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Post by duxcro on Apr 12, 2017 17:58:00 GMT
I don't know if it's based on real facts, but according to ingame codex, Andromeda galaxy is 2,5 million years away. That means light travels 2,5 million years from a star in Andromeda Galaxy to milky way galaxy. If you look up in the night sky and observe some star that is thousands of light years away from earth, you are seeing the light of that star that is thousands of years old. So in a way it's like looking in the past. For all we know that star already went nova. But it would take thousands of year for us to know that. When the light of explosion reaches us.
What bothers me is how hyperion crew talks about data on Andromeda galaxy being 600 years old. They talk like they had " real time" info on status of habitable worlds in Andromeda galaxy just before they left milky way. But in reality any information they could gather by observing Andromeda before leaving on their 600 year journey, would be 2,5 million years out of date.
Is there any kind of "logical" explanation on this?
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 18:03:19 GMT
If you talk to Suvi, you learn that the data from Andromeda is the result of the geth's repurposing of a mass relay to act as an FTL telescope.
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Post by armass81 on Apr 12, 2017 18:10:13 GMT
Yes geth magic telescopes, made from 3 mass relays used together, courtesy of Mac Walters.
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 12, 2017 18:10:18 GMT
Yup, FTL telescope for the space magic win
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 12, 2017 18:12:00 GMT
Yes geth magic telescopes, made from 3 mass relays used together, courtesy of Mac Walters. Honestly, the whole mass-free corridor idea does leave the door open for stuff like this, so I can dig it. |
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Post by duxcro on Apr 12, 2017 18:13:18 GMT
If you talk to Suvi, you learn that the data from Andromeda is the result of the geth's repurposing of a mass relay to act as an FTL telescope. Thanks.  |
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Post by sdzald on Apr 12, 2017 18:26:32 GMT
Yep FTL telescope, how a mass relay on our end can speed up light coming from a distant point is way beyond me, but for the story sake lets just accept it.
What puzzles me is why were the Geth even interested enough in Andromeda to make the effort to convert a Mass Relay?
Another question that bothers me is according to Angara legend the Scourge happened 1000+ years before the Initiative shows up, which messed up the entire Helios Clusters and planets. So why does the Geth FTL data, which would have seen the Cluster ~400 years after the Scourge ruined everything as still being pristine and Golden Worlds?
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Post by Rascoth on Apr 12, 2017 18:30:33 GMT
What puzzles me is why were the Geth even interested enough in Andromeda to make the effort to convert a Mass Relay? They weren't observing Andromeda, but dark space (clearly looking for the Reapers). It just happened to be capable of reaching Andromeda as well. |
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Post by sdzald on Apr 12, 2017 18:36:23 GMT
What puzzles me is why were the Geth even interested enough in Andromeda to make the effort to convert a Mass Relay? They weren't observing Andromeda, but dark space (clearly looking for the Reapers). It just happened to be capable of reaching Andromeda as well. Ok that makes sense, The Geth were looking for their God. That fits the story well. |
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Post by Cyonan on Apr 12, 2017 18:39:14 GMT
Another question that bothers me is according to Angara legend the Scourge happened 1000+ years before the Initiative shows up, which messed up the entire Helios Clusters and planets. So why does the Geth FTL data, which would have seen the Cluster ~400 years after the Scourge ruined everything as still being pristine and Golden Worlds? I'd say that the Angara legends have the dates wrong in that case. The first couple of missions confirms that the Remnant were around only about 400 years prior to the AI showing up. |
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 12, 2017 18:41:39 GMT
Another question that bothers me is according to Angara legend the Scourge happened 1000+ years before the Initiative shows up, which messed up the entire Helios Clusters and planets. So why does the Geth FTL data, which would have seen the Cluster ~400 years after the Scourge ruined everything as still being pristine and Golden Worlds? I'd say that the Angara legends have the dates wrong in that case. The first couple of missions confirms that the Remnant were around only about 400 years prior to the AI showing up. Could be part of the nature of the Angara and how they relate to the Remnant... |
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Post by Civ on Apr 12, 2017 18:43:53 GMT
Does make me wonder; how did it end up taking 600 years? Where did that arbitrary number come from  |
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Post by sdzald on Apr 12, 2017 18:50:25 GMT
Another question that bothers me is according to Angara legend the Scourge happened 1000+ years before the Initiative shows up, which messed up the entire Helios Clusters and planets. So why does the Geth FTL data, which would have seen the Cluster ~400 years after the Scourge ruined everything as still being pristine and Golden Worlds? I'd say that the Angara legends have the dates wrong in that case. The first couple of missions confirms that the Remnant were around only about 400 years prior to the AI showing up. Well then time lines are all screwed up because the Angara believe that the Scourge showed up after the Remnant and then came the Kett. The story seems to led us to believe that it is the Remnant that terformed a lot of the planets in the Helios Cluster. |
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 12, 2017 18:56:31 GMT
Yep FTL telescope, how a mass relay on our end can speed up light coming from a distant point is way beyond me, but for the story sake lets just accept it. What puzzles me is why were the Geth even interested enough in Andromeda to make the effort to convert a Mass Relay? Another question that bothers me is according to Angara legend the Scourge happened 1000+ years before the Initiative shows up, which messed up the entire Helios Clusters and planets. So why does the Geth FTL data, which would have seen the Cluster ~400 years after the Scourge ruined everything as still being pristine and Golden Worlds? I believe when they talk about the FTL telescope they say something like "it's not real time, but close enough." So the data received could still be a few centuries old. 1000 year old data vs 2.5 million years is basically real time in astronomical terms. |
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 12, 2017 18:59:37 GMT
FTL Telescopes yo
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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2017 19:01:39 GMT
If you talk to Suvi, you learn that the data from Andromeda is the result of the geth's repurposing of a mass relay to act as an FTL telescope. I still don't understand that part. I like to know how the geth were able to rebuild a mass relay and turned the approached corridor into an ftl sensor? Of course I would be curious how the Initiative obtained that information. I guess its space magic. I don't know here's the dialogue from Suvi |
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Post by fizzypop on Apr 12, 2017 19:01:44 GMT
I'd say that the Angara legends have the dates wrong in that case. The first couple of missions confirms that the Remnant were around only about 400 years prior to the AI showing up. Well then time lines are all screwed up because the Angara believe that the Scourge showed up after the Remnant and then came the Kett. The story seems to led us to believe that it is the Remnant that terformed a lot of the planets in the Helios Cluster. Yes I noticed this too. The timelines are very hinky because that would means angara would have to be a relatively new species, but we know that's not true. They were repurposing remnant tech during the height of their civilization. Which couldn't have been that long ago and yet very few of the angara seem to remember prior to the scourge or during the height of said civilization. Which also seems unlikely as their given lifespan is like 120ish years. |
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Post by Cyonan on Apr 12, 2017 19:04:30 GMT
I'd say that the Angara legends have the dates wrong in that case. The first couple of missions confirms that the Remnant were around only about 400 years prior to the AI showing up. Well then time lines are all screwed up because the Angara believe that the Scourge showed up after the Remnant and then came the Kett. The story seems to led us to believe that it is the Remnant that terformed a lot of the planets in the Helios Cluster. It's pretty common for legends to get a few details wrong, so it wouldn't be a stretch to say the Angara got the dates wrong. Of course there is the whole "it's not exactly real time" that was just noted, but the scans once we're actually standing on Habitat 7 in the tutorial mission say the buildings there are no more than 300-400 years old. SAM confirms this again in the vault on Eos. Though that still leaves an unanswered question in "Why bother teraforming when you've got plenty of suitable planets?". It's not outside the realm of possibility that many habitable planets would be in a cluster naturally, but the game tells us they were still trying to teraform it. I'm not sure if there is an actual reason, or they just didn't think it through entirely =P |
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 19:15:18 GMT
Is there any kind of "logical" explanation on this? Magical Geth Tech. Don't overthink it. :smh: |
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Post by adelthorne on Apr 12, 2017 19:18:26 GMT
Because the Geth are actually the Kett in disguise;)
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Post by traks on Apr 12, 2017 19:18:44 GMT
If you talk to Suvi, you learn that the data from Andromeda is the result of the geth's repurposing of a mass relay to act as an FTL telescope. I still don't understand that part. I like to know how the geth were able to rebuild a mass relay and turned the approached corridor into an ftl sensor? Of course I would be curious how the Initiative obtained that information. I guess its space magic. I don't know here's the dialogue from Suvi Shadow broker is always the right answer in the MEU when it comes to information.  |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2017 19:19:59 GMT
Yes geth magic telescopes, made from 3 mass relays used together, courtesy of Mac Walters. Honestly, the whole mass-free corridor idea does leave the door open for stuff like this, so I can dig it. Don't relays need pairs to open corridors? What did the corridor open up to, without another relay in Andromeda to link up with? |
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Post by Pyrceval78 on Apr 12, 2017 19:22:15 GMT
Honestly, the whole mass-free corridor idea does leave the door open for stuff like this, so I can dig it. Don't relays need pairs to open corridors? What did the corridor open up to, without another relay in Andromeda to link up with? Geth space magic |
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2017 19:27:06 GMT
Is there any kind of "logical" explanation on this? Magical Geth Tech. Don't overthink it. :smh: "Resources"  |
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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2017 19:30:47 GMT
Shadow broker is always the right answer in the MEU when it comes to information. What's the excuse for not knowing about the beacon on Thessia? |
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