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Post by killabkilledb on May 1, 2017 19:13:29 GMT
Meaning will it trigger elemental tech in the tech passive 6A?
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Post by nucleartech76 on May 1, 2017 19:18:37 GMT
I would think it would be since it's a debuff power but who knows with this game. It should be a status effect though.
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Post by niroz on May 1, 2017 19:26:54 GMT
I heard it doesn't - but I haven't tested this myself.
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Post by lexxxich on May 1, 2017 19:31:55 GMT
According to this build guide for Salarian Operator Invasion does not trigger Tech Sabotage or Elemental Tech. |
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Post by aakko on May 1, 2017 19:41:45 GMT
It doesn't which is really damn stupid.
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Post by deadwooded on May 1, 2017 22:22:32 GMT
It doesn't which is really damn stupid. Still one of the best powers in the game. Hate salarians |
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Post by donkeyjote on May 2, 2017 2:27:42 GMT
Meaning will it trigger elemental tech in the tech passive 6A? No it doesn't. I tested it. It's basically considered a pure debuff, with a short starting animation that looks like a status effect but isn't really one. If it was considered as a status effect, it would be overpowered honestly. Imagine the insane damage in single player after invasion -> charge -> cloak -> unloading your piranha, if on top of it you have elemental ammo and elemental tech. It's stupidly overpowered and broken as it is :-) |
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Post by Zyurat on May 2, 2017 3:37:32 GMT
Is invasion an awesome power and a must have for all teams? The answer is yes, a thousand times yes.
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Post by killabkilledb on May 2, 2017 5:46:20 GMT
Meaning will it trigger elemental tech in the tech passive 6A? No it doesn't. I tested it. It's basically considered a pure debuff, with a short starting animation that looks like a status effect but isn't really one. If it was considered as a status effect, it would be overpowered honestly. Imagine the insane damage in single player after invasion -> charge -> cloak -> unloading your piranha, if on top of it you have elemental ammo and elemental tech. It's stupidly overpowered and broken as it is :-) SO how do you trigger elemental tech? Will ammo alone do it or is overload the only way? I heard overload only last 2 seconds...I suppose with a sniper or hurricane/piranha that 2 seconds can't melt stuff but it seems like a lot of downtime with the coldown on overload. It seems overload to rank 4 would make it useful but then you'd have to drop two ranks in fitness... |
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Post by KLGChaos on May 2, 2017 10:07:04 GMT
Is invasion an awesome power and a must have for all teams? The answer is yes, a thousand times yes. Too bad only the Operator has it. Mines only rank 3, but level 19. He's one of the lower scoring characters I use, but it never bothers me. When I play him, my job is to keep everyone alive by debuffing enemy armor and damage while boosting everyone's shields too the moon. Just wish more people would actually stay near me to make use of my powers. Lol. I consider the Operator to be the unsung hero of the group. Supports everyone is a key component to helping everyone stay alive, but rarely gets the glory. Unlike the Asari Adept, who's the flashy glory hog.  |
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Post by Ares on May 2, 2017 11:55:32 GMT
Is invasion an awesome power and a must have for all teams? The answer is yes, a thousand times yes. Too bad only the Operator has it. Mines only rank 3, but level 19. He's one of the lower scoring characters I use, but it never bothers me. When I play him, my job is to keep everyone alive by debuffing enemy armor and damage while boosting everyone's shields too the moon. Just wish more people would actually stay near me to make use of my powers. Lol. I consider the Operator to be the unsung hero of the group. Supports everyone is a key component to helping everyone stay alive, but rarely gets the glory. Unlike the Asari Adept, who's the flashy glory hog. Spec invasion to explode when enemy health is under 15% (6a if I remember correctly) and it becomes the ultimate kill help power. Nothing better than seeing my name pop up in kill feed 3 times when I'm picking ammo and not shooting anything  |
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Post by Zyurat on May 2, 2017 12:12:27 GMT
Is invasion an awesome power and a must have for all teams? The answer is yes, a thousand times yes. Too bad only the Operator has it. Mines only rank 3, but level 19. He's one of the lower scoring characters I use, but it never bothers me. When I play him, my job is to keep everyone alive by debuffing enemy armor and damage while boosting everyone's shields too the moon. Just wish more people would actually stay near me to make use of my powers. Lol. I consider the Operator to be the unsung hero of the group. Supports everyone is a key component to helping everyone stay alive, but rarely gets the glory. Unlike the Asari Adept, who's the flashy glory hog. Spec it to affect up to 3 enemies (4b) and to explode when hp lower than 15. Now that's flashy. |
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Post by nucleartech76 on May 2, 2017 13:30:16 GMT
Is invasion an awesome power and a must have for all teams? The answer is yes, a thousand times yes. Too bad only the Operator has it. Mines only rank 3, but level 19. He's one of the lower scoring characters I use, but it never bothers me. When I play him, my job is to keep everyone alive by debuffing enemy armor and damage while boosting everyone's shields too the moon. Just wish more people would actually stay near me to make use of my powers. Lol. I consider the Operator to be the unsung hero of the group. Supports everyone is a key component to helping everyone stay alive, but rarely gets the glory. Unlike the Asari Adept, who's the flashy glory hog. You're doing it wrong if you're scoring low. He's the ultimate kill stealer. The salarian cock blocker BC he shuts epeen down. |
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Post by KLGChaos on May 2, 2017 13:59:53 GMT
Too bad only the Operator has it. Mines only rank 3, but level 19. He's one of the lower scoring characters I use, but it never bothers me. When I play him, my job is to keep everyone alive by debuffing enemy armor and damage while boosting everyone's shields too the moon. Just wish more people would actually stay near me to make use of my powers. Lol. I consider the Operator to be the unsung hero of the group. Supports everyone is a key component to helping everyone stay alive, but rarely gets the glory. Unlike the Asari Adept, who's the flashy glory hog. Spec it to affect up to 3 enemies (4b) and to explode when hp lower than 15. Now that's flashy. Yeah, I have is specced for recharge speed right now... 3 enemies would probably be better. I have it specced to explode, but I've only played on Silver so far and snipers still destroy enemies before invasion can blow up at that level. Going to try taking him into Gold today. |
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Post by N7Mith on May 2, 2017 14:32:13 GMT
No it doesn't. I tested it. It's basically considered a pure debuff, with a short starting animation that looks like a status effect but isn't really one. If it was considered as a status effect, it would be overpowered honestly. Imagine the insane damage in single player after invasion -> charge -> cloak -> unloading your piranha, if on top of it you have elemental ammo and elemental tech. It's stupidly overpowered and broken as it is :-) SO how do you trigger elemental tech? Will ammo alone do it or is overload the only way? I heard overload only last 2 seconds...I suppose with a sniper or hurricane/piranha that 2 seconds can't melt stuff but it seems like a lot of downtime with the coldown on overload. It seems overload to rank 4 would make it useful but then you'd have to drop two ranks in fitness... The debuff lasts for 8 seconds, regardless of the duration of the power. I always imagined ammo working too, and never felt that it didn't. Spec overload for max jumps and everyone affected has been debuffed. |
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Post by killabkilledb on May 2, 2017 21:54:04 GMT
SO how do you trigger elemental tech? Will ammo alone do it or is overload the only way? I heard overload only last 2 seconds...I suppose with a sniper or hurricane/piranha that 2 seconds can't melt stuff but it seems like a lot of downtime with the coldown on overload. It seems overload to rank 4 would make it useful but then you'd have to drop two ranks in fitness... The debuff lasts for 8 seconds, regardless of the duration of the power. I always imagined ammo working too, and never felt that it didn't. Spec overload for max jumps and everyone affected has been debuffed. So overload makes elemental tech work for 8 seconds? That is verified? Just want to make sure...I'd definitely run it if that were the case.. |
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Post by wingerjd on May 3, 2017 0:32:39 GMT
Does Invasion work on all enemies, or only enemies down to red health bars?
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Post by noisetank13 on May 3, 2017 1:45:14 GMT
Does Invasion work on all enemies, or only enemies down to red health bars? OApplies to any mob and spreads to any mob, it does not discriminate. |
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Post by killabkilledb on May 3, 2017 1:49:41 GMT
Does Invasion work on all enemies, or only enemies down to red health bars? All enemies and it jumps and does move to multiple. Not sure about the Ascendant orb. |
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Post by wingerjd on May 3, 2017 4:21:21 GMT
Thanks for the info. Have him at Rank 2, Level 16, but just up to Outbreak on Invasion. Looking forward to advancing him further.
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Post by SalMasRac on May 3, 2017 9:33:32 GMT
I don't bother with Rank 6 Invasion because at 15% HP you can just fire a bullet or two at that debuffed redshirt enemy, or some dot will kill it, or some vanq pug from the corner, TLDR that enemy is dead 0.003413 seconds later regardless. It's really not worth 6 Power Points imo especially when he has so many other Evos that are useful
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Post by KLGChaos on May 3, 2017 10:04:47 GMT
I don't bother with Rank 6 Invasion because at 15% HP you can just fire a bullet or two at that debuffed redshirt enemy, or some dot will kill it, or some vanq pug from the corner, TLDR that enemy is dead 0.003413 seconds later regardless. It's really not worth 6 Power Points imo especially when he has so many other Evos that are useful I will say it doesn't seem as useful as you'd think. Sure, it gives me some extra kills, but for the most part its exactly as you said. Most enemies are still killed by other effects before the ecplosions can. On heavier targets, like Berserkers or bosses, it doesn't deal enough damage to kill them. Invasion's biggest benefit is definitely the debuff, which is still extremely useful. But those 6 points could be better used in something like Overload paired with Tech Sabotage to debuff enemy damage. |
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