Post by dayze on Aug 28, 2016 2:40:37 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if someone else has come up with the same idea's over the years but here's my go at it.
Solas:
Keeps doing the same thing; took the light of the sun into the earth and took it out again.
When out; the sun in elven mythology "burns the earth". So Elgarnan imprisons him in the earth.
Isn't that what he says will happen when he opens the fade to set things back to how they used to be? The "earth will burn" in the fade or some such sort of thing?
Keeps killing Flemeth? There's the wolf with the dragon mosiac with the sword in it's back another where he is devouring Mythal. It certainly seems to be something he's done a time or two.
Solas just keeps killing Mythal over and over again, doing the same cycle of destroying and recreating Thedas with the fade?
Cole mentions Solas being in two places at once, and Solas had to leave a piece of himself behind to escape his eluvian trap. Is that piece his "Dread Wolf" persona that haunts the fade?
Is the Dread Wolf, Solas's "Archdemon" self? Perhaps a piece of himself left behind in some animal like a wolf ala how the other OG's left pieces here and there, dragons, pools, amulets and who knows where else?
Or being a spirit, is The Dread Wolf, simply how people viewed him and when they summoned him, transformed him like the Wisdom Spirit was transformed into a Pride Demon by it's conjurers because that's how they viewed it?
Solas is a mind wiped Elgarnan?
Did "burning of Mythal's mark" actually be what "gave" Solas a body?
Didn't the Shartan traveling with Andraste get portrayed with an "orb" on occasion? If so; we might be looking at Solas or possibly another OG. That being said; Solas is a trickster god type and Shartan sounds suspiciously close to "Satan" if you think about it.
If Solas is Shartan and had an affair with Andraste......that's pretty similar to what he did with the inquisition.
Titans:
The maker; is the light that signs in the Titans that is not their heart but something else. The Orb that Solas makes is "of the maker" in some way.
Titans are "the maker/the land"; or at least they are the actual entities that created anything and than the "Sun" was imprisoned in them. And the elven gods took a chance on reawakening it when they killed Titans and that's what freaked out the other elves enough to even call them false gods?
The Black City is/is on top of.....a dead titan? Titan's have mindless witless minions according to the elves back then, who else has mind less witless minions? Archdemon's and the darkspawn, also The Maker and Spirits.
Did Solas kill a Titan and than trap all the gods in it claiming they would get the power of the orb? Are the Darkspawn just what happens when a Titan dies and some kind of supernatural bacteria "feeds" on it?
The Fade is the minds of the Titans? That's why they can feel it when something big happens to it?
Supposedly Mythal killed a Titan back in the day, are the dwarves the result of that in some way?
Also if Titans have the maker trapped in them, and Sandal has some connection to Titans......does that mean he really is essentially Thedas-Jesus?
If Titans are a prison of some kind, is it possible there are actually "Multiple" makers of one kind or another from multiple myth structures?
Dragons:
Are said to have the "blood of the earth". With Titans that seems to be lyrium, possibly Dragon's are straight connected to the actual "Maker"?
One question; all flying, winged dragons, the most powerful ones are female. Is there some possible connection between that and men not being allowed to be priests and the archdemon's being male instead of the usual female?
Back in the old days, a formless entity (the unformed one from the Forgotten Ones?) takes the shape of the "divine" and flies. Presumably it took the shape of a dragon and flew around. It could also be a metaphor for trying to start it's own false religion.
Why are gods so often associated with dragons? Jaws of Hakkon, Elven Gods, Archdemons, The Neromian Heroes, even the Andrastian Cult. I want to say when you are running around in Inquisition there's a stone tablet of Andraste holding up the skull of a dragon as well.
Also; don't you get knowledge from the Well of Sorrows? Doesn't something similar happen if you drink the "blood of a wyvern" and get the memories of the village and it's ancestors get pumped into you? Does that mean any warden who does this is "bound" to Andraste? What does that mean about The Grey Wardens and the Arch Demon.....could they actually be serving their will by killing them?
Also; if the darkspawn are just some kind of ersatz-zombie dwarves from a Titan......what does it mean that it goes straight for the Archdemons? What's their connection to The Titans?
The Maker:
Possible also the "Sun" from the Elven myths.
Though much of what we think of as being central to the Maker may actually be a Titan/the land pulling on the power of the maker back in the day to create things.
The Void:
Apparently it comes from within?
There's the dark/shadow lady/shadowy goddess (any connection to Andruil?), way back in the past that gets beaten by an avalanche or something.
The Darkspawn and the Arch Demons obviously.
That mosaic with the "Sun" beating down on some elves with a hole in the center of their bodies. Is the void/the blight central to beating/containing The Maker/The Sun and not just a trap to punish the unwary? Thinking about it; I think we also don't see the "center" of the sun but just the outside of it being drawn.
When creatures touch the fade and something larger they go "white". Creatures touched by the blight go "black". Any connection to the "white" and "black" Divines?
The forgotten ones are wicked things that dwell in the abyss......darkspawn? Something else altogether?
Cory:
Considering that he gets immortality from travelling into the fade and ends up with "The Orb/power of The Maker/Gods". He does get what he wanted doesn't he? The power of the gods.
Why did the gods stop speaking to him? Did they ever? Even he seems to question it. Was it something by fade spirits/demons? Some kind of "long con" by the elvhen gods to work on getting free and once they got what they wanted out of him and the tevinters, they stopped pretending to be "Gods" for him?
Non-specific stuff:
Why are their so many similarities? Cory and Solas, The Elven Gods, The Maker, The Avaar and probably others I'm not even thinking of.
Gods, people and spirits seem to be doing the same or similar things over and over. Is Thedas as a whole bound to something? Is there some kind of connection to "the song" of archdemons and titans or even Justice talking about the fade?
Part of the problem with saying; because something is similar between the myth's they represent the same being, but it could be the gods are for some reason like the mortals being pulled into some kind of rhythm?
Or is this simply an example of how limited/simplistic "The Spirits" really are? How little they can change their behaviors and characteristics even when called into different people, mythologies and times?
And of course......Time Travel to make it all even more confusing. Why couldn't Alexus travel beyond when the Inquisitor got the mark? Is Fade energy something capable of stopping "Chronal Magic"?
Considering the nature of what Solas wants to do; is it possible there is "no pre-Inquisitor got the mark" time? That the DAI game is actually set in some kind of splinter/alternate time line that starts there in Solas's attempt to remake his old world? The reason Alexus can't go any further is because there is no "further" to go?
And of course Solas himself pointing out; myth's were made by desperate people and giving him more credit than he is due. Even when history and myths are 90% accurate, it's reasonable to assume we never really get the whole picture even at it's best. Everything is still murky.
And it's possible all these things are similar because the people of Thedas on some level "want " them to be or are themselves fairly similar?
Solas is a betrayer with wolves, maferath is a betrayer and has been at least depicted with two chained wolves before.
When Flemeth gets her soul stolen and she goes "black".....is that in some way connected to the blight and the darkspawn? Is the blight what happens when your soul gets stolen and when it occurs with a god-like entity such as a Titan it happens on a more real/supernatural level than just a basic color change and death for spirits and mortals?
Originally the game was going to be based around a sword that could kill the arch demon, there's also the repeated image of Mythal with a big ol' sword in her back and that star sword that gets stolen by the assassins, Vigilance a sword forged from the bones of ancient dragons?
You would think someone would have crafted a "Vigilance" form the bones of an archdemon by now, armor too.....especially when originally the wardens had to kill them multiple times.
Also as easy as it is to suck up "OG" souls, by humans with the dark ritual and Solas and Flemeth, it seems like it wouldn't take "that" much work to make something that could suck up the archdemon soul and use it as a weapon or power something up.
Are Arcane Warriors and Reavers just two sides of the same coin?
Whats with all the two/thread headed snake imagery? Also the "Snake-Kings" that live under the earth get referenced with granite pillars and in the Veilfire Runes codex, there are references to them "uncoiling and recoiling like serpents" and the pillars of the earth. Why does the Tevinter Banner have a dragon fighting a serpent? The ancient statues in t he hissing wastes with what look like Serpents around The Venatori? Maferath with a white serpent coiled around him in one of the pictures? When they trap Andruil, Mythal takes the from of a monstrous serpent. The Dwarves account of fighting people who look like men but with scales? The Draconis constellation? Is there another faction we haven't even been introduced to yet?
Possibly earlier race of people who went Reaver? Cassandra claims her family had people who became reavers and got scales etc......on that note, why aren't the Cultists of Andraste weirder looking after centuries(millenia?) of drinking up all the dragon's blood they can get?
Are there moon men? I mean, we already met a star child so it's possible.
How do Insects figure into this? Hive minds, The Mother's Children, the avaar's helmets, horns but if you think about it, kind of also look like "antenna" from a moth or something.
Solas:
Keeps doing the same thing; took the light of the sun into the earth and took it out again.
When out; the sun in elven mythology "burns the earth". So Elgarnan imprisons him in the earth.
Isn't that what he says will happen when he opens the fade to set things back to how they used to be? The "earth will burn" in the fade or some such sort of thing?
Keeps killing Flemeth? There's the wolf with the dragon mosiac with the sword in it's back another where he is devouring Mythal. It certainly seems to be something he's done a time or two.
Solas just keeps killing Mythal over and over again, doing the same cycle of destroying and recreating Thedas with the fade?
Cole mentions Solas being in two places at once, and Solas had to leave a piece of himself behind to escape his eluvian trap. Is that piece his "Dread Wolf" persona that haunts the fade?
Is the Dread Wolf, Solas's "Archdemon" self? Perhaps a piece of himself left behind in some animal like a wolf ala how the other OG's left pieces here and there, dragons, pools, amulets and who knows where else?
Or being a spirit, is The Dread Wolf, simply how people viewed him and when they summoned him, transformed him like the Wisdom Spirit was transformed into a Pride Demon by it's conjurers because that's how they viewed it?
Solas is a mind wiped Elgarnan?
Did "burning of Mythal's mark" actually be what "gave" Solas a body?
Didn't the Shartan traveling with Andraste get portrayed with an "orb" on occasion? If so; we might be looking at Solas or possibly another OG. That being said; Solas is a trickster god type and Shartan sounds suspiciously close to "Satan" if you think about it.
If Solas is Shartan and had an affair with Andraste......that's pretty similar to what he did with the inquisition.
Titans:
The maker; is the light that signs in the Titans that is not their heart but something else. The Orb that Solas makes is "of the maker" in some way.
Titans are "the maker/the land"; or at least they are the actual entities that created anything and than the "Sun" was imprisoned in them. And the elven gods took a chance on reawakening it when they killed Titans and that's what freaked out the other elves enough to even call them false gods?
The Black City is/is on top of.....a dead titan? Titan's have mindless witless minions according to the elves back then, who else has mind less witless minions? Archdemon's and the darkspawn, also The Maker and Spirits.
Did Solas kill a Titan and than trap all the gods in it claiming they would get the power of the orb? Are the Darkspawn just what happens when a Titan dies and some kind of supernatural bacteria "feeds" on it?
The Fade is the minds of the Titans? That's why they can feel it when something big happens to it?
Supposedly Mythal killed a Titan back in the day, are the dwarves the result of that in some way?
Also if Titans have the maker trapped in them, and Sandal has some connection to Titans......does that mean he really is essentially Thedas-Jesus?
If Titans are a prison of some kind, is it possible there are actually "Multiple" makers of one kind or another from multiple myth structures?
Dragons:
Are said to have the "blood of the earth". With Titans that seems to be lyrium, possibly Dragon's are straight connected to the actual "Maker"?
One question; all flying, winged dragons, the most powerful ones are female. Is there some possible connection between that and men not being allowed to be priests and the archdemon's being male instead of the usual female?
Back in the old days, a formless entity (the unformed one from the Forgotten Ones?) takes the shape of the "divine" and flies. Presumably it took the shape of a dragon and flew around. It could also be a metaphor for trying to start it's own false religion.
Why are gods so often associated with dragons? Jaws of Hakkon, Elven Gods, Archdemons, The Neromian Heroes, even the Andrastian Cult. I want to say when you are running around in Inquisition there's a stone tablet of Andraste holding up the skull of a dragon as well.
Also; don't you get knowledge from the Well of Sorrows? Doesn't something similar happen if you drink the "blood of a wyvern" and get the memories of the village and it's ancestors get pumped into you? Does that mean any warden who does this is "bound" to Andraste? What does that mean about The Grey Wardens and the Arch Demon.....could they actually be serving their will by killing them?
Also; if the darkspawn are just some kind of ersatz-zombie dwarves from a Titan......what does it mean that it goes straight for the Archdemons? What's their connection to The Titans?
The Maker:
Possible also the "Sun" from the Elven myths.
Though much of what we think of as being central to the Maker may actually be a Titan/the land pulling on the power of the maker back in the day to create things.
The Void:
Apparently it comes from within?
There's the dark/shadow lady/shadowy goddess (any connection to Andruil?), way back in the past that gets beaten by an avalanche or something.
The Darkspawn and the Arch Demons obviously.
That mosaic with the "Sun" beating down on some elves with a hole in the center of their bodies. Is the void/the blight central to beating/containing The Maker/The Sun and not just a trap to punish the unwary? Thinking about it; I think we also don't see the "center" of the sun but just the outside of it being drawn.
When creatures touch the fade and something larger they go "white". Creatures touched by the blight go "black". Any connection to the "white" and "black" Divines?
The forgotten ones are wicked things that dwell in the abyss......darkspawn? Something else altogether?
Cory:
Considering that he gets immortality from travelling into the fade and ends up with "The Orb/power of The Maker/Gods". He does get what he wanted doesn't he? The power of the gods.
Why did the gods stop speaking to him? Did they ever? Even he seems to question it. Was it something by fade spirits/demons? Some kind of "long con" by the elvhen gods to work on getting free and once they got what they wanted out of him and the tevinters, they stopped pretending to be "Gods" for him?
Non-specific stuff:
Why are their so many similarities? Cory and Solas, The Elven Gods, The Maker, The Avaar and probably others I'm not even thinking of.
Gods, people and spirits seem to be doing the same or similar things over and over. Is Thedas as a whole bound to something? Is there some kind of connection to "the song" of archdemons and titans or even Justice talking about the fade?
Part of the problem with saying; because something is similar between the myth's they represent the same being, but it could be the gods are for some reason like the mortals being pulled into some kind of rhythm?
Or is this simply an example of how limited/simplistic "The Spirits" really are? How little they can change their behaviors and characteristics even when called into different people, mythologies and times?
And of course......Time Travel to make it all even more confusing. Why couldn't Alexus travel beyond when the Inquisitor got the mark? Is Fade energy something capable of stopping "Chronal Magic"?
Considering the nature of what Solas wants to do; is it possible there is "no pre-Inquisitor got the mark" time? That the DAI game is actually set in some kind of splinter/alternate time line that starts there in Solas's attempt to remake his old world? The reason Alexus can't go any further is because there is no "further" to go?
And of course Solas himself pointing out; myth's were made by desperate people and giving him more credit than he is due. Even when history and myths are 90% accurate, it's reasonable to assume we never really get the whole picture even at it's best. Everything is still murky.
And it's possible all these things are similar because the people of Thedas on some level "want " them to be or are themselves fairly similar?
Solas is a betrayer with wolves, maferath is a betrayer and has been at least depicted with two chained wolves before.
When Flemeth gets her soul stolen and she goes "black".....is that in some way connected to the blight and the darkspawn? Is the blight what happens when your soul gets stolen and when it occurs with a god-like entity such as a Titan it happens on a more real/supernatural level than just a basic color change and death for spirits and mortals?
Originally the game was going to be based around a sword that could kill the arch demon, there's also the repeated image of Mythal with a big ol' sword in her back and that star sword that gets stolen by the assassins, Vigilance a sword forged from the bones of ancient dragons?
You would think someone would have crafted a "Vigilance" form the bones of an archdemon by now, armor too.....especially when originally the wardens had to kill them multiple times.
Also as easy as it is to suck up "OG" souls, by humans with the dark ritual and Solas and Flemeth, it seems like it wouldn't take "that" much work to make something that could suck up the archdemon soul and use it as a weapon or power something up.
Are Arcane Warriors and Reavers just two sides of the same coin?
Whats with all the two/thread headed snake imagery? Also the "Snake-Kings" that live under the earth get referenced with granite pillars and in the Veilfire Runes codex, there are references to them "uncoiling and recoiling like serpents" and the pillars of the earth. Why does the Tevinter Banner have a dragon fighting a serpent? The ancient statues in t he hissing wastes with what look like Serpents around The Venatori? Maferath with a white serpent coiled around him in one of the pictures? When they trap Andruil, Mythal takes the from of a monstrous serpent. The Dwarves account of fighting people who look like men but with scales? The Draconis constellation? Is there another faction we haven't even been introduced to yet?
Possibly earlier race of people who went Reaver? Cassandra claims her family had people who became reavers and got scales etc......on that note, why aren't the Cultists of Andraste weirder looking after centuries(millenia?) of drinking up all the dragon's blood they can get?
Are there moon men? I mean, we already met a star child so it's possible.
How do Insects figure into this? Hive minds, The Mother's Children, the avaar's helmets, horns but if you think about it, kind of also look like "antenna" from a moth or something.
