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Post by luzarius on Apr 2, 2017 1:19:42 GMT
Modern liberals ruined Asari lore with gender pronoun politics (video)
Samara specifically says Asari don't have males.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Apr 2, 2017 1:22:52 GMT
Hey Lulzarius
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Post by colfoley on Apr 2, 2017 1:25:07 GMT
This really the more accurate way to look at it. Just another perspective on the same phenomenon.
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Post by Madflavor on Apr 2, 2017 1:25:26 GMT
This isn't the first time Andromeda's writers have ignored or overlooked established lore from the previous games. Peebee's eyebrows, tons of female Krogan going to Andromeda (which shouldn't fucking happen at all), and then there's this.
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Post by Nightman on Apr 2, 2017 1:27:04 GMT
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 2, 2017 1:31:34 GMT
I agree but it's likely just one writer with an agenda, like the Krem Qunari business.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 2, 2017 1:32:28 GMT
If you think thats bad. Wait till you hear someone tell you about some of the things you remember doing as shepard as if it didnt even happen.
I said at the closing diwn if the BSN it looked like they were prepping to annihilate everything that came before andromeda. I was only half right.
Seems like theyre trying to rewrite sections of the OT.
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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 2, 2017 1:33:02 GMT
Politics + Gaming =
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 2, 2017 1:36:05 GMT
Well, good to know it didn't start with Andromeda. To be fair, the original pitch for the Asari is kind of cringeworthy though. Drew and the art leads of ME1 wanted them to be "any nerd's dream come true" because they're a people of hot goddesslike babes basically.
I like my headcanon anyway, which is that human and alien gendered culture inspired Asari to think about these things.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 2, 2017 1:36:58 GMT
If you think thats bad. Wait till you hear someone tell you about some of the things you remember doing as shepard as if it didnt even happen. I said at the closing diwn if the BSN it looked like they were prepping to annihilate everything that came before andromeda. I was only half right. Seems like theyre trying to rewrite sections of the OT. maybe it's due to them actively rewriting or misinterpreting history in the game universe. We know both the Council and Initiative loves to bury the truth.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 2, 2017 1:38:42 GMT
Politics + Gaming = Not gonna lie. I miss when things were just simple fun and I could enjoy myself without constantly having to consider whether I should be guilty for it, but nostalgia gonna nostalgia. As long as we don't end up with a culture in 10 years where a game that only features a leading cast of white characters is completely shameful I'm happy. That said, I think one day a dev should make the bold move to cast a gay protagonist by default and not as an option to pander and be inclusive. Actually, when BioWare says they're not trying to pander it's the most disingenuous thing ever. Their games are all player-empowering fantasies with roleplaying that grants you control over everything. It's the fucking purest form of pandering no matter whether there's political stuff involved or not.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 2, 2017 1:41:08 GMT
Politics + Gaming = Not gonna lie. I miss when things were just simple fun and I could enjoy myself without constantly having to consider whether I should be guilty for it, but nostalgia gonna nostalgia. As long as we don't end up with a culture in 10 years where a game that only features a leading cast of white characters is completely shameful I'm happy. That said, I think one day a dev should make the bold move to cast a gay protagonist by default and not as an option to pander and be inclusive. Actually, when BioWare says they're not trying to pander it's the most disingenuous thing ever. Their games are all player-empowering fantasies with roleplaying that grants you control over everything. It's the fucking purest form of pandering no matter whether there's political stuff involved or not. whilst true there does tend to be one exception... Hawk.
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Post by Warrior DM on Apr 2, 2017 1:42:17 GMT
Why bother inserting politics into the equation?
All this line of thought leads to is pure nonsense.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 2, 2017 1:47:19 GMT
If you think thats bad. Wait till you hear someone tell you about some of the things you remember doing as shepard as if it didnt even happen. I said at the closing diwn if the BSN it looked like they were prepping to annihilate everything that came before andromeda. I was only half right. Seems like theyre trying to rewrite sections of the OT. maybe it's due to them actively rewriting or misinterpreting history in the game universe. We know both the Council and Initiative loves to bury the truth. Spoilers The normandy ship story has been rewritten and so has Project Overlord. Theres more than just that.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Apr 2, 2017 1:49:22 GMT
The Asari are so boring in Andromeda, Cora is the most interesting one and she's human.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 2, 2017 1:53:55 GMT
Samara specifically says Asari don't have males. And yet Atheyta says she is Liara's father, which is a MALE term, in Mass Effect 3. So what is your point? Other than just obvious trolling?
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Post by NUM13ER on Apr 2, 2017 1:54:35 GMT
Some context might be nice OP. I didn't notice anything regarding Asari pronouns to be honest...
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Post by colfoley on Apr 2, 2017 1:55:21 GMT
The Asari are so boring in Andromeda, Cora is the most interesting one and she's human. that pretty much sums up the entire Asari for four games.
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Post by goishen on Apr 2, 2017 1:57:35 GMT
I always took the asari as bad ass females in space. The first to find the citadel, instrumental in setting up the council. All females did that.
Now BioWare is taking that away. Feminists should be pissed.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Apr 2, 2017 1:59:11 GMT
The Asari are so boring in Andromeda, Cora is the most interesting one and she's human. that pretty much sums up the entire Asari for four games. The Trilogy had Samara and Aria but I guess they have always been kinda dull tbf, Liara was only interesting in ME2 which she was barely in. Andromeda just made them even more boring.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 2, 2017 2:03:48 GMT
Tbf Andromeda's Asari are not boring because they're this that and the other kinds of socially progressive all of a sudden (talking about pronouns) it's just a testament to how boring the remaining writing staff at BioWare has become. They're complacent and unenthusiastic and they're hiring fangirls and indie-hipsters that talk about "roguelike lites". It doesn't help Mac Walters is the guy who had to pull it all together and he's without a doubt BioWare's MOST complacent idiot they have left. He literally does not care beyond his next paycheck to the point where he'll blatantly lie about the game being in "polish polish polish" mode and then saying animations are "at an all-time-high" when in fact it's the complete 100% opposite.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 2, 2017 2:03:57 GMT
Some context might be nice OP. I didn't notice anything regarding Asari pronouns to be honest... IIRC in the Nexus Culture Exchange Center the asari head has an exchange with the angara delegate and says that some asari choose female, male, and/or gender neutral pronouns that they preferred to be called by and the angara says that angrara have a similar ways. Basically it's a background dialogue that has ZERO effect since ALL the asari characters that Ryder and company meet in ME:A still use female pronouns. This thread is troll bait. I've reported it too the mods.
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Post by goishen on Apr 2, 2017 2:07:35 GMT
Some context might be nice OP. I didn't notice anything regarding Asari pronouns to be honest... IIRC in the Nexus Culture Exchange Center the asari head has an exchange with the angara delegate and says that some asari choose female, male, and gender pronouns that they preferred to be called by and the angara says that angrara have a similar ways. Basically it's a background dialogue that has ZERO effect since all asari in ME:A still use female pronouns. This thread is troll bait. I've reported it too the mods. Not troll bait :
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Post by suikoden on Apr 2, 2017 2:34:48 GMT
Why bother inserting politics into the equation? All this line of thought leads to is pure nonsense. TRIGGERED! (We'll bang, ok?)
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Post by smilesja on Apr 2, 2017 3:03:29 GMT
I always took the asari as bad ass females in space. The first to find the citadel, instrumental in setting up the council. All females did that. Now BioWare is taking that away. Feminists should be pissed. They're still badass.
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