Codex tracks flirtation even if you lock in another romance - let us cheat among out squadmates

In ME1 Liara and Ash confront you and force you to choose.

ME2 LI's go full stop until you break it off with your side action

Lotsb has Liara throwing out some really awesome shade at your new romance

ME3 the other person you dump tends to die.

I think that sums up what has happened in these situations in the past.

My first Ryder did some light flirting with Keri early on, she said didn't care about being on the side if Ryder got into a relationship. That Ryder also flirted with Peebee initially, turning down the casual option. Later I locked in Vetra, Peebee did her whole scene post loyalty mission, nothing seemed to conflict when I accepted. Later, Keri wants to meet for drinks after an interview, specifically mentioning she has someone watching out for "you-know-who" and there's no way to end the task without going back to her apartment. Now that Ryder is just hiding from her on the Tempest, should have known better than to flirt with an Asari.

Oh, wow. If you throw out too many flirts, you end up eventually being forced to cheat? That's icky. Good thing I either don't have my character flirt at all, or keep it restricted to a single target.

Yeah, that's why that task will forever remain unfinished on that file. I even tried to do the last interview without meeting her for drinks in hopes it would basically stand her up, but no such luck. Admittedly I was curious to see the romance conflicts they coded, otherwise I prefer to stay with focused flirting.


Yeah, that's why I was surprised to hear that there was dialogue saying otherwise. I'm just going to avoid flirting with multiples in the future, and especially Keri. There's a lot of people with Tempest romances that have had duplicates sitting in Ryder on movie night though, so romance conflicts seem buggy generally.

I enjoyed Keri's plotline, but I wonder if it's a bug that you can't back out of the relationship beyond a certain point.


You kill hundreds of people but cheating is the gross part?

I think some people frame it as polyamory rather than cheating, but either way it makes for more variety in the different playthroughs you do, so why not? It's not as though you're forced to use that option.

Read it? I played out her romance. I actually loved her character and the relationship progression and thought it was better paced than any of the major romances. I actually think it's too bad that she doesn't have more content.

And she has the "you know who" line even if you've only done the no-strings-attached non-romance fling with PeeBee, and that's not cheating since you're not actually in a relationship with PeeBee at that point.


There are a few options where you can kill people who aren't shooting at you (in Drack's loyalty mission, in PeeBee's, and more), so it's not always that clear cut. The game lets you be a bad person if you want to - you don't have to pick those choices, but that choice is precisely why they're included.

No one said they have to be. It's an option. You asked "why even allow cheating?" the answer is so some people can use it. No one is making your Ryder cheat just by having the option in the game. Frankly there are far fewer renegade-type choices in MEA than there were in the OT. It's much harder to make Ryder be as horrible a human being as Shepard could be.

I have no idea what " frack doing back things" means, but I'm assuming it's not good?

Sure, if someone was so inclined they could say she was being tongue-in-cheek, but yeah, from the context she clearly doesn't mind.

I'm not saying you should like her, I'm talking more from a gaming perspective than from a character or RP one. I thought the pacing of her relationship was better than the full romances because of the way the individual interactions were triggered. With the standard ones you could end up getting three conversations back-to-back and then nothing for most of the game, whereas Keri's was parcelled out in such a way that it played out after longer intervals.

Ugh forget I even said anything in the first part whatever.


Second part is that it's stupid that Ryder can't be religious but can be a cheater. Why is one okay with bioware but not the other?

Again that is from the Andromeda perspective as to what they learned there about the Jardaan and the Remnant. You can still agree with her and express your belief in something. You can't directly declare your religion, but why would you? You have a similar conversation with Ashley back in Mass Effect 1. You never state what religion you belong too, just that you believe in something more than what we can comprehend. I thought it was a nice call back to that scene. 

You do realize that the reason for this is because there is TONS of variation in terms of religion right? That's just for humans. Cheating is a lot easier to implement and not piss off everyone. If they put a Christian god in there everyone would be losing their shit about other forms of gods. It is a PR nightmare. I wouldn't even touch the subject at all if I was them. Specifically, if you choose not to enact Sarissa as the pathfinder you have a conversation with her replacement that asks if you believe in something higher. That's as close as you are getting. If you don't like it, tough luck. If you hate cheating, touch luck. This is bioware after all.

It does. Right now I have a casual fling going on with peebee and I'm romancing Jaal too. I wonder how things are going to go really. I've avoided adding any other romances in the mix specifically so I don't eff up Jaal's romance. I really wish they wouldn't make romance so "touchy" and/or locked. It cuts into my style. I like to flirt, I'm a natural flirt IRL. It is so against my nature to not flirt with everything that moves. You'd think characters like Jaal and Peebee would be completely okay with me having other partners. Honestly the only characters that even strike me as "wouldn't be up for it" would be cora and suvi.

Most people irl aren't up for multiple partners. Liam is a very sweet guy and he seems like he'd want to be exclusive. Vetra too because she loves with her whole heart