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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Apr 7, 2017 16:19:39 GMT
Guess we found a temporary replacement for Tali's Sweat
What time is tea time in Wonderland Andromeda?
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Post by Otter on Apr 7, 2017 16:21:17 GMT
Guess we found a temporary replacement for Tali's Sweat What time is tea time in Wonderland Andromeda? Never. Because someone forgot to pack cream and biscuits.
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Post by correctamundo on Apr 7, 2017 16:32:59 GMT
Ha, the whole keeps getting deeper and deeper.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 7, 2017 17:10:17 GMT
Which indicates that the military clock is off by one. I'm not saying that they are losing minutes everyday. I'm simply trying to point this out. The standard clock doesn't suffer from this off by one error. It comes with a whole host of It's own problems. But to state that the military clock is not off by one is simply asinine. But you're wrong. The 24 hour clock is the same as the 12 X 2 clock. 0100 is 1 am 0200 is 2 am 0300 is 3 am . . . 1200 is 12 noon 1300 is 1 pm (12 noon plus 1 hour) and so on. How is this off by one? I'll try to put this as simply as I can. 2359 hours to 0000 hours is 1 minute. 0000 hours to 0100 hours is 1 hour 0100 hours to 1700 hours is 16 hours. 16 hours + 1 hour + 1 minute gives you 17 hours and 1 minute. 0000 hours to 0100 is 1 hour. 0100 hours to 1700 is 16 hours. 16+1=17. Military time starts at 0000. Umm. Isn't that exactly what I just said?
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Post by Zatche on Apr 7, 2017 17:11:41 GMT
Which indicates that the military clock is off by one. I'm not saying that they are losing minutes everyday. I'm simply trying to point this out. The standard clock doesn't suffer from this off by one error. It comes with a whole host of It's own problems. But to state that the military clock is not off by one is simply asinine. I'm sure if you took this up with the Military, they would realize the error and change it immediately, forcing Bioware to change the scene in their next patch.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 7, 2017 17:16:26 GMT
I'm asking you to get me there mathematically. I don't care about your exposition. If you are saying that 24:00 is a time, then 24:30 must be time just as 18:30 is a time. Which would invalidate his point altogether, seeing as you start counting at 1 and stop counting at 24. So, now genious, you gonna get me to 1900 from 23:59 mathematically or are you gonna completely fail at the argument? I don't care how smart you say that you are. Prove it. This has got to be one of the most dense arguments I've ever been in in my life. It's hard to know what to make of this. But getting to 1900 from 2359 is easy. Just subtract 4 hours and 59 minutes. What's your point? Someone with more knowledge -- is 2400 hours even a thing? My impression is that 2400 isn't a time, and you'd always use 0000. I've heard 2400 and 0000 used pretty interchangeably in my time in the service. TBH, I'm not even sure which one is "technically" correct. I DO know that 12:01 am would be 0001, but 12:00 midnight could be 0000 or 2400. Doesn't really matter, in any practical sense.
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Post by AnDromedary on Apr 7, 2017 19:25:58 GMT
Yea, it would be kinda cool to have a timer that lso takes into account how much you travel, etc. Then people could compare how much in-universe time they took to finish the story. But ... shouldn't Andromeda's new timeline begin when the Nexus arrived? I get that for Hyperion it's 0 Day, 0 Hour but technically the Milky Way races new era started about a year before. This is getting too confusing. I'm gonna stick with 2819.
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Post by goishen on Apr 7, 2017 19:42:07 GMT
Okay. I looked it up. I'm sorry. It is off by one. It is not when you think that there is an actual time there and that time moves forward, but instead if you think of it as an actual zero then it is off by one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_timeFrom the site :
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Post by flyingovertrout on Apr 7, 2017 19:48:46 GMT
Pushing 0 as a concept is just part of Bioware's Canadian social engineering SJW agenda.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Apr 7, 2017 19:49:02 GMT
This thread best represents the BSN and really all fandoms.
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Post by Otter on Apr 7, 2017 19:49:20 GMT
Okay. I looked it up. I'm sorry. It is off by one. It is not when you think that there is an actual time there and that time moves forward, but instead if you think of it as an actual zero then it is off by one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_timeFrom the site : So? Even if it were off, what the time is called is completely arbitrary anyway, so as long as everyone uses the same convention, why does it matter?
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Post by goishen on Apr 7, 2017 19:52:01 GMT
Okay. I looked it up. I'm sorry. It is off by one. It is not when you think that there is an actual time there and that time moves forward, but instead if you think of it as an actual zero then it is off by one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_timeFrom the site : So? Even if it were off, what the time is called is completely arbitrary anyway, so as long as everyone uses the same convention, why does it matter? I dunno. Some idiot started arguing with me that everything should start on day 0 because that's how the military does it.
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Post by Dean The Not-so Young on Apr 7, 2017 20:15:13 GMT
Okay. I looked it up. I'm sorry. It is off by one. It is not when you think that there is an actual time there and that time moves forward, but instead if you think of it as an actual zero then it is off by one. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_timeFrom the site : ...but that's not off by one. It's still 24 hours, which corresponds to the same minute on the 12-hour am/pm cycle. It just changes how you'd count the seconds on the last/first minute of the day at midnight, which is the same issue you have with a 12-hour clock rollover at 12 and 12.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 7, 2017 20:28:23 GMT
Maybe we'll see it in a post-ending DLC.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 7, 2017 20:28:32 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ almighty, this is absolutely ridiculous.
For fuck's sake, whether you call it 0001 to 2400 or 0000 to 2359, all times on the 24 hour clock correspond to the exact same fucking time on the 12 X 2 clock. 2359 is still 11:59 PM, 0030 is still 12:30 AM, 1300 is still 1:00 PM.
Absolutely nothing about that is "off by one" from the "standard" clock. Why is this such a fucking hard concept to understand?
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Post by Dean The Not-so Young on Apr 7, 2017 20:42:40 GMT
What the actual fuck are you talking about? 5 hours before midnight is 19:00.. seven o'clock not 5am, that's 5 hours AFTER midnight. This is either some Ken M level trolling or it's a miracle you somehow can muster the concentration needed to breathe... I'm asking you to get me there mathematically. I don't care about your exposition. If you are saying that 24:00 is a time, then 24:30 must be time just as 18:30 is a time. Which would invalidate his point altogether, seeing as you start counting at 1 and stop counting at 24. So, now genious, you gonna get me to 1900 from 23:59 mathematically or are you gonna completely fail at the argument? I don't care how smart you say that you are. Prove it. This has got to be one of the most dense arguments I've ever been in in my life. ...probably because you're either being silly, or poorly articulating whatever point you're trying to make? 2400 is a military time that people in the military will understand. So is 24:30, and 18:30, and other numbers when you have reason to not just automatically roll-over. 2400 is a roll-over point to 0000, and they can and often are used interchangeably depending on context. People will often use 2400 if it's an end-point for something, since that translates more conveniently when measuring against a start time, or 0000 if it's a start point for much the same reason. 0000 is dominant when marking a 'start', such as for a new day, but 2400, 2430, or even 7200 (or, more commonly, H+72) are used when a situation justifies tracking time without a rollover. That's pretty common with operations where you're tracking time from start to gauge progress. Heck, the military has use for negative time as well. H-72 is a valid military time for planning purposes and preparations, as it indicates 72 hours before an aribtrary start point that may-or-may-not be midnight. It works from the same base-60 minutes-to base-24-hours logic that base-60 minutes to base-12-hours does. When monitoring progress and planners factor in negative times, future times, and 0 time. When monitoring progress, they start tracking from 0 seconds, not 1 second, because there are functions that are worth monitoring that take less than a second to complete. As for the math you requested- 23:59 is 2359 is 23 (base 24 hours) and 59 (base 60) minutes. 60 (base 60) minutes = 1 (base 24) hour, so 23:59 = 23 + (59/60) 1900 is 19:00 is 19 (base 24 hours) and 0 (base 60) minutes. 60 (base 60) minutes = 1 (base 24) hour, so 1900 = 19 + (0/60), or 18 + (60/60), just to show conversion. The time from 1900 to 23:59 is the greater subtracted from the lesser, so- (23 + (59/60)) - (18 + (60/60)) = 23-18 + (59/60 - 60/60) = 5 + (-1/60) = 5 - 1/60 = 4 + 60/60 - 1/60 = 4 + 59/60 = 4:59. Or, simpler- (23 + 59/60) - 19 = 23 - 19 + 59/60 = 4 + 59/60 = 4:59. Ergo, the time from 1900 to 23:59 is 4:59, or 4 hours and 59 minutes. Mathematically.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 7, 2017 20:57:37 GMT
This reminds me of a Sesame Street episode where everyone takes Cookie Monster's cookies and he's sad until Guy Smiley tells him he may not have 6 or 3 or 2 cookies, but he does have zero cookies, and zero is a number of cookies you can have. Only on BSN is this possible...
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 7, 2017 20:57:48 GMT
"My father was a watch maker. He abandoned it when Einstein discovered time is relative."
Time to give it a rest.
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