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Post by ShadowAngel on Apr 4, 2017 15:06:50 GMT
what, in your opinion, is fitting? this is the real world, corporate America, multi million dollar projects, you 'fuck it up' you lose your job, that's pretty much how it works. i'm not saying the 'devs' specifically, hell, damn near all of them 'on the factory floor' don't actually get a say in the decisions that led to this point, but someone is, shit, even now with MP they are running limited time events while it's still in a f-ing state, someone is still making decisions like that, someone SHOULD be held accountable. Saying they "fucked it up" is again subjective. The countless number of bugs isn't subjective though, neither is the fact that devs have talked about the awful animations. I won't argue the story if people want to be subjective on that, but the game objectively has countless bugs, some game breaking, and they already had a day one patch to try and alleviate the issues. They full well knew it was a buggy mess just by that. The animations have also been all over the internet, and I myself don't care for them but it not going to pretend they aren't awful. If I wasn't so focused on audio dialogue and took the time to look at the characters I'd probably agree with making fun of the animations. This is a 2017 game after all, better tech and such you'd expect it to improve, not get worse. i agree with the other dude, if you screw up you're out. Bioware has already opened up positions for the Montreal team that made Andromeda, I wish they cleaned out the writing team instead of the lead designer roles however. Design wise the game isn't awful, it could be better though, my personal issue is the awful narrative and the countless bugs I can find every 5 minutes. What I don't understand is how I can enjoy the characters but not the story itself.
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Post by ShiftyCow on Apr 4, 2017 15:09:14 GMT
They will announce that they have a huge surprise in store for us that they can't wait to formally announce, but because they are so passionate, they are announcing to you now an announcement that they can't wait to announce but just can't quite announce yet. Biower is Xhibit on crack. You won the internets today.
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Post by alihou on Apr 4, 2017 15:10:12 GMT
... Here are some positive bullets: *The improvement in side quests over Inquisition hasn't been praised enough. The side quests in Andromeda are, indeed, far more varied and engaging. They are hampered somewhat by the overall flaw that NPCs have limited, cyclical animations (they just stay in one spot and don't move around, and when they talk, their gestures are noticeably repetitive). If the NPCs had more dynamic and deceptively varied animation routines (like in the Witcher 3, or in Dishonored, NPCs of course have repetitive routines but they move from spot to spot, interact with objects here and there, and the cycle is long enough so it gives you the illusion that they have an independent trajectory in the world).... if that one element had been implemented better, I believe the side quests would've been just as good as the Witcher 3 monster-slaying side quests. And I stand by that. *I'm pretty much the only one who did not tire of the planet-traveling screens. They were just plain awesome. Even though they were dimmed somewhat by the fact I noticed the planet art was recycled and not as varied as the previous trilogy, where every single planet looked different (and, also matched the planet descriptions. For instance, a lush garden world would have green continents and blue seas, a hot world would have volcanic plates and lava flows, an ice planet would be all ice, and then within those categories, each world would also look different). But, that said, I liked the zooming and traveling, no matter how many times it was done. It was an integral part of the experience, for me. I noticed the side-content is improved, more complex, more layered. Nothing (yet) at 'Bloody Baron' level, but that's a high bar. And I love the pretty planet transitions, I'd be pissed if that got nerfed. Everything some impatient people want removing will upset other people who want it to stay... I feel like Bioware is fully capable of reaching that bar and surpassing it. This is why I've been so disappointed lately. It seems like they're doing just enough to get by. Bioware are no longer innovators, they seem to be playing catch up to other companies. I know they're better than that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2017 15:17:29 GMT
I'm not entirely sure how much the dialogue changes between both Ryders. But the beginning line about coffee changed. Scott says: "Caffeine always did make me jumpy." But Sara said something like: "Can't explore a new galaxy without my coffee." So it makes me wonder how else the game changes. Yeah and that end mission was really well done. I loved the Archon's face animations. They looked really good in those scenes! While I doubt game changes a lot in terms of story and events, there are some distinctive line changes between Sara and Scott. For example after getting news about father in Sam node: Sara Left choice: a semihysterical line about "oh noes father is dead!" which feels totally out of context in terms of voice acting, and even more after cora starts talking about Ryder sr. could being distant. Sara Right choice: We... we weren't really close... Voice acting fits in great, as well as following dialogue about Ryder sr. being distant at times. Scott left choice: talking about dad dying a hero, making ultimate sacrifice. tone fits very well in, as well as follow up dialogue. Scott right choice: Saying in completely emotionless manner "we were not close" whcih feels so off, as well as follow up dialogue. So that and many other dialogues led me to a following conclusion that Sara was a more distant and more disillusioned by Ryder family, as well as being more cool and logical one with passion for science, while Scott was more of a hothead, and while maybe not very close to his father either, he had sense of respect and understanding towards him in a certain way. After playing around 15 hours as Scott and almost 30 as Sara, I got only more reinforced in that opinion. Often it is clearly visible by the quality of lines which responses were originally written for which character story, while the rest of options were probably recorded separately without story context. Thats why I almost wish there was some story mode where only original quality dialogues would be automatically chosen for each character,because considering that there is no real RPing in Andromeda anyway, there is not much justification to keep subpar quality dialogue lines in exchange for a very unbelievable illusion of choice. Thanks for letting us know. I didn't think the story would change significantly, but I'm happy to hear that dialogue is altered to an extent. As for Scott & Sara's feelings (acting) toward Alec: maybe Scott admired his father, despite not being close with him. Whereas Sara was closer to her mother. Seeings how she is interested science like her mother was.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 15:19:41 GMT
When you get a monster slaying contract in Witcher 3, the monster is usually nearby, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for the village where you got the contract - it would be someone else's problem. ME:A side quests often make you travel all over the map, which does make sense given that one game is set on a medieval technology level and the other in the future, but it also means that you spend a lot of time traveling long distances across the landscape, back and forth, unless you do what I came to do in ME:A - instead of doing one quest after the other, I just checked the map for the nearest next quest objective and made that my active one. They certainly upped the quality of the side quests, and some decisions gave me the Witcher-style pause to think before I chose. Isn't the italed what a sane Ryder would do?
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Post by Gileadan on Apr 4, 2017 15:36:42 GMT
When you get a monster slaying contract in Witcher 3, the monster is usually nearby, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for the village where you got the contract - it would be someone else's problem. ME:A side quests often make you travel all over the map, which does make sense given that one game is set on a medieval technology level and the other in the future, but it also means that you spend a lot of time traveling long distances across the landscape, back and forth, unless you do what I came to do in ME:A - instead of doing one quest after the other, I just checked the map for the nearest next quest objective and made that my active one. They certainly upped the quality of the side quests, and some decisions gave me the Witcher-style pause to think before I chose. Isn't the italed what a sane Ryder would do? Yes, clearly, unless there are forward stations all over the place already. Would be nice if the UI supported that play style - by displaying inactive objectives, for example, and the distances to any points of interest so you can make an informed decision where to go next without clicking the map every time.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 4, 2017 15:36:44 GMT
Yeah you don't care so you took the time to come to a forum dedicated to the game and make a thread telling the rest of us how you don't care. In fairness, the forum can cope with a variety of views. It's part of our unique charm...
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Post by Bann Duncan on Apr 4, 2017 15:38:27 GMT
Just going to announce that I'm a defender of Mac Walters (and no, I did not like ME3's ending). Doesn't change the fact that he's a link back to the original trilogy despite the game being handled by a different studio (something that almost made me, a BioWare super-fan, write it off.)
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Post by Ianamus on Apr 4, 2017 15:44:34 GMT
I don't think the news will be "Big". It'll probably just be an acknowledgement of the issues and a promise to fix the technical issues and some of the more serious animation bugs in upcoming patches.
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Post by alihou on Apr 4, 2017 15:48:47 GMT
I don't think the news will be "Big". It'll probably just be an acknowledgement of the issues and a promise to fix the technical issues and some of the more serious animation bugs in upcoming patches. There better be some sort of fix today, you don't make an announcement just to make an announcement. They are fully aware a lot of people are on edge with the current state of this game. Fix some of the bugs, they're not trying to do us a favor. This is bloody expected and should've been a non issue.
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Post by osito on Apr 4, 2017 15:50:47 GMT
I don't think the news will be "Big". It'll probably just be an acknowledgement of the issues and a promise to fix the technical issues and some of the more serious animation bugs in upcoming patches. There better be some sort of fix today, you don't make an announcement just to make an announcement. They are fully aware a lot of people are on edge with the current state of this game. Fix some of the bugs, they're not trying to do us a favor. This is bloody expected and should've been a non issue. True: given the choice between a patch and an announcement, most would take the former.
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Post by sil on Apr 4, 2017 15:54:03 GMT
I doubt it'll be an either/or situation, it'll be both most likely. It is whether it is MP or SP DLC that is on my mind.
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Post by alanc9 on Apr 4, 2017 15:54:16 GMT
I don't think the news will be "Big". It'll probably just be an acknowledgement of the issues and a promise to fix the technical issues and some of the more serious animation bugs in upcoming patches. There better be some sort of fix today, you don't make an announcement just to make an announcement. They are fully aware a lot of people are on edge with the current state of this game. Fix some of the bugs, they're not trying to do us a favor. This is bloody expected and should've been a non issue. Isn't announcing an announcement what they actually did?
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 4, 2017 15:54:36 GMT
I don't think the news will be "Big". It'll probably just be an acknowledgement of the issues and a promise to fix the technical issues and some of the more serious animation bugs in upcoming patches. There better be some sort of fix today, you don't make an announcement just to make an announcement. They are fully aware a lot of people are on edge with the current state of this game. Fix some of the bugs, they're not trying to do us a favor. This is bloody expected and should've been a non issue. Hehe, EA does that all the time. An announcement to announce a future announcement. They think it makes people think they care. Expecting an actual fix for anything today is setting yourself up for disappointment. All I really expect is a "we are listening to feedback from many sources" and maybe a quick "this is our upcoming DLC". Maybe see some MP fixes soon'ish. I dunno, guess my expectations just aren't very high at this point. I would be pleased to be proven wrong though.
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Post by amleth on Apr 4, 2017 15:56:12 GMT
I similarly don't give a crap about the announcement seeing as I've given up on bioware. Just wanted to say that your profile pic is amazing. Would've based by Ryder on Mika...if the game had allowed me to create a character that wasn't a total tool. Since you've given up you should move on from here and leave us in peace. No one's making you read this are they? So go have your peace.
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Post by robwolf666 on Apr 4, 2017 15:58:30 GMT
Has the announcement been, um, announced yet? (Wish it was easier to find this shite - link please if so).
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Post by mastert on Apr 4, 2017 16:00:11 GMT
Has the announcement been, um, announced yet? (Wish it was easier to find this shite - link please if so). The announcement is that server will be down for 2 days because of maintenence. But the good news is that you can still send strike teams and buy credits to purchase packs.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 4, 2017 16:01:14 GMT
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 4, 2017 16:04:41 GMT
Hmm well that is something at least. Good on them.
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Post by joglee on Apr 4, 2017 16:05:28 GMT
I may be wrog, but I bet there's more coming today.
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Post by robwolf666 on Apr 4, 2017 16:07:22 GMT
I take it that's only live for PC right now? XB1 definitely hasn't had an update today. It'll be interesting to see if it improves the animations.
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Post by joglee on Apr 4, 2017 16:08:53 GMT
I take it that's only live for PC right now? XB1 definitely hasn't had an update today. It'll be interesting to see if it improves the animations. Likely some, but not all. Animations take a long time to do...So don't get your hopes up that every single animation has been fixed.
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Post by roseofquartz on Apr 4, 2017 16:12:18 GMT
well it's not... terrible?
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Post by adrynbliss on Apr 4, 2017 16:14:59 GMT
'More options and variety in the character creator'
praise the maker!
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