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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 1, 2017 8:22:33 GMT
Fair review, thanks for sharing.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 1, 2017 8:28:12 GMT
Fair review, thanks for sharing. Thanks - a lot of the negative reviews I've seen seem to dog-pile on common criticisms, and I didn't always feel like the reviewer(s) played through the entire game. This is probably one of the few reviews where I feel like the reviewer put in the honest hours and gave an accurate representation of the game in its current state.
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Post by lastpawn on Apr 1, 2017 8:43:39 GMT
DIdn't GB say that ME2 was the greatest game of its generation? While I ultimately enjoyed it, I thought ME2 killed just about everything I loved about ME1, particularly its promise of exploration and discovery.
So I find it hard to agree with the same organization saying that ME:A lost the soul of Mass Effect, whatever that means.
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Post by vanillah on Apr 1, 2017 8:44:40 GMT
Yep, GinatBomb guys never fail to deliver. Their no-bullshit reviews are always on point, they mirror my thoughts on ME:A exactly.
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Post by rheia on Apr 1, 2017 8:52:41 GMT
I share many of the sentiments of that review, except I cannot get behind their view on combat being a "marked improvement". I may be on odd one out, but give me tactical pause and squadmate control any day over the pure shooter experience. If I all I wanted was a shooter, there are better ones out there, anyway.
I emphasize with that conclusion, too. Do not get me wrong, I am glad that some people are having fun with the game, and getting their money's worth enjoying it, but Andromeda left me cold. For a time I tried to persuade myself that I am clinging to the trilogy's past glory, or just not 'keeping up with the times'. And maybe I am. Maybe not enjoying Inquisition as much as previous DA titles was a sign. But if it is so, then clearly BioWare is not my go-to for entertainment anymore, and it has been for close to 2 decades now. Hard to turn your back on something like that.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 1, 2017 9:03:29 GMT
Yup, this review was spot-on. I don't hate the game, but it absolutely was not worth the money I paid for it, and if I could go back in time I would not purchase it again.
It feels very strange to say that a game that was in development for five years was released way before it was ready, but here we are.
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Post by asukhama on Apr 1, 2017 9:24:40 GMT
a very fair review. I've seen people claim this game is GOTY material.
Standards of quality have taken a Trump in the last few years. Andromeda just doesn't compel me to play it, at all. I sigh at the thought of the remaining and upcoming 30 mundane fetch quests, the glitches, the poor writing, and the total lack of sensible UI/UX design in almost all aspects of the interface and menus.
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Post by ymirr on Apr 1, 2017 9:37:50 GMT
My biggest gripe with this game "Worse, many of the longer quest chains require you to bounce back and forth between multiple planets for contrived reasons, and since the transit animations between systems and from planet to planet are all interminably long and unskippable, a side quest that could have been completed in a couple of minutes in a single location becomes agonizingly tedious as it stretches over 20 minutes or more. "
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Post by vonuber on Apr 1, 2017 9:40:33 GMT
That review falls into the trap of judging the characters off one game and the MET off 3 games worth. A fairer comparison is to judge the original MET characters from one game also - which would not be as favourable.
The biggest curse of ME:A has been the trilogy and the rose tinted glasses it is viewed with. The trilogy makes the 3 games greater than their component parts, something ME:A can never achieve.
Obviously there is no excuse for some of the technical failings - that should be QA'd of death - but I still think it is judged to impossible standards. The plot is no better than the trilogy (well ME2 excluded as that plot got taken to the basement and shot).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 9:58:18 GMT
If people stop comparing the characters of 3 games with only Andromeda that would be great. Trilogys characters had shitload of time to develop, for example; I hated Kaidan in ME1 and always saved Ash but later I learnt that Kaidan becomes an awesome bro in ME3 it's like that. If you want to compare, just compare them with ME1
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 1, 2017 10:12:12 GMT
That review falls into the trap of judging the characters off one game and the MET off 3 games worth. A fairer comparison is to judge the original MET characters from one game also - which would not be as favourable. The biggest curse of ME:A has been the trilogy and the rose tinted glasses it is viewed with. The trilogy makes the 3 games greater than their component parts, something ME:A can never achieve. Obviously there is no excuse for some of the technical failings - that should be QA'd of death - but I still think it is judged to impossible standards. The plot is no better than the trilogy (well ME2 excluded as that plot got taken to the basement and shot). Yeah, it's pretty much a trap. Like, if we were to compare Vetra to Garrus, Garrus gets the clear advantage of being developed throughout the trilogy, but if you were to do that same comparison to just ME1 Garrus, then it's a whole different story. ME1 Garrus was basically a turian statue in the cargo bay that said and did little, and to be honest, I don't recall him having much to talk about in ME2 either. The bulk of his character revolved around getting his revenge on Sidonis. Once that was resolved, there wasn't much left to talk about and you'd just get calibrations if you tried. It wasn't until ME3 that the character really came into his own. The one and only companion in the original trilogy that I would say stuck out the most as a solid companion with lots of compelling attributes would be Mordin. Mordin is easily the best companion in the trilogy, in my opinion, because he was the most thought-provoking and could manage to be funny at the same time. None of the companions in Andromeda, I feel, really come to Mordin's level, but Mordin is one I also feel to be a rarity in the franchise as a whole. I should make an honorable mention to Javik as well, as I feel he is also a major bright spot in the trilogy, but his being a [paid] DLC character compels me to disqualify him just the same.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 1, 2017 10:36:03 GMT
The best comparison would be to compare everyone to James Vega. That should be the yardstick - unless they make a sequel with the same charachters (which I hope they do).
The bigger issue for me is whether Mass Effect should be this semi open world or a simple wide point to point corridor. That is the bigger issue I think, not the plot or charachters as that is always subjective.
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Post by anacronian on Apr 1, 2017 10:44:31 GMT
If people stop comparing the characters of 3 games with only Andromeda that would be great. Trilogys characters had shitload of time to develop, for example; I hated Kaidan in ME1 and always saved Ash but later I learnt that Kaidan becomes an awesome bro in ME3 it's like that. If you want to compare, just compare them with ME1 The characters in MEA has more dialogue and more interactions than any of the characters in the old trilogy combined and they still come off as flat, poorly written and mediocre voice acted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 10:51:57 GMT
If people stop comparing the characters of 3 games with only Andromeda that would be great. Trilogys characters had shitload of time to develop, for example; I hated Kaidan in ME1 and always saved Ash but later I learnt that Kaidan becomes an awesome bro in ME3 it's like that. If you want to compare, just compare them with ME1 The characters in MEA has more dialogue and more interactions than any of the characters in the old trilogy combined and they still come off as flat, poorly written and mediocre voice acted. Having more dialogue doesn't mean being developed more, and which character was poor written and had mediocre voice acting exactly? Maybe Liam, but others were just fine
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Post by Fogg on Apr 1, 2017 10:54:11 GMT
I agree with the review on most points, but still like the game. I accept this is how the story goes, although I would have done something completely different if I was BioWare.
I do agree with others here that point out that you can't compare squadmates from ME:A to the ones of the trilogy. It's almost like people expected fresh new NPC's to feel as close as the squad in the Citadel DLC. I feel like they did a better job than in ME1 with the squad.
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Post by mmoblitz on Apr 1, 2017 11:24:40 GMT
I have said it before and I will say it again, having 'Mass Effect" in the title is going to bring comparisons to the OT fair or not. That is just the way it is with all games that have a series. Bioware knew going in that people weren't going to just ignore the past games. I wonder if this was aimed at a new audience or at least gamers who haven't played the past ME games? It certainly is aimed at a different generation of gamer.
Minus the romance scenes, it reminds me of the type of show my youngest daughter might watch on Nickelodeon. The writing/characters fit right in to that type of theme.
I did my one play-through and I'm washing my hands of it, just like I did DAI. I hope the last two games Bioware released isn't indicative of what direction they are going. If so, I'm done with them.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 1, 2017 11:25:26 GMT
I agree with most of this, it sums up perfectly why I haven't been able to enjoy this game as much as I had hoped I would.
I've been saying from the start this game needed more development time because some of these bugs and technical issue make it hard to enjoy the game. I'm glad he posted a video because too many times people say well I haven't experienced any of these issues people are saying, or they'll say you're exaggerating. It's that bad for some people.
I also agree on only having two new races in what was supposed to be a fresh start game, the characters, and definitely the quest set up and quest compass, the thing is terrible.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 1, 2017 12:10:23 GMT
If it had just been humans and new races people would complain about there being none of the old ones. Having say 4 or 5 new races plus the milky way ones would be a huge task as well.
Again, bioware were on a hiding to nothing.
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Post by Pearl on Apr 1, 2017 12:15:17 GMT
I hope the last two games Bioware released isn't indicative of what direction they are going. If so, I'm done with them. I believe it is. One game could easily be considered a fluke or misstep, but two in a row (three if we count TOR but that's not really comparable) is a perfectly valid reason to set off alarm bells.
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Post by ymirr on Apr 1, 2017 12:45:04 GMT
My biggest gripe with this game "Worse, many of the longer quest chains require you to bounce back and forth between multiple planets for contrived reasons, and since the transit animations between systems and from planet to planet are all interminably long and unskippable, a side quest that could have been completed in a couple of minutes in a single location becomes agonizingly tedious as it stretches over 20 minutes or more. "When I was nearing the end of the game and wanted to finish off some side quests(not tasks) this drove me NUTS! Yeah, I was struggling with the thought of "should I just finish the main story? Or force myself through this?" I ended up doing some more, before ending it all when I was doing Peebee's quest. It broke me.
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Post by griffith82 on Apr 1, 2017 12:47:01 GMT
That review falls into the trap of judging the characters off one game and the MET off 3 games worth. A fairer comparison is to judge the original MET characters from one game also - which would not be as favourable. The biggest curse of ME:A has been the trilogy and the rose tinted glasses it is viewed with. The trilogy makes the 3 games greater than their component parts, something ME:A can never achieve. Obviously there is no excuse for some of the technical failings - that should be QA'd of death - but I still think it is judged to impossible standards. The plot is no better than the trilogy (well ME2 excluded as that plot got taken to the basement and shot). For the most part I agree. I said this long before it came out that the game will be judged by impossible standards. I love the MET but that is being used to judge this which is unfair.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 1, 2017 12:48:41 GMT
DIdn't GB say that ME2 was the greatest game of its generation? While I ultimately enjoyed it, I thought ME2 killed just about everything I loved about ME1, particularly its promise of exploration and discovery. So I find it hard to agree with the same organization saying that ME:A lost the soul of Mass Effect, whatever that means. Agreed, I thought ME2 was terrible. I wasn't even interested in MEA until I started hearing rumblings about it on review sites and I figured if they loved ME2 and not MEA maybe I'll like MEA. MEA is... okay. It isn't the epic space opera that ME1 was but it also wasn't the Michael Bay step-child that ME2 was. The combat systems are good, the story was adequate if predictable, and the characters were relatable if not memorable. Most of my complaints would be technical (CC is just bad, face and body models look really awkward, and at times the lighting is extremely washed out) but overall it was a comfortably mediocre experience. I'm disappointed in that it is clear this wasn't BW's best effort but I don't feel like they crushed the emotional attachment I had with the series the way ME2 did.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Apr 1, 2017 13:01:56 GMT
Yeah ME1's companions were a little flat other than Wrex but most of them developed throughout the series. Having more dialogue doesn't mean they get more development either, they have similar character arcs to the trilogy they just have more to say, mostly on missions and as banter rather than in conversation with Ryder.
ME2 did a better job but there were a lot more companions to focus on and the plot of the game was mostly about recruiting them. That said Mordin, Samara, Thane and Legion are good examples of very strong companions who were only available as companions in one game.
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Post by mordrek on Apr 1, 2017 13:07:29 GMT
I tend to agree with him on the review. Anyone saying they didn't experience an incredible amount of bugs/glitches is just lying, they just weren't game breaking bugs and you learn to ignore them. I played on PC, my nephew and brother played on Xbone. In my 80+ hour playthough on PC I probably saw graphic bugs and glitches every 5 minutes or less. My brother on the Xbox was worse. PC seemed far less glitchy than the Xbox, which I find shocking. A very simple bug that is in every version of ME:A is when you are running up certain flights of stairs you get stuck and have to jump. Probably happened in well over a dozen "unique" buildings on the overland maps. Those kinds of things are simply unacceptable, and never should have made it through QA. Another would be that "baby step" that you have to jump out of, or your character just keeps walking in a line.
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