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Post by The Elder King on Dec 6, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
I'm not sure how I feel about the game seemingly being the entirety of northern Thedas. I mean, on the one hand: Cool! Obviously. I've always wanted to see the places they're showing. But on the other hand, how familiar will I get to be with Rivain if all I see of it is that ruined port city? We might get more than that, but we also might not. And if we do get more spots in one nation, will they have enough interesting content in them to give depth to the locale? DAI was very hit or miss in that regard. So, I'm ambivalent. It does look pretty, though. And we have at least one confirmed city zone, so yay! I doubt it'll be a functioning city, with NPCs with routines and such, but it will probably be a full zone like Denerim or one of the parts of Kirkwall, and that's more than fine for me. If any city is going to have multiple zones, or subzones, or a lot of complexity to it, I hope its Minrathous. This will be something to keep track of afterall with at least four nations being represented we have at least double the nations from Inquisition. So are these just going to be four giant maps for each nation? Are we going to have double the maps from Inquisitition's number in twenty? We'll just have to see but its going to be interesting to see just how much of Northern Thedas they actually show off. Yeah, no more trend chasing for Bioware please. Its going to be something to monitor as always but the whole trend following also tends to be a bit overplayed. Of course I haven't played gears of war so can't say how much BioWare followed a trend for that with ME 2 and 3...but Inquisition really didn't copy Skyrim and Andromeda didn't really follow No Man's Sky. Some gameplay cues were obviously borrowed but not really direct copy. But the trouble is now that its out there that BioWare is looking at God of War for gameplay advice that any new gameplay change will be because of that no matter if that is a fair characterization or not. I'm not sure if I'd call it trend chasing, but ME2-ME3's cover system seems inspired to Gears' cover system...and many games with TPS mechanics did after Gears. Skyrim's success (alongside GTA V later on for the whole industry) was one of the reasons, I think, for Bioware and CDPR to approach an open world system for their games, even if different from Bethesda. Andromeda didn't follow NMS in the final product, but the original idea that was changed mid-production was about a procedural exploration game similar to NMS, although I don't think it was inspired by it. NSM had great hype before release, but had a disastrous launch. I don't think that taking inspiration from BG3 would be trend chasing, but more about a return to their roots, but I don't think it'd have affected Dreadwolf's development either way. If Dreadwolf is more similar to, let's say, DAO, it'd be due to a decision taken years ago, after they shifted to fully SP experience; and there aren't any indication of them doing that, at least in term of combat. I do think that not allowing us to directly control our companions, even in the case of a more action-based gameplay, is going to cause issues for Bioware, maybe more then they'd anticipate.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2023 12:45:17 GMT
Take this with a huge grain of salt, there's a supposed leaker in this discussion thread: www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/s/ojCfN5RNyFThe gist is: Dragon Age Andromeda - characters are snarky and quibby as hell, as if everyone is sarcastic Hawke or Varric. Marvel humor (which already ruined Andromeda for me) basically. - very different from previous games, going to be very devisive, especially the combat which is described as Andromeda melee without guns If that is even remotely true this game will be exactly the kind of trainwreck I feared. Old school BioWare/DAO fans are not the target audience. If this game has writing even remotely like Andromeda, I won't even be getting this game on a discount. Sorry I'm ruining the mood again with my negativity. Thought it was worth sharing the link though. I'd say that, even if true, extrapolating how the full game is going to be in terms of tone from a simple test is too soon. The 'Marvel humor' is something present in every Bioware game to a various degree, and the balance between that tone and lines with more serious one isn't east to ascertain in 2-3 hours. Balance is going to important either way. Combat wise, I do think that it's highly likely the combat will be action oriented (if this leak is true, it's very, very unlikely things would change from that point to release, even if it seems they went from 2 companions to 3, from the first leak to this one), although what kind of combat is quite confusing at this point, as this leaker gave different inputs by mentioning GOW, TW3, and by what you said, MEA without guns. The positive thing about yesterday is that we should know soon enough how the game will be, either way.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2023 0:21:37 GMT
Pretty sure those emojis were leaked back in February as well. Is this the same guy posting the leaks? Didn't the previous leak mention you can bring out two companions with you?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2023 0:09:23 GMT
If the redditor is to be believed, it seems the game looks really good, while hairs still being the weakest part of the graphic department. He also mentioned that the gameplay resembles GOW more then DAI, not that it's necessarily close to GOW. I'd like it to be true because, at least, the party is still composed by 4 characters and you can still pause the game during combat. In regards of the Marvel-like dialogues, the same could be said for other Bioware games. The balance between funny and more serious dialogues can't be extrapolated from a test of 3 hours, in any case. Actually, someone posted it is was more akin to The Witcher 3, and the OP also said it was quite similar. www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/s/mgjtDLv1jFThey also confirmed that you can pause combat. No combat tactics though www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/s/haPDemzGnWI see. It makes more sense to be similar to TW3 compared to GOW, with hopefully a better gameplay then the former. Combat tactics could be something they'll implement later compared to the test, even though I wouldn't personally bet on them being present.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 23:17:14 GMT
Ugh, hoping the leak is fake, not having playable companions really is something that would drag down my view of the game hard. Also, more GoW than DA? Few active skills? Look, I get that they have to try new things, but that's a direction I don't enjoy playing so at best I'd play it on the lowest difficulty once and never touch it again. I'd say it's more about sticking in a direction, gameplay wise, and not try to appeal both crowds with a half-assed combat system. I do think not having playable companions would be a big mistake. Given that, if the leak is true, you still have 3 companions with you and you can pause the game during combat, it should be workable, in theory, to shift between party members, unless the latter are just bots with no actual relevance to combat. FF XVI suffered greatly (in my opinion) for it. Even a middle ground like the ME trilogy isn't personally something I'd want for DA.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 23:04:26 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemikeHey! I know those places! [from the video] (yeah, im playing Dreadwolf a LOT lately) Unless he posted something else, I'm not sure how it was too spoilery. It's safe to assume the game is playable by members of other devs in Edmonton by now, and it was obvious the locations in the teaser would be explorable.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 22:45:17 GMT
As I posted above the 'Marvel dialogue' phenmnon is way too overplayed. Sure it exists because it does happen and they do like cracking their jokes. But cracking jokes and being sarcastic does not have to ruin tense moments and indeed can be a means of letting tension go. Afterall look at Andromeda and DA 2, games with loads of serious momenets but Ryder/ Hawke could be cackling madmen. Look at Civil War, Winter Soldier, Endgame, Infinity War, etc...hell look at Guarians of the Galaxy. Humorous yes. But serious moments intercutting. Based on what the redditor said, it seems every character in the test version he played was snarky/sarcastic, even npcs. Which doesn't necessarily mean the whole game will be like that, and it should be also noted that most of the MC's lines weren't present, so it's also possible, based of how old the test version is, that dialogues could've been changed slightly.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 22:42:39 GMT
Got a big surprise when I woke up this morning and saw a YouTube notification from the dragon age account - I really wasn't expecting a teaser! I actually gasped when we saw footage of Rivain, it's the country I've most wanted to see. I got temporarily WAY too excited cause I forgot that summer isn't at the end and begining of the year in the northern hemisphere and so for a moment thought there was a chance of the reveal being next month, this is what happens when I haven't had my morning tea yet With the Rivain line being "glory to the risen gods, they come to deliver this world" and the villainous voice over tevinter taking about reigning over the whole world I wonder if that's the voice of an Old God or Evanuris that has risen in Tevinter? I thought something like that, too. The combination of that voice and the 'risen gods' gave me that vibe.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 22:40:03 GMT
If the redditor is to be believed, it seems the game looks really good, while hairs still being the weakest part of the graphic department. He also mentioned that the gameplay resembles GOW more then DAI, not that it's necessarily close to GOW. I'd like it to be true because, at least, the party is still composed by 4 characters and you can still pause the game during combat. In regards of the Marvel-like dialogues, the same could be said for other Bioware games. The balance between funny and more serious dialogues can't be extrapolated from a test of 3 hours, in any case. I don't expect Bioware hairs to really measure up until ME5. To me, Dreadwolf is the catchup game above all. Catchup for Dragon Age and where they'd ideally like to be with series progress (Thedas' story). Catchup for studio progress after Anthem. Catchup for audience awareness of Bioware even still making things. Catchup to the industry for large SP campaign design. I don't expect huge innovations nor lots of new miracles out of Frostbite. But I sure as hell hope the review average is 8+ out of 10, and I'd love if the only things most reviewers keep from giving it a 10 is that its a big Learning Process game for Bioware to show they still got it... but only 'it'. Tangent, but this includes hairs. Better than all previous games, but only better. No graphical showcase of how much better hairs look and move than the rest of the industry. Functional for today's RPGs. I don't expect anything groundbreaking, but I do hope they did a better job comparatively to what they did in DAI. And at least deliver on the hairstyles. The redditor used some emoji to hint at the companions he had in the team, and I'd say one of them could indicate a female dwarf.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 22:24:45 GMT
If the redditor is to be believed, it seems the game looks really good, while hairs still being the weakest part of the graphic department. He also mentioned that the gameplay resembles GOW more then DAI, not that it's necessarily close to GOW.
I'd like it to be true because, at least, the party is still composed by 4 characters and you can still pause the game during combat.
In regards of the Marvel-like dialogues, the same could be said for other Bioware games. The balance between funny and more serious dialogues can't be extrapolated from a test of 3 hours, in any case.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 21:19:43 GMT
Speaking of Minrathous, I'm surprised we didn't see it. Well, the closing shot was hovering over roughly where Tevinter is on the map. Maybe they were teasing Tevinter as an even more prominent location? This teaser seemed to be focusing on the breadth of locations we’ll be visiting above all. They also specifically mentioned showing Minrathous in Dreadowolf, in today's blog, so I think they're just waiting for the full reveal to show the city.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 21:18:14 GMT
My guess is that when they say “Summer”, they mean they’ll aim for Summer Games Fest in June. They might do their own showcase if they run into any road bumps that make them unable to show it at SGF. It depends on EA and their future plans for a return of a summer showcase. I'd say the reveal won't be limited, though, to either events; I think they're going to show much more compared to their previous reveals.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:47:58 GMT
It could be a hint for different background for the MC, but also to some of the main quests in the game. Especially if we have to recruit those factions. It's already known that the MC will have a Gray Warden companion. It would not be surprising to have a Crow and a Rivainian LoF as well. Those snippets didn't strike me as a reference to companions, personally, but it's possible that you're right.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:39:49 GMT
Hmm...RivainUpon eastern shores and sunkissed sands, the Lords of Fortune no longer hold dominion over the coasts of Rivain—not when dragons are growing bolder and laying waste to their ships. AntivaEver the pinnacle of mystery and intrigue, the Crows watch from the deep shadows of beautiful Antiva. Something, however, is amiss, and they are set on uncovering the source. AnderfelsTo the far west, three Grey Wardens patrol the Anderfels. Tremors have been creating disturbances of late. Their cause is unknown. Upon the distant horizon, a storm of ominous intent brews and darkens the skies. It could be a hint for different background for the MC, but also to some of the main quests in the game. Especially if we have to recruit those factions.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:28:15 GMT
Not a fan of them straight up making the Crows heroes. “The Crows fight for everyone.”? Oh yeah that must be why most people even from Antiva don’t like them. They were an assassin’s guild, not a heroic order. At least the ugly city in Antiva isn’t Antiva City. It's possible that the character saying those things believe that, and it's not necessarily a overall sentiment shared by the population. It seems there'll be at least two cities, given that Minrathous was specifically referenced in the blog.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:22:03 GMT
Best decision Bioware could make this year. Also with a full reveal in Summer 2024 aka E3 time (EA Play returning?) there is enough time. Sure the trailer is another meaningless landscapes trailer but i still thankful for it because we have a time window. I am not happy that Rivain is also a location in DAD jeez i fear for the worst. Again too big for its own sake and hollow. I really wish that DAD had a focus on Tevinter. By the way who is the last male voice? This isn´t Solas / Dreadwolf? I don´t think so. It´s Archon Radonis isn´t it? I do also fear that they might've included too many countries, but I guess the approach would be similar to DAI's world system, with hopefully improvements...and cities.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:18:11 GMT
That last voice wasn't Solas, was it? It would feel weird that he would offer a comfortable empire. Pax Solas? Not gruff enough to be a Qunari. A baddie from Tevinter, perhaps? Now the fellow talking about risen gods. That feels like someone under Solas's sway. So, Tevinter, Rivain, Antiva, and Weisshaupt. Pretty good tour of Northern Thedas. Is that Solas talking at the end? He sounds like he's completely off his rocker. It doesn't really seem like Solas, both voice-wise and personality-wise. I think that there's the possibility of a freed Evanuris/one of the remaining Old Gods, given also what the person during Rivain's part said about 'risen gods'.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:16:01 GMT
Short, but very neat. I didn’t think we’d get to see Rivain. The “Full Reveal Summer 2024” thing suggests we probably won’t get anything at the game awards to me. Trending for late 2024 release I guess? Early 2025 if they aren’t going for a short marketing cycle. To me it doesn't 100% prove nothing is happening TGA, in fact this video may be the whole 'teaser of a teaser/trailer' I mentioned back, with the full version at TGA. But it now should be very presumed that nothing will be shown. 'Full Reveal' can mean like 5-15+ minute long videos detailing systems, story, art, exploration, etc. So theoretically TGA can still show a trailer that doesn't get into a 'full' reveal of these things. I now absolutely don't expect a DA focus at TGA (no orchestra haha), but I'm still a little open to considering there's a more extended version of this video coming up. But my mode will be focused on other things now, and only pleasantly surprised to see DA. I guess this is possible, with maybe a tease about the protagonist, but I don't think it's that likely, I do think they'll go all out at the full reveal. On Twitter they dropped the trailer with the tagline "This is Thedas. Enjoy it while it lasts." That sounds...ominous. Solas' could very well lead to a new Thedas...and that's without considering the voice at the end of the teaser who could hint at another antagonist.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:12:54 GMT
The game seems to spawn in a lot of different countries (I guess in a similar way to Inquisition, only with more countries).
As I said in the twitter thread, I wouldn't expect anything at TGA given the full reveal being next year.
I'm curious about the voice at the end of the teaser, as it's definitely not Solas. It could be someone from Tevinter, although if combined with the voice over Rivain's part, I wonder if one of the Evanuris would break free in the early game.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 4, 2023 17:06:02 GMT
Well that drops the chance of TGA to near zero haha. So it looks like marketing really revs up mid 2024, with release either late 2024 or early 2025. Yeah, I don't see how they'd show something Thursday based on the full reveal being in Summer. Another teaser would be meaningless at this point. It's possible that they might do a really short marketing campaign from the full reveal to release, but I'd say a 2025 release is more likely.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 8, 2023 13:26:42 GMT
I don’t think they’ll be something important from ME (I think one insider mentioned in regards of the teaser of yesterday that the game isn’t close to release).
If DreadWolf is going to be released in 2024 (even more so for a Summer release), I don’t see how they can’t show a full trailer at TGA.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 9, 2023 6:18:41 GMT
The tease about FF turning to be a sponsor was likely a hint at the end of the SGF being the new trailer of Rebirth. I don’t have a great memory about those, but I heard people saying he did similar things in the past.
As always, the event has a big chunk of it that it’s just boring. And it felt worse once I realize the show wasn’t even 2 hours long.
Thankfully, in terms of games to wait for, I’m all packed until December, between XVI, BG3 and Spider-Man 2, plus a few games in the backlog. It’s going to be interesting, since Atlus spoiled their games for the Xbox Showcase, how apart FF VII Rebirth and P3Reload will be from each other. I might go to play the former first if they’re too close, given the story changes, which could be interesting and concerning at the same time.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 6, 2023 21:15:51 GMT
I reckon part of this is also just allocating a larger budget to Dragon Age and Mass Effect marketing and production. Very happening for BioWare lol I honestly think it's the only thing that is directed towards the development and marketing of those games, as it doesn't really seem that certain that the remaining devs from Austin would move to Bioware.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 6, 2023 21:14:22 GMT
From the article, other then possibly moving a few developers to the DA and ME team (which doesn't exactly seem a guarantee, based on the article), the other thing which might be relocated to those teams are 'resources'...which I guess it means funds?
I guess it could be seen in a positive light as another letter of intent from EA to Bioware, in following the single-player path, but it means little until they actually show the games and how good they are.
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Post by The Elder King on Jun 6, 2023 13:17:42 GMT
In that case, it’d definitely be best if they’ll wait for December. There’s no need for some vague teasers like that. The Fires Above trailer for DAI, while also vague, should be the least of what they should do in my opinion, next time they’ll show the game. Anything less is simply not worth the effort of going to an event.
All true. However, even a meaningless teaser, from a marketing / Bio viewpoint, provides assurance the studio is working on the game. Still, they will get a meh reaction from me.
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People already know that, though. Would it really be helpful for the general player base to get a teaser of 20 seconds of DreadWolf? I feel like it might have a negative effect, and not really a positive one, at this point. Unless they’d also announce a full reveal at a definitive date later in the year at the same time, I don’t really see the need to do that.
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