The lack of persuation/intimidation mechanic [no spoilers]

"The dialogue system is such an improvement over P/R" :dumb:

Theres been a couple of threads. The general theme I got from them seems to be Ryder is a bit soft and the game needed some ruthless dialogue options.

I agree with that. I miss Renegade-ish dialogue. Im happy the meter is gone but it restricts roleplay. Too neutral.

The series hasn't had a good mechanic since ME1. I'll take no system over ME2's mess, and ME3 was just a completeness check.

I liked having to earn different ways to deal with situations, at least the old Para/Gade system offered that. In the new system, there is just Ryder making a choice. I mean, I guess that's more realistic, but I miss the sense of earning things. Yeah it's a bit binary but I liked being able to skip some battles in the OT altogether that way, like when you can persuade Saren to kill himself at the end. It really worked when you were full Paragon/Renegade, less so in between. I'm not sure how to improve upon it going forward.

I'm okay with the current system, just not the dialogue tones. Needs aggressiveness. They should've gone with a system similar to DA2 where there were distinctive dialogue tones and the autodialogue changed depending on which personality type you shape Hawke into. Such a missed opportunity.
At the beginning I found Ryder to be super bland, but he grew on me and I hope to see him develop into a more diversive character. Paragon is fine and all, it's just boring as hell if you have to play him like that all the time.

Also, who can seriously have something against more choices on how to shape the protagonist? The more we have the better and more immersive it will be.

The fact they used a goddamn heart for those options wasn't enough for you to see that was the goodie-two-shoes option?

Ffs.

I don't mind this at all. It's becoming quite ridiculous to be able to play a goddamn psychopath and everybody still kissing your ass. You know, like Renegade Shepard. That was ridiculous.

lol

Sorry to be blunt, but no, you never managed to talk things down. The few times you did so it was because the game decided that things would have to be talked down. Similarly, when the game decides a fight needs to happen, it'll happen. Some fights are avoidable and you'll end up avoiding them, some fights aren't and you'll fight them

ME1 and 2 were linear in gameplay only, but as far as choices and dialogues went? Much above Andromeda, there it was actually possible to feel like we were actually doing something tight ro get to the desired outcome(greatest example of this? Saren. The outcome is the same, but the journey held meaning and made it feel like our interactions with him actually mattered[cuz they did]). Here it's, again, like FO4. Open-world, but overall linear as hell (again, apart from the big choices)



Did you only play Mass Effect 3? Aka, if you're smart pick the good choice, if you aren't pick the bad one? Because ME1 and 2 Renegade had one of the best portrayal i've even seen of pragmatic/hardass choices that make sense but aren't actually evil (apart from a few, like Morinth). Dragon Age Origins is another example, maybe even a better one since it wasn't bound by the dialogue wheel and therefor was much more expansive. Tyranny also comes to mind

Renegade isn't as psychotic as people say it is. Maybe a pure Renegade, but mix it with Paragon and you have a perfectly grey character.
I don't mind playing a goody-two-shoes at all, it was something I did in DA for a long time, but at least the choice to do something else was always there for people who wanted something to spice up their playthroughs. It doesn't even have to be "psycho" choices in MEA, just a little more aggressive and dominant.

Most people misunderstand what P/R system was all about. That's why so many people think decisions in the trilogy were right x wrong or good x evil. There were not. I can accept many other criticism about the system, but that one is just false.

But people making wrong assessments is one thing, the problem is that Bioware did as well. And so they didn't understand why they were taking P/R out and so they made dialogue in Andromeda boring and without personality. 

Indeed, the best quote so far I've seen in the game is: "join the club, screws up started 600 years ago". The motto of the AI if you ask me. 

Or having to play a goodie-two-shoes who resembles a doormat that everybody walks all over.  I swear I saw a "Safe Space" augmentation for his body armor.