the Reapers until ME3. The AI was already established at the point and had gone on their way. Nothing in ME2 suggests TIM believed he could control Reapers. TIM only was truly indoctrinated when he upgraded himself to use the Catalyst like Shepard--the Reaper tech overwhelming him.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Apr 2, 2017 7:23:24 GMT
As happy as I was to get ME3 easter eggs, they felt...weirdly out of place. Yes, I squeed when Cavitus Vakarian turned up and I got to hear Brandon Keener's voice again. But the weird thing is that Ryder gets this really heavy information about the ME3 Reaper invasion...and then nothing comes of it. Never talks to SAM about it. Never mentions it again. It really felt like it was directed at the player and not the character, which always jars immersion for me.
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Post by Trynstark on Apr 2, 2017 7:27:18 GMT
I said Cerberus, not TIM. Lilith, the woman from the Citadel DLC is former Cerberus for example, and still got plenty done without her former employees resources. Keep in mind, even if he didn't seem it, TIM WAS indoctrinated. creating a 'back up plan' to escape the Reapers does not seem like something that a Reaper indoctrinated person would do... ... then again, neither does reviving the only real person that was ever considered a threat to the reapers so we're back at square one. During ME2 he wasn't indoctrinated yet I think TIM had been indoctrinated long before Mass Effect 1, There is a comic that cover that and It seems that his eyes are from that (He touched a Reaper device as Saren and his related turian that died in that comic)
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Post by Revan Reborn on Apr 2, 2017 7:29:29 GMT
Other than it being a nice easter egg for those of us who played the original trilogy, the whole reaper thing really didn't add anything to the game. I'm actually surprised BioWare would even touch this subject due to how divisive the ME3 endings are.
Of course, there is never any explanation about what happened. All Alec knew is things were bad and that was the extent of it. I can't see BioWare ever making a canon ME3 ending, so I really don't see where they are going to take this, if anywhere.
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Post by Uhuru N'Uru on Apr 2, 2017 11:25:22 GMT
Biggest reason, I don't think it's Cerberus, or TIM, is they would only fund Human Arks, and wouldn't have sought Council approval.
I think it was the original Shadow Broker, and the reason he was confident he could evade the reapers, it also explains how Liara knew of the Arks existance. His plans went south when Liara replaced him. it also explains why things went bad, as his agents were left to fight for control. Two fanctions emerged, and both the current leadership of AI, and the rebellion have want to be "Shadow Broker's", pulling strings from the shadows.
Maybe even more than 2 factions exist, but until Ryder arrived to follow the public AI goals, the SB's aims were focused on destroying each other.
Tann's Shadow going for the Control Nexus approach, and Exile's Shadow using the Isolate Nexus, and Starve them out. The entire plot is so full of holes, like why was the Scourge not seen on approach, even if you accept the Nexus missed it. It would have QEC links to each Ark, yet no warning was given.
Then there's the size of the Nexus It's massive, and the events after arrival mean it remains in the umfinished state it arrived in, with added damage from the scourge. Why were Arks even needed, all the colonists could have been on the Nexus, Redundancy, and polotics, I assume.
Then there's the giving up on Arks after only 14 months, when the Nexus was intended to arrive first, and be fully constructed by the time they arrived. How long was that construction supposed to take, from the moment I arrived, I considered the Leadership of every faction to be incompetant, if not actively working against the public plan.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the game, more than all the others, but I never have understood the idea that Bioware are goood at story telling, the previous games had just as many major flaws, in the plot, huge holes that made no sense, They are reasonably competent, at relationships, but rubbish at the big story details, and consistancy, and were with the trilogy.
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Post by CTPhipps on Apr 2, 2017 11:28:23 GMT
Biggest reason, I don't think it's Cerberus, or TIM, is they would only fund Human Arks, and wouldn't have sought Council approval. Cerberus works with aliens just fine. Also, Jien Garson is Space Elon Musk and the project's creator. It's equivalent to Elon founding a space expedition, running out of money halfway, and then the CIA giving him the money to finish it and getting the red tape cut. It doesn't make the CIA in charge.
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